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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2018,15:31    Quote "Shit is a code and I like my fudge packed tight"  timmy horton This is the guy who's totally not homophobic, you faggot :-P

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2018,17:00    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 29 2018,12:02)   Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 29 2018,11:32)     Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,11:04) https://www.pbs.org/wgbh.......-vacuum And how does evolution by means of natural selection and drift account for any of this? with the discovery of this sucking whale Are you referring to Joke or the cetacean fossil?   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2018,17:15    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,14:29) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 28 2018,18:55) Maybe you should write them and tell them atmospheric CO2 can't trap heat unless all the molecules point the right way. That was hilarious.       Speaking of CO2, what would be the average temperature here if there wasn't any of it in the air?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,10:31    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 30 2018,03:42) Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 29 2018,19:45)   Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,14:27)   Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 29 2018,14:03) Two more gaps! If baleen whales evolved from toothed whales via toothless whales, why are there still monkeys? Because Darwin recanted on his deathbed, DUH. And, nobody else thought of it, even after research of DNA would have made it obvious even if nobody had figured it out before that. When I read origin of the species, the thing that really made it seem scary smart is that he figured that shit out before DNA was even discovered. It is still an untestable claim to say that whales evolved from something other than whales. Darwin had bears evolving into whales. How did that turn out? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,10:32    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,15:29) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 28 2018,18:55) Maybe you should write them and tell them atmospheric CO2 can't trap heat unless all the molecules point the right way. That was hilarious.  :D  :p  :) Except I never said it. Loser -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,10:33    Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 29 2018,17:15) Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,14:29) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 28 2018,18:55) Maybe you should write them and tell them atmospheric CO2 can't trap heat unless all the molecules point the right way. That was hilarious.  :D  :p  :) Speaking of CO2, what would be the average temperature here if there wasn't any of it in the air? No one would be here to care, dumbass. Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. And if there wasn't any atmosphere then the daytime temps would be similar to those on the Moon. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,10:34    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,15:31) Quote "Shit is a code and I like my fudge packed tight"  timmy horton This is the guy who's totally not homophobic, you faggot :-P So because timmy is an ignorant shit code moron who likes his fudge packed tight makes me a homophobe? Really? Clearly logic isn't your strong suit, stevie -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Cubist Posts: 558 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,12:26    Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,10:33) Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. Out of curiosity: What's the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere, Joe?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,13:49    Quote (Cubist @ Nov. 30 2018,12:26) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,10:33) Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. Out of curiosity: What's the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere, Joe? Well above 150ppm. And if gets down to 150, ie reaches 150, then plants will start dying. Are all evos clueless as to how to follow a discussion? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,14:14    Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,13:49) Quote (Cubist @ Nov. 30 2018,12:26) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,10:33) Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. Out of curiosity: What's the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere, Joe? Well above 150ppm. And if gets down to 150, ie reaches 150, then plants will start dying. Are all evos clueless as to how to follow a discussion? You claim to be an expert on CO2 and global warming but you don't know what the current CO2 levels are? As your boy-toy Gordon Mullings would say, that speaks volumes, and not in your favour.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,14:15    Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,09:33) Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 29 2018,17:15) Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,14:29)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 28 2018,18:55) Maybe you should write them and tell them atmospheric CO2 can't trap heat unless all the molecules point the right way. That was hilarious.  :D  :p  :) Speaking of CO2, what would be the average temperature here if there wasn't any of it in the air? No one would be here to care, dumbass. Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. And if there wasn't any atmosphere then the daytime temps would be similar to those on the Moon. That was a rhetorical question. Of course it would kill everything if that actually happened; what I was wondering was what is the contribution that the present level of CO2 makes to current temperature. But don't worry, I knew you wouldn't have an answer to that question.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,14:29    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 30 2018,14:14) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,13:49) Quote (Cubist @ Nov. 30 2018,12:26)   Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,10:33) Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. Out of curiosity: What's the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere, Joe? Well above 150ppm. And if gets down to 150, ie reaches 150, then plants will start dying. Are all evos clueless as to how to follow a discussion? You claim to be an expert on CO2 and global warming but you don't know what the current CO2 levels are? As your boy-toy Gordon Mullings would say, that speaks volumes, and not in your favour. Clearly you are just an asshole. I never made that claim and only a twisted and desperate imbecile would read what I posted and conclude that I don't know what the current ;levels of atmospheric CO2 is. Congratulations -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,15:02    Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,14:29) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 30 2018,14:14) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,13:49)   Quote (Cubist @ Nov. 30 2018,12:26)   Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,10:33) Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. Out of curiosity: What's the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere, Joe? Well above 150ppm. And if gets down to 150, ie reaches 150, then plants will start dying. Are all evos clueless as to how to follow a discussion? You claim to be an expert on CO2 and global warming but you don't know what the current CO2 levels are? As your boy-toy Gordon Mullings would say, that speaks volumes, and not in your favour. Clearly you are just an asshole. I never made that claim and only a twisted and desperate imbecile would read what I posted and conclude that I don't know what the current ;levels of atmospheric CO2 is. Congratulations then, what are they?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,15:07    Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 30 2018,14:15) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,09:33) Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 29 2018,17:15)   Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,14:29)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 28 2018,18:55) Maybe you should write them and tell them atmospheric CO2 can't trap heat unless all the molecules point the right way. That was hilarious.  :D  :p  :) Speaking of CO2, what would be the average temperature here if there wasn't any of it in the air? No one would be here to care, dumbass. Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. And if there wasn't any atmosphere then the daytime temps would be similar to those on the Moon. That was a rhetorical question. Of course it would kill everything if that actually happened; what I was wondering was what is the contribution that the present level of CO2 makes to current temperature. But don't worry, I knew you wouldn't have an answer to that question. Transmission spectra of the major atmospheric gases please scroll to page 5 It appears that only the CO2 emission of 4.3 um has any effect on the over all GHG emissions. There is a little addition around 15 but water vapor prevails. The point being is CO2 seems to be a very minor player. It's the humid air that takes longer to heat and cool. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,15:09    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 30 2018,15:02) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,14:29) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 30 2018,14:14)   Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,13:49)   Quote (Cubist @ Nov. 30 2018,12:26)     Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,10:33) Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. Out of curiosity: What's the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere, Joe? Well above 150ppm. And if gets down to 150, ie reaches 150, then plants will start dying. Are all evos clueless as to how to follow a discussion? You claim to be an expert on CO2 and global warming but you don't know what the current CO2 levels are? As your boy-toy Gordon Mullings would say, that speaks volumes, and not in your favour. Clearly you are just an asshole. I never made that claim and only a twisted and desperate imbecile would read what I posted and conclude that I don't know what the current ;levels of atmospheric CO2 is. Congratulations then, what are they? 406 parts per million as of October 2018 -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,16:01    Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,15:07) Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 30 2018,14:15) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,09:33)   Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 29 2018,17:15)   Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,14:29)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 28 2018,18:55) Maybe you should write them and tell them atmospheric CO2 can't trap heat unless all the molecules point the right way. That was hilarious.  :D  :p  :) Speaking of CO2, what would be the average temperature here if there wasn't any of it in the air? No one would be here to care, dumbass. Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. And if there wasn't any atmosphere then the daytime temps would be similar to those on the Moon. That was a rhetorical question. Of course it would kill everything if that actually happened; what I was wondering was what is the contribution that the present level of CO2 makes to current temperature. But don't worry, I knew you wouldn't have an answer to that question. Transmission spectra of the major atmospheric gases please scroll to page 5 It appears that only the CO2 emission of 4.3 um has any effect on the over all GHG emissions. There is a little addition around 15 but water vapor prevails. The point being is CO2 seems to be a very minor player. It's the humid air that takes longer to heat and cool. Why would their be more water vapour?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,16:45    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 30 2018,16:01) Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,15:07) Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 30 2018,14:15)   Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 30 2018,09:33)   Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 29 2018,17:15)     Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,14:29)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 28 2018,18:55) Maybe you should write them and tell them atmospheric CO2 can't trap heat unless all the molecules point the right way. That was hilarious.  :D  :p  :) Speaking of CO2, what would be the average temperature here if there wasn't any of it in the air? No one would be here to care, dumbass. Plants start dying when the CO2 level reaches 150PPM. And if there wasn't any atmosphere then the daytime temps would be similar to those on the Moon. That was a rhetorical question. Of course it would kill everything if that actually happened; what I was wondering was what is the contribution that the present level of CO2 makes to current temperature. But don't worry, I knew you wouldn't have an answer to that question. Transmission spectra of the major atmospheric gases please scroll to page 5 It appears that only the CO2 emission of 4.3 um has any effect on the over all GHG emissions. There is a little addition around 15 but water vapor prevails. The point being is CO2 seems to be a very minor player. It's the humid air that takes longer to heat and cool. Why would their be more water vapour? It's a combination of a watery planet and the hot air coming from fossils like you. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,10:43    Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 02 2018,07:31) Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 01 2018,17:35) Even though I'm banned, or blocked, or something, I still post things occasionally just to linger in limbo. Jack, I suspect your comments are going straight to trash. My IP is blocked from wayback but if I switch to VPN and try and post on my old account, I can log in, compose a comment and post it but it just disappears. No "your comment is awaiting moderation". Barry would appear to be using the "comment blacklist" filter, where a comment "contains any of these words in its content, name, URL, email, or IP address, it will be put in the trash". Alan, You are just an ignorant asshole who A) doesn't know what science is and B) cannot put forth a scientific alternative to Intelligent Design. Yes Intelligent Design is science as it, unlike your position, makes testable claims, which is a hallmark of science. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,11:10    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 02 2018,10:43) Alan, I'm just an ignorant asshole who A) doesn't know what science is and B) cannot defend Intelligent Design. Yes Intelligent Design is not science. You could always teach them JokeScience.   Ice isn't water wavelength = frequency Global warming can't be real otherwise it wouldn't get colder at night. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,11:23    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 02 2018,11:10) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 02 2018,10:43) Alan, I'm just an ignorant asshole who A) doesn't know what science is and B) cannot defend Intelligent Design. Yes Intelligent Design is not science. You could always teach them JokeScience.   :D Ice isn't water wavelength = frequency Global warming can't be real otherwise it wouldn't get colder at night. Yes, dipshit, ice is a solid and water is a liquid. Only moron would think that a solid is a liquid and here you are. Also frequency and wavelength are interchangeable. Again your ignorance, while amusing, is not an argument. And I never made the last claim. However YOU think that shit is a code. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,14:38    Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 02 2018,12:07) That is, banned. Thanks for the explanation, Alan. All in all, better for me to not be able to post, anyway. This is true as all you do is expose your anti-science agenda -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,15:21    Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 02 2018,14:49) Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 02 2018,07:07) That is, banned. Thanks for the explanation, Alan. All in all, better for me to not be able to post, anyway. My sympathy for a fellow SIWOTI sufferer! :) Alan, you and Jack are two of the people who are wrong. There's no one that you can correct because neither of you know anything. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,16:24    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 02 2018,15:21) Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 02 2018,14:49) Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 02 2018,07:07) That is, banned. Thanks for the explanation, Alan. All in all, better for me to not be able to post, anyway. My sympathy for a fellow SIWOTI sufferer! :) Alan, you and Jack are two of the people who are wrong. There's no one that you can correct because neither of you know anything. Hmm. Then why are you posting at UD as ET?  And not Joe, or Joe G, or Virgil Caine? Myself and Allan and Jack know why we are banned (disagreeing with Barry, Batshitcrazy77 or Mullings, and providing evidence to support our differences). What is your reason?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,16:59    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 02 2018,16:24) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 02 2018,15:21) Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 02 2018,14:49)   Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 02 2018,07:07) That is, banned. Thanks for the explanation, Alan. All in all, better for me to not be able to post, anyway. My sympathy for a fellow SIWOTI sufferer! :) Alan, you and Jack are two of the people who are wrong. There's no one that you can correct because neither of you know anything. Hmm. Then why are you posting at UD as ET?  And not Joe, or Joe G, or Virgil Caine? Myself and Allan and Jack know why we are banned (disagreeing with Barry, Batshitcrazy77 or Mullings, and providing evidence to support our differences). What is your reason? Acartia blowTARD must be retarded as its response doesn't have anything to do with what it was responding to. You three are banned from UD because you are all insipid trolls, cowards and liars. I get banned from UD for exposing assholes like you. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,19:32    Over on TSZ Alan Fox sez that natural selection is "the only workable scientific explanation on the table". Unfortunately he doesn't offer any examples of that which pretty much shows he is talking out of his ass, again. No one has been able to work out natural selection producing ATP synthase, any bacterial flagellum- well any multi-protein complex. Heck they can't even do it for peppered moths and the beaks of finches. So what the fuck is Alan talking about? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,20:14    All over the Internet Joe sez that Intelligent Design is "the only workable scientific explanation on the table". Unfortunately he doesn't offer any examples of that which pretty much shows he is talking out of his ass, again. No one has been able to work out Intelligent Design producing ATP synthase, any bacterial flagellum- well any multi-protein complex. Heck they can't even do it for peppered moths and the beaks of finches. So what the fuck is Joe talking about? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,20:36    Quote (Texas Teach @ Dec. 02 2018,20:14) All over the Internet Joe sez that Intelligent Design is "the only workable scientific explanation on the table". Unfortunately he doesn't offer any examples of that which pretty much shows he is talking out of his ass, again. No one has been able to work out Intelligent Design producing ATP synthase, any bacterial flagellum- well any multi-protein complex. Heck they can't even do it for peppered moths and the beaks of finches. So what the fuck is Joe talking about? You are clearly an ignorant asshole because I have offered up many examples of ID being the only scientific explanation on the table. Yes, we have worked out that ATP synthase was intelligently designed. Yes we have worked out that all bacterial flagella have been intelligently designed. Genetic code? Yup, intelligently designed. So clearly HenryJ is just an ignorant asshole and proud of it. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,20:37    If you take a look at ATP synthase you can see it consists of two major subunits (F0 & F1) that are connected together by an external tether. This tether doesn't have anything to do with the functionality of either subunit but without it no ATP synthase. The problem for evolution by blind and mindless processes is exacerbated. Not only does it need to produce the two subunits but one has to be embedded in some membrane so that a gradient can be formed. And the other has to to be stably tethered to the membrane the proper distance away. The tether looks like the membrane subunit F0 somehow formed an external docking site the proper length with F1 forming an external mating site. Again these two different protein subunits, the tether and mate, have nothing to do with the function of the protein complexes they are attached to and tether together. And without them there is no way to get the two working subunits together to produce ATP. There you have it- A simple external tether that stably holds the major F1 subunit/ rotary motor the proper distance away from its F0 motor force is evidence for the Intelligent Design of ATP synthase. The two major subunits and how it works is just icing on the cake. Evidence that ATP synthase was Intelligently Designed -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,20:39    Whoops- I confused Texass Tech for HenryJ. But in my defense all evoTARDs appear to be the same -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,22:53    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 02 2018,19:32) Over on TSZ Alan Fox sez that natural selection is "the only workable scientific explanation on the table". Unfortunately he doesn't offer any examples of that which pretty much shows he is talking out of his ass, again. No one has been able to work out natural selection producing ATP synthase, any bacterial flagellum- well any multi-protein complex. Heck they can't even do it for peppered moths and the beaks of finches. So what the fuck is Alan talking about? You are clearly an ignorant asshole because we have offered up many examples of evolution being the only scientific explanation on the table. Yes, we have worked out that ATP synthase evolved. Yes we have worked out that all bacterial flagella have evolved.  Genetic code? Yup, evolved So clearly Joke Gallien is just an ignorant asshole and proud of it. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

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