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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2016,19:05   

The devil made me do it:
sandwalk.blogspot.com/2016/01/targets-arrows-and-lottery-fallacy.html?showComment=1452819782819#c6669041174903535496

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2016,19:10   

No, I'm pretty sure it was stupidity, not the devil.
Same old, same old.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2016,19:17   

Quote (NoName @ Jan. 14 2016,19:10)
No, I'm pretty sure it was stupidity, not the devil.
Same old, same old.

For at least some of us, we are here again:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OGd4gplxQM

Same old, same old, still working for science.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2016,19:29   

You can't 'still' be doing something you've never done.
You're really not up to the use of language, are you?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2016,20:08   

One thing, linked/leads to another:
www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/your-theme-the-miracle

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2016,05:16   

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A note can be added to indicate how much more can in the future be expected. Where that is slowly incremented to reflect data gathering progress it becomes like a goal-drive that encourages researchers with data that sets more pixels to upload it into the NCBI system. At a lab research level it seems like a rather mundane job on top of all else that goes unnoticed by the general public and "science paper" driven academia where filling in the gene information seems like a rather thankless job. But where it for-good puts an end to what Larry is annoyed by enough to have written this article to complain about it becomes heroic to help light up the pixels in graphs that (one way or the other) puts an end to all the arguments over what "search space" has inside of it.


Above from the comment at Sandwalk Gaulin linked to.

English, Gaulin, learn how to use it. (Or so Gaulin can understand it; "English learn use it to how").

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2016,06:46   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 14 2016,19:05)
The devil made me do it:
sandwalk.blogspot.com/2016/01/targets-arrows-and-lottery-fallacy.html?showComment=1452819782819#c6669041174903535496

The color coding for function could be a useful contribution (assuming it hasn't already been done), but lots of similar sorts of visualizations already exist:
http://scienceroll.com/2008.......c-tools
http://molbiol-tools.ca/Styphi.....phi.jpg
http://www.wired.com/2013.......ywinski
http://en.bio-soft.net/dna........nt.html
http://www.rna-seqblog.com/wp-cont....lar.gif
http://genome.crg.es/main.......gen.gif
http://bioinformatics.ai.sri.com/ptools.....bro.jpg
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2016,22:42   

Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 15 2016,06:46)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 14 2016,19:05)
The devil made me do it:
sandwalk.blogspot.com/2016/01/targets-arrows-and-lottery-fallacy.html?showComment=1452819782819#c6669041174903535496

The color coding for function could be a useful contribution (assuming it hasn't already been done), but lots of similar sorts of visualizations already exist:
http://scienceroll.com/2008.......c-tools
http://molbiol-tools.ca/Styphi.....phi.jpg
http://www.wired.com/2013.......ywinski
http://en.bio-soft.net/dna........nt.html
http://www.rna-seqblog.com/wp-cont....lar.gif
http://genome.crg.es/main.......gen.gif
http://bioinformatics.ai.sri.com/ptools.....bro.jpg
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Well well N.Wells it's a pleasure to see you so excited. The links were helpful for ideas.

After testing I found that I needed to revise my methodology to another that should go thousands of times faster:  

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2016.......3906531

In this case the data is most easily displayed in 3D. Z represents letter length of string.

At Z=1 there are four quadrants for each of four possible letters A,C,G or T where all become set, due to all four are found somewhere in the code.

At Z=2 and above the four quadrants from the Z before it are further subdivided into quadrants for each of four possible letters.

It's a fractal like recursion. Possibilities for any letter length string are at the same time shown. I'm not sure how many Z layers a PC can calculate out to but I thought of trying human chromosome 2 alone. The furthest out the method can possible ever go in the Z direction is the length of the entire chromosome. Its basic components would become visible after getting past the short letter length Z layers where all X,Y locations lead to something else.

Where the intensity of each point depends on how often the sequence is used it's possible to stop following a path after it starts fading to black, only appears once. Z only goes out to its longest repeat.

I'm not exactly sure how best to code this. With the Z layers eventually becoming sparse data in too large a space to fit into RAM as an array it makes sense to store a hard drive tree that goes as many Z levels as it can, in a reasonable amount of time and without the drive running out of disk space. Maybe that's far enough to see features to compare chromosomes with. Starting off with our chromosome 2 makes it possible to compare just that to the unfused pairs of our closest relatives.

I hate to get off on another project tangent but it's something I in a way already started at Biology Online. The DNA data files are all set to go, so it makes sense to try it out instead of wondering what it looks like.

I also in OpenOffice redrew the most important element for the poster (circle in circle for each level) that maybe Larry can bring to London but I did not ask yet. It's as though if that looks good enough then I can just submit it to the Royal Society for publication in their journal, for it to make it there. Thinking of it as a poster presentation such an affair most needs taped to a wall where it's easily noticed is helping to figure out how to quickly explain things in a way that makes it easily publishable.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2016,08:43   

A link to a four year old blog with five comments, four of them yours, Gaulin?

Is that what you call science? And calling yourself "Death Adder, Really?

I see your grasp of English hasn't improved in the four years since either.

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I hate to get off on another project tangent but it's something I in a way already started at Biology Online. The DNA data files are all set to go, so it makes sense to try it out instead of wondering what it looks like.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2016,15:59   

Quote (ChemiCat @ Jan. 18 2016,08:43)
And calling yourself "Death Adder, Really?

I didn't call myself that. The Biology Online forum software is for some reason just into snakes. Garter, King Cobra, etc..

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2016,17:49   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 18 2016,13:56)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 18 2016,12:40)
The Disco'tutes banned from United Methodist conference.

Heheheh

The DI claims UMC leadership is "under fire" because the DI got disinvited.

So far as I can see, the only "fire" going on is the DI itself being annoyed and whining about it.

The UMC has a short, clear resolution from 2008 noting that the UMC supports separation of church and state, and thus opposes religious antievolution in public school science classrooms.

I must thank the Discovery Institute, for having provided me with such a useful cut and paste:

http://www.discovery.org/id....umc

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2016,21:38   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 18 2016,15:49)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 18 2016,13:56)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 18 2016,12:40)
The Disco'tutes banned from United Methodist conference.

Heheheh

The DI claims UMC leadership is "under fire" because the DI got disinvited.

So far as I can see, the only "fire" going on is the DI itself being annoyed and whining about it.

The UMC has a short, clear resolution from 2008 noting that the UMC supports separation of church and state, and thus opposes religious antievolution in public school science classrooms.

I must thank the Discovery Institute, for having provided me with such a useful cut and paste:

http://www.discovery.org/id....u........umc

And your point is?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2016,23:37   

Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 18 2016,21:38)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 18 2016,15:49)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 18 2016,13:56)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 18 2016,12:40)
The Disco'tutes banned from United Methodist conference.

Heheheh

The DI claims UMC leadership is "under fire" because the DI got disinvited.

So far as I can see, the only "fire" going on is the DI itself being annoyed and whining about it.

The UMC has a short, clear resolution from 2008 noting that the UMC supports separation of church and state, and thus opposes religious antievolution in public school science classrooms.

I must thank the Discovery Institute, for having provided me with such a useful cut and paste:

http://www.discovery.org/id....u........umc

And your point is?

Due to circumstances beyond my control I have no choice but to make sure my work is not confused with what has become a scam that is now being made very obvious to others by saying crap like the following, while at the same time ignoring the work of the only one making any progress at all with such a theory:

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From: John West
........

Discovery Institute is a non-profit educational and research organization
headquartered in Seattle, Washington. Our Center for Science & Culture
supports scientists and other scholars who believe that life and the universe
reflect evidence of intelligent design.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts....d=11911


Choosing to go to war against the United Methodist Church could turn out to be the DI's biggest mistake. And I'm not just saying that, just because I was born and raised to be a Methodist.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,06:59   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,00:37)
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Due to circumstances beyond my control I have no choice but to make sure my work is not confused with what has become a scam that is now being made very obvious to others by saying crap like the following, while at the same time ignoring the work of the only one making any progress at all with such a theory:
...

But Gary, your work is not confused with anyone's anything -- it is entirely irrelevant to everyone except yourself.  That there is nothing out there to confuse it with is hardly a mark in its favor.
The fantasy that you are making any sort of 'progress' is even more ludicrous than calling your output a 'theory' or the suggestion that it is somehow concerned with design.  It is surpassed only by the utter delusion that you are doing anything remotely original.  Your work is sterile, derivative, and, ultimately, nothing but masturbatory word-fondling.

Your work over the past couple of years has involved little more than posting links to actual scientific work inevitably performed by others.  Work that neither entails nor is entailed by a single one of your notions.
Your software is evidence of nothing but your limited ability to write code.  It is neither interesting nor particularly creative code.  Its output is meaningless to all except yourself.

There is no need to differentiate your work from the work of others once it is seen that your work is bad fan fiction, not science.  It is unique.  Sadly, uniqueness is trivial and not, in and of itself, a mark of quality or grounds for praise.  It is, in fact, a product of language.  Mucking about with language, and language games in the pejorative sense of term, is all you do.  Were it ever to result in something new and correct, it would be by accident.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,07:05   

You don't have a theory, and you haven't been making progress with it.  Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.  It has been obvious to almost everyone for a long time that "intelligent design" is a fraud, a trojan horse to slip religion into science under the cloak of jargon, opacity, and false logic.  If you wish not to be confused with it, you might have chosen another name for your ideas.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,16:46   

Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 19 2016,07:05)
Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.

Would you mind explaining what makes you (and NoName) such outspoken representatives of issues that only the Discovery Institute should even care about? What do you get out of it? Do they pay you to represent them?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,16:54   

Good lord you're stupid.
And arrogant with it.

There are exactly zero issues that only a single organization should care about.
The substantive points raised against your effluent have yet to be addressed.

Worse, after what, 8+ years of shilling your crap on the Internet, you've found not a single supporter.
Pathetic.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,17:02   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,16:46)
Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 19 2016,07:05)
Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.

Would you mind explaining what makes you (and NoName) such outspoken representatives of issues that only the Discovery Institute should even care about? What do you get out of it? Do they pay you to represent them?

By this "logic", you shouldn't care either, Gary.  Brilliant.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,17:23   

Logic has never been Gary's friend.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,17:51   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,16:46)
Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 19 2016,07:05)
Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.

Would you mind explaining what makes you (and NoName) such outspoken representatives of issues that only the Discovery Institute should even care about? What do you get out of it? Do they pay you to represent them?

Why shouldn't people who care about science be concerned that you are trying to pass off illogical nonsense as science?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,17:59   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 19 2016,17:02)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,16:46)
Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 19 2016,07:05)
Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.

Would you mind explaining what makes you (and NoName) such outspoken representatives of issues that only the Discovery Institute should even care about? What do you get out of it? Do they pay you to represent them?

By this "logic", you shouldn't care either, Gary.  Brilliant.

Guilt by association gives me very good reasons to care about deceptive Discovery Institute representatives who are now trying to show what a great "theory of intelligent design" they have by heavily investing in the bashing of the leadership of the United Method Church, for not inviting the DI to their religious affair.

This level of scientific negligence should be criminal. Maybe is.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,18:12   

Trust us Gary -- no one bases their contempt for you on some fantasized relationship between you and them.
You're fully contemptible, and fully incompetent all on your own.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,18:13   

Looks like someone's request for a DI grant went in the bin...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,18:26   

Poor Gary.  The tragedy of his life is that he gets all the respect he deserves.  Just as he gets all the success he has earned.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,18:35   

Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 19 2016,18:13)
Looks like someone's request for a DI grant went in the bin...

All efforts for help, even simple things like editing of what I have for grammar or publishing in their journal, were unsuccessful.

Developing scientific theory is clearly still not on their agenda.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,18:45   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,17:59)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 19 2016,17:02)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,16:46)
 
Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 19 2016,07:05)
Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.

Would you mind explaining what makes you (and NoName) such outspoken representatives of issues that only the Discovery Institute should even care about? What do you get out of it? Do they pay you to represent them?

By this "logic", you shouldn't care either, Gary.  Brilliant.

Guilt by association gives me very good reasons to care about deceptive Discovery Institute representatives who are now trying to show what a great "theory of intelligent design" they have by heavily investing in the bashing of the leadership of the United Method Church, for not inviting the DI to their religious affair.

This level of scientific negligence should be criminal. Maybe is.

1) any association between you and the DI is your fault.  You inexplicably stole the name of their fraudulent enterprise.  You should start a group to promote your ideas and call it the National Socialist Party.

2) whether you think you have reasons to care was irrelevant to my point.  You stupidly said only the DI should care, then said you care.  That's criminally stupid.  You should be slapped and sterilized.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,19:11   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 19 2016,18:45)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,17:59)
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 19 2016,17:02)
 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,16:46)
 
Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 19 2016,07:05)
Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.

Would you mind explaining what makes you (and NoName) such outspoken representatives of issues that only the Discovery Institute should even care about? What do you get out of it? Do they pay you to represent them?

By this "logic", you shouldn't care either, Gary.  Brilliant.

Guilt by association gives me very good reasons to care about deceptive Discovery Institute representatives who are now trying to show what a great "theory of intelligent design" they have by heavily investing in the bashing of the leadership of the United Method Church, for not inviting the DI to their religious affair.

This level of scientific negligence should be criminal. Maybe is.

1) any association between you and the DI is your fault.  You inexplicably stole the name of their fraudulent enterprise.  You should start a group to promote your ideas and call it the National Socialist Party.

2) whether you think you have reasons to care was irrelevant to my point.  You stupidly said only the DI should care, then said you care.  That's criminally stupid.  You should be slapped and sterilized.

It is supposed to be standard practice to "give credit where due" for such things as proposing a viable scientific premise that was found to be useful.

Your not caring about scientific honesty and integrity is an example of a bad teaching skills. Not that I am saying that you are really a science teacher. If you are then it will at least help explain why there are so many in the US who are scientifically dangerous, even when there is no science at all in their possession.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2016,20:50   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,19:11)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 19 2016,18:45)
 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,17:59)
   
Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 19 2016,17:02)
   
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Quote (N.Wells @ Jan. 19 2016,07:05)
Your stuff does not actually deal with intelligent design since it makes claims about emergence of intelligence that you claim is self-similar all the way down.

Would you mind explaining what makes you (and NoName) such outspoken representatives of issues that only the Discovery Institute should even care about? What do you get out of it? Do they pay you to represent them?

By this "logic", you shouldn't care either, Gary.  Brilliant.

Guilt by association gives me very good reasons to care about deceptive Discovery Institute representatives who are now trying to show what a great "theory of intelligent design" they have by heavily investing in the bashing of the leadership of the United Method Church, for not inviting the DI to their religious affair.

This level of scientific negligence should be criminal. Maybe is.

1) any association between you and the DI is your fault.  You inexplicably stole the name of their fraudulent enterprise.  You should start a group to promote your ideas and call it the National Socialist Party.

2) whether you think you have reasons to care was irrelevant to my point.  You stupidly said only the DI should care, then said you care.  That's criminally stupid.  You should be slapped and sterilized.

It is supposed to be standard practice to "give credit where due" for such things as proposing a viable scientific premise that was found to be useful.

Your not caring about scientific honesty and integrity is an example of a bad teaching skills. Not that I am saying that you are really a science teacher. If you are then it will at least help explain why there are so many in the US who are scientifically dangerous, even when there is no science at all in their possession.

You have never proposed anything viable, and your first mistake (of so, so many) was trying to latch yourself onto a complete fake.  The DI never had anything real.  It was a sham to sneak past court rulings. You were fooled into associating yourself with their lies, and it must be very embarrassing for you.

Your not caring about logic is an example of a bad thinking skills. Not that I am saying that you are really brain damaged. If you are then it will at least help explain why there are so many in the US who believe complete bullshit, even when there is no science at all in their possession.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2016,01:51   

Rather than citing the publically original title O'News refers to the Royal Society Meeting on "New trends in evolutionary biology: biological, philosophical and social science perspectives" as "Rethink evolution" here, here and here. Note Denyse:
Just because you are hoping for it and the notorious Suzan Mazur is trying to sell herself as the prophet who has written the bible on the Evolution Paradigm Shift again doesn't mean that anything like that will happen.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 20 2016,06:32   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 19 2016,20:11)
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It is supposed to be standard practice to "give credit where due" for such things as proposing a viable scientific premise that was found to be useful.
...

Yes, it is indeed supposed to be standard practice to give credit where credit is due.
And you've received all the credit you are due.

You most emphatically have not proposed a 'viable scientific premise'.
The banal, trivial, and universally accepted notion that some things in the universe are best explained by intelligent action is most emphatically not a premise, scientific or otherwise.
It most emphatically has not been found to be useful -- other than as a critical step in the very early learning done by human children as they first begin to categorize things in the world.  Children generally have this figured out before kindergarten.
It is as fundamental, and as banal and trivial, as the insight that some features of the universe are alive while others are not.

  
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