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Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2007,14:53    Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 18 2007,14:41) Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 18 2007,13:33) Not sure if it means anything, but it looks to me like the extraneous question marks pop up when the text has two or more spaces in a row. If nothing else, it would tell you who learned to type on an honest-to-goodness typewriter. **raises hand** It wasn't even an electric typewriter. That's nothing! I had to write my class reports with a chisel on a big stone slab! Goddamn kids these days...   -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2007,17:33    It's not the typing that's at issue, since those question marks are showing up in posts that displayed without them before. Henry

steve_h Posts: 544 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2007,15:01    There seem to be question marks where UD has changed normal quotation marks to special left and right curly quotation marks (66 and 99) which have codes higher than 127. On page one of this thread, multiple spaces (in a code block) in my comments, have been replaced by a character which looks like an A with a caret (^) symbol over it. ? Testing some german chars: ?????? Those should have been aou and AOU with umlauts. So I guess anything outside of 0x01-0x7F is potentially a problem.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2007,16:31    Quote (steve_h @ Aug. 19 2007,15:01) There seem to be question marks where UD has changed normal quotation marks to special left and right curly quotation marks (66 and 99) which have codes higher than 127. On page one of this thread, multiple spaces (in a code block) in my comments, have been replaced by a character which looks like an A with a caret (^) symbol over it. ? Testing some german chars: ?????? Those should have been aou and AOU with umlauts. So I guess anything outside of 0x01-0x7F is potentially a problem. This is all you need to know about umlauts. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2007,18:15    I was sitting in a coffeeshop drinking a latte and reading the New Yorker (add 'Latte-sipping' to church burning, ebola tossing, etc) and for some reason the umlaut they put over the second 'o' in 'cooperate' really seemed obnoxious. Of course, excessive sensitivity to diacritical marks probably strikes some people as obnoxious too. I'm willing to forgive most abnormal language usages. Except those cretins who use ` as the left quote mark. That should be a hanging offense.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2007,20:03    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 19 2007,18:15) I was sitting in a coffeeshop drinking a latte and reading the New Yorker (add 'Latte-sipping' to church burning, ebola tossing, etc) and for some reason the umlaut they put over the second 'o' in 'cooperate' really seemed obnoxious. Of course, excessive sensitivity to diacritical marks probably strikes some people as obnoxious too. I'm willing to forgive most abnormal language usages. Except those cretins who use ` as the left quote mark. That should be a hanging offense. The only diacritic use in English that really annoys me is 'ro^le'. (I couldn't make the o-circumflex show up on the screen. ANOTHER layer of annoyance.) -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,02:51    "r?le"   γνοθι σεαυτον No French or Greek characters

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,19:31    Was PT's reply mechanism hung today? There was about 12 hours of no replies added. Or was it just me? (Not too likely since I checked on two different machines.) Henry

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,21:00    Quote (Alan Fox @ Aug. 20 2007,02:51) "r?le" ? γνοθι σεαυτον No French or Greek characters I dunno, Louis is kind of a Greek character. Ba-dum ching! Thank you, thank you. The ten o'clock show is totally different. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,21:30    I tell you, with my doctor, I don't get no respect.  I told him, "I've swallowed a bottle of sleeping pills."  He told me to have a few drinks and get some rest.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,21:34    I remember the time I was kidnapped and they sent back a piece of my finger to my father.  He said he wanted more proof.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,21:51    "I tell you, a hooker is more important than a doctor. I mean, four o'clock in the morning, drunk. I'd never walk up five flights of stairs to see a doctor." Whoa. Tough room. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,23:38    Quote Was PT's reply mechanism hung today? I just did a test comment that went through OK. Are you seeing an error message of any sort? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,11:33    I didn't try replying anywhere, it's just that no new replies got added between 6 or 7 in the morning through about 6 that afternoon. It's unusual for it to go that long between comments or replies. Henry

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,16:23    Maybe the lack of replies yesterday was just that nobody had much they wanted to say at the time? I dunno. It's just unusual for PT to be that slow.

Reed A. Cartwright Posts: 21 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2007,17:45    Quote (steve_h @ Aug. 19 2007,15:01) There seem to be question marks where UD has changed normal quotation marks to special left and right curly quotation marks (66 and 99) which have codes higher than 127. On page one of this thread, multiple spaces (in a code block) in my comments, have been replaced by a character which looks like an A with a caret (^) symbol over it. ? Testing some german chars: ?????? Those should have been aou and AOU with umlauts. So I guess anything outside of 0x01-0x7F is potentially a problem. I recompiled/upgraded the database software a week or so ago.  The new one has apparently compiled with different options, making causing some character issues with old text.  It's easy enough to fix once we determine which parts of the database are affected. I fixed PT a couple days ago. As far as getting PT 2.0 out, I'm still working on it, testing a lot of stuff out on my own machine.  I'm working with SixApart to make sure that our licensing of the blog software is in order before I upgrade.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2007,20:41    Ah, so shortly the only questionable characters here will be the ones posting in favor of ID and/or C! Henry

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 23 2007,12:45    Apropos of nothing at all, an image that says it all. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 27 2007,22:28    Some people who have been banned here say things elsewhere. But quoting banned people is essentially letting them post by proxy, and that is not acceptable. We don't have gratuitous banning here; people get banned for cause. As I come across instances, I will either delete comments if they are primarily about such a quote, or remove the quote(s), at my discretion. It's either that or the people doing the quoting will be losing posting privileges. Fair warning. Wesley -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2007,09:31    Test. Posting issues. Please delete if this goes through. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2007,09:35    Okay: whenever I try and edit a post, I get. "Sorry, you are not permitted to use this board You are currently logged in as Richardthughes" -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 30 2007,16:09    I still get this.. Quote Sorry, you are not permitted to use this board You are currently logged in as Richardthughes but others seem to be able to edit fine. Is it because I'm too sexy? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2007,18:11    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Aug. 23 2007,12:45) Apropos of nothing at all, an image that says it all. Damn!  How'd they get my picture? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2007,17:31    I'm no prude, but I've pretty much had it with the porn spammers. I've changed the default group on registration to be "Probationers", whose privileges do *NOT* include starting topics. So if you register and have made some on-topic posts, you can PM me about getting topic-creation privileges. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2007,18:09    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 05 2007,21:31) I'm no prude, but I've pretty much had it with the porn spammers. I've changed the default group on registration to be "Probationers", whose privileges do *NOT* include starting topics. So if you register and have made some on-topic posts, you can PM me about getting topic-creation privileges. Sounds fair to me. Oh noes, I may now look like a lickspittle to the likes of FtK!!!1!111!ONE Never mind, it's still a good idea. -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2007,19:39    It's sad, but it was annoying to wake up, delete porno threads, go to work, come home, delete porno threads, watch tv, delete porno threads...

Altabin Posts: 308 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,10:52    Away for a while - came back to find that AtBC is peppered with ?'s and Unicode cruft.  I see that this has been a problem for a while - any solutions? --------------

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:21    Not as yet. There is a place in the board options to set a default character set, but I haven't tried out anything. I don't know why this has suddenly become an issue here, after several years of no character set trouble at all. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:30    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 05 2007,23:31) I'm no prude, but I've pretty much had it with the porn spammers. I've changed the default group on registration to be "Probationers", whose privileges do *NOT* include starting topics. So if you register and have made some on-topic posts, you can PM me about getting topic-creation privileges. Oh noes! Now how am I get information about UD and lesbian teens at the same time? Oh well, I guess it's back to www.creationiststoogesand hotnakedflesh.com Louis P.S. Good call btw. The porn spammers were getting annoying. -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2007,11:32    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 18 2007,20:53) Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 18 2007,14:41)   Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 18 2007,13:33) Not sure if it means anything, but it looks to me like the extraneous question marks pop up when the text has two or more spaces in a row. If nothing else, it would tell you who learned to type on an honest-to-goodness typewriter. **raises hand** It wasn't even an electric typewriter. That's nothing! I had to write my class reports with a chisel on a big stone slab! Goddamn kids these days... ?:angry: Baaaah! You youngins with your new fangled technology. My message took so long to get here because I sent it to the pigeon loft using smoke signals and they relayed it using drums. Louis Added in edit: Feeble as it was, I've wanted to makew that joke for ages. Secret of comedy? Timing -------------- Bye.

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