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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,15:30   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 04 2006,15:24)
Re avatars--stevie is a pinhead and doesn't know where to go get them (or is too lazy to google "avatar" and see what happens...).

But if the smarty darwinistic people stoop to helping pinheaded atavistic stevie, then...who knows, maybe pictures start popping out like horseapples after snowmelt!

Or oxford-english speaking darwin-loving redneck babes in Slovakian bars!

Or...

Wikipedia has all kinds of great avatar images:



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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,16:11   

Uh, we need to start much simpler for stevie.  If I go to Wikipedia and search "avatar," I don't get a selection of samples, I get an article about avatars...!

Even if I find a sample image, where does it get hosted, how do I link it, etc., etc....

Remember the third and fourth syllables in the screenname!

???

  
Mike PSS



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,16:29   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 04 2006,17:11)
Uh, we need to start much simpler for stevie.  If I go to Wikipedia and search "avatar," I don't get a selection of samples, I get an article about avatars...!

Even if I find a sample image, where does it get hosted, how do I link it, etc., etc....

Remember the third and fourth syllables in the screenname!

???

First, find an image you like and copy the URL (a right-click on the image and opening 'Properties' will get you the image path from the middle of a web page).

Click on Your Control Panel at the top of the page.
Then click on Personal Info Tab.
Then click on Avatar Options.
At the bottom of that page is a place to paste the path of your avatar.
Select size (64x64 is max size) and click on the button below the path you just pasted.
Happy avatar.

I just inserted Patrick.gif as an example just now.
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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,17:44   

Oookay, let's see what happens...

Ah, now we're talking!   :p

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,18:14   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 04 2006,17:44)
Oookay, let's see what happens...

Ah, now we're talking!   :p

Gabba gabba we accept you we accept you one of us!
Gabba gabba we accept you we accept you one of us!


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,18:25   

Quote (VMartin @ Dec. 04 2006,12:34)
First I thought you are a bipolar scribbler  - but I see now that you are only dirty scabby darwinistic pig.

Nuh-uh, I'm a dirty scabby NEWTONISTIC pig.

And EINSTEINISTIC pig.

And FARADAYISTIC pig.

So there.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,18:33   

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I see now that you are only dirty scabby darwinistic pig.


No! DaveScot say, I am church burning Ebola boy!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,18:45   

Quote (Steviepinhead @ Dec. 04 2006,18:44)
Oookay, let's see what happens...

Ah, now we're talking!   :p

The pinhead is outed.

Is there anything else you wish to publicaly confess?

A-a-a-a-a-n-n-n-n-n-y-t-h-i-n-n-n-n-n-g-g-g-g??

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,18:54   

Church Burnin' Ebola Boy.  No g, get it right.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,21:08   

Sorry that I missed this from VMartin:

 
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Since the folks here like nice english, I dug out something from prominent writer and former scientist Nabokov on mimicry - of course attitude is antidarwinian one -


Hey literary giant: Nabokov's real point was that mimicry involved deception, but not necessarily strict duplication.

I'm afraid that he may have anthropomorphized his butterflies and perhaps attributed intentionality to them, but it hardly stacks up to intelligent design, as in G*d. Nice try.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2006,22:22   

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Or oxford-english speaking darwin-loving redneck babes in Slovakian bars!


Is it possible that Borat has invaded this little forum?

:p

hey Borat:  I have a question for you, and it's about mimicry:

Why don't you explain to the nice folks here the difference between mullerian and batesian mimicry, and the currently accepted (and supported)hypotheses explaining the evolution and maintenance of these traits.  While you're at it, cite some good examples of field experiments regarding the evolution of either type of mimicry as well.

that would give you some "street cred" if you actually want to talk about the science behind the study of mimicry.

otherwise, admit you haven't a clue what yer on about, in any language, and kindly STFU.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,09:02   

Personally, my own moment when little Borat here jumped the shark was when, early on, he cited as one of his big grievances against 'Darwinism' the fact that the Communist goverment back in Albania or Moldova or Slovakia or wherever the fuck he supposedly grew up advocated Darwinism. So now he's convinced that Darwinism is Stalinist, in much the same way that O'Leary and Co.'s big beef against Darwinism is its perceived wicked materialist 'atheism'. Another cartoon caricature of 'Darwinists' that's offered up as 'scientific evidence' against it.

Sorry, when an argument like that is offered up, you lose. Sorry the commies were mean to you back where you grew up, but if you can't understand why that's irrelevant to a discuission of evolution, you might as well hang a big sign around your neck saying "I AM AN IDIOT, KICK ME NOW".

It didn't help when the greatest scientists he could summon up to support his arguments were Nietzsche, Nabokov, and, Bog Help Us, Javison.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,10:47   

I never realised Vladimir Nabokov was also a distinguished lepidopterist. Lolita is one of the landmark novels of my youth.

  
VMartin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,11:04   

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Personally, my own moment when little Borat here jumped the shark was when, early on, he cited as one of his big grievances against 'Darwinism' the fact that the Communist goverment back in Albania or Moldova or Slovakia or wherever the fuck he supposedly grew up advocated Darwinism. So now he's convinced that Darwinism is Stalinist, in much the same way that O'Leary and Co.'s big beef against Darwinism is its perceived wicked materialist 'atheism'. Another cartoon caricature of 'Darwinists' that's offered up as 'scientific evidence' against it


Are all the folks here so stupid and ignorrant like you?
During stalinism and later only accepted theory was lysenkism. Lysenko contradicted Darwin. Lysenko claimed that only environment forms living beings and he tried his theory with catastrofical outcome in prax. All the time they denigrated morganism.
If you at that time  had tried contradict Lysenko with darwinism you would ended in Gulag, you stupid american villager.

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VMartin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,11:11   

Steviepinhead
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Or oxford-english speaking darwin-loving redneck babes in Slovakian bars!


In your country you are probably accustomed to such plump ladies that they need two bar stools
for they fat asses.
No wonder there is not enough place left for you at the bar. So its hard to start your favorite heartbreaker how a sorcerer  RandomMutat  changed swimming Yogi-bear into huge huge whale Willy.

Your frustration seems to ventilate here on "the challenging scientific-technical forum"  After the bar closes.

Because you are not familiar with topic you either evaluate wit of posts or you check english grammar.

Why dont you rather go to forest behind your village house?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,11:35   

John 'Borat' Davison-Martin
   
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In your country you are probably accustomed to such plump ladies that they need two bar stools
for they fat asses.
No wonder there is not enough place left for you at the bar. So its hard to start your favorite heartbreaker how a sorcerer  RandomMutat  changed swimming Yogi-bear into huge huge whale Willy.

Your frustration seems to ventilate here on "the challenging scientific-technical forum"  After the bar closes.

Because you are not familiar with topic you either evaluate wit of posts or you check english grammar.

Why dont you rather go to forest behind your village house?

Gee John, your accent keeps getting more and more weird.  Do you need to up your dosage of Lithium?

Why did you ignore Ichthyic's request for info on mullerian and batesian mimicry?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,11:46   

Quote (VMartin @ Dec. 05 2006,11:04)
During stalinism and later only accepted theory was lysenkism. Lysenko contradicted Darwin. Lysenko claimed that only environment forms living beings and he tried his theory with catastrofical outcome in prax. All the time they denigrated morganism.

If you at that time  had tried contradict Lysenko with darwinism you would ended in Gulag, you stupid american villager.

But what then was 'Darwinism' to Stalin and Lysenko?

It's near impossible to figure out, what people mean by 'Darwinism', although I have spent some time trying.

According to Richard Weikart, Hitler was a 'social darwinist'. Usually, 'social Darwinism' refers to laissez-faire liberalism, which is for a minimal state, whose only rôle is to protect the weak against the strong. Hardly descriptive of a totalitarian ideology as Nazism.

Anyway, Darwin wasn't opposed to the idea that environment played a rôle; his pangenesis theory of inheritance stated that germ cells contained information from the entire body, even such as was due to environmental influences on the individual.


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,12:09   

Quote (VMartin @ Dec. 05 2006,11:11)
Steviepinhead
 
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Or oxford-english speaking darwin-loving redneck babes in Slovakian bars!


In your country you are probably accustomed to such plump ladies that they need two bar stools
for they fat asses.
No wonder there is not enough place left for you at the bar. So its hard to start your favorite heartbreaker how a sorcerer  RandomMutat  changed swimming Yogi-bear into huge huge whale Willy.

Your frustration seems to ventilate here on "the challenging scientific-technical forum"  After the bar closes.

Because you are not familiar with topic you either evaluate wit of posts or you check english grammar.

Why dont you rather go to forest behind your village house?

"Een Soviet Union, TV watches you!"



Okay, now I'm back to thinking that 'VMartin' is just G.O.Paley fucking with us. No way he's who he says he is, but this might be a little too elaborate to actually be Davison.

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VMartin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,12:35   

PWE.


Problem is complex one. According Lysenko "Genetics is pseudoscience".

"Removing from biology mendelism-morganism-weismanism we made biology get rid of chance." (1951)

Yet his mixture of lamarckism + dialectic marxism + darwinism and vitalism seems to be the definition of the "lysenkism". Darwinism (they thought neodarwinism) was too plain, frigid. Inheritance should be explained via "creative darwinism".  Inheritance is due lamarckism that mendelists-morganists threw away.

You see that this have nothing to do with new synthesis or neodarwinism at all.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,13:29   

Since everyone seemed to be avatar crazy, I decided to make one.  Enjoy.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,14:08   

Quote (ScaryFacts @ Dec. 05 2006,13:29)
Since everyone seemed to be avatar crazy, I decided to make one.  Enjoy.



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,14:11   

Arden Chatfield:
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Okay, now I'm back to thinking that 'VMartin' is just G.O.Paley fucking with us.

Occam Aftershave:
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Gee John, your accent keeps getting more and more weird.

Jeannot:
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It can't be Paley.

Arden Chatfield:
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Maybe VMartin is actually Lenny Flank!

Richardthughes:
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...but you do smell of urine and old folks homes. IS THAT YOU, DAVIDSON, YOU ODIOUS BELLEND?


and last but not at least:


"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank
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Don't flatter yourself.  No one here CARES who you are.  (shrug)



Oh boys, you should see Cage of fools movie. Its about you.
Or better you should play in your own stage play.
The name of stage play: "Darwinistic idiot with Pandas thumb in ass".

Success of such a play even in Brodway is unquestionable (supposing you will use your idiotic nicks there too).

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,14:34   

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supposing you will use your idiotic nicks there too).


Go back to your dictionary, that sentence doesn't mean anything.

I love it so!

It's hard to believe, isn't it!

How do you like them apples?

Got that? Write it down!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,16:06   

Martin,

What about the connection between Lysenko and Berg. Does Leo Berg bear some responsibility for the deaths of approximately 30 million Ukrainians?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,17:02   

Delurking to vote that VMartin = GOP.  I could easily be wrong on the specific accusation, but I'm quite confident that Mr. Martin is a sock puppet.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,17:56   

Quote (deejay @ Dec. 05 2006,17:02)
Delurking to vote that VMartin = GOP.  I could easily be wrong on the specific accusation, but I'm quite confident that Mr. Martin is a sock puppet.

Indeed, the main remaining question is whether Martin = one of Paley's two known personalities, or whether he reflects a third, hitherto-unknown Paley personality.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,18:28   

Has anyone tallied John A. Davison's score on the Crackpot Index for Biology yet?

 
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The CRACKPOT Index

A simple method for rating potentially revolutionary contributions to biology.

1. A -5 point starting credit.

2. 1 point for every statement that is widely agreed on to be false.

3. 2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous.

4. 3 points for every statement that is logically inconsistent.

5. 5 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction.

6. 5 points for using a thought experiment that contradicts the results of a widely accepted real experiment.

7. 5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards).

8. 5 points for each mention of "Heackel", "Dawkin", "Steven Gould" or "Eldridge".

9. 10 points for each claim that genetics or evolution is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

10. 10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity. An extra 5 points for citing your engineering, dentistry, medical or computing degree as authoritative in biology. An extra 5 points for a pseudomedical qualification (such as homeopathy or holistic massage).

11. 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it.

12. 10 points for mailing your theory to someone you don't know personally and asking them not to tell anyone else about it, for fear that your ideas will be stolen.

13. 10 points for offering prize money to anyone who proves and/or finds any flaws in your theory, or to anyone who can prove evolution is true.

14. 10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at genetics, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations".

15. 10 points for arguing that a current well-established theory is "only a theory", as if this were somehow a point against it.

16. 10 points for arguing that while a current well-established theory predicts phenomena correctly, it doesn't explain "why" they occur, or fails to provide a "mechanism".

17. 10 points for each claim that Punctuated Equilibrium Theory, or some similar recent view in biology, is evidence of creationism (or some similar view such as Intelligent Design), or claim that modern biology is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

18. 10 points for claiming that your work is on the cutting edge of a "paradigm shift" and that we need to go beyond Darwinism.

19. 20 points for suggesting that you or your hero deserve a Nobel prize.

20. 20 points for every use of religious or science fiction works or myths as if they were fact.

21. 20 points for defending yourself by bringing up (real or imagined) ridicule accorded to your past theories.

22. 20 points for each use of the phrase "hidebound reactionary" or "Darwinist establishment" or cognates.

23. 20 points for each use of the phrase "self-appointed defender of the orthodoxy" or cognates.

24. 30 points for suggesting that a famous figure secretly disbelieved in a theory which he or she publicly supported (e.g., that Darwin recanted on his deathbed).

25. 30 points for suggesting that some major scientist, in his later years, was groping his way towards the ideas you now advocate.

26. 30 points for claiming that your theories were developed by a pre-industrial culture (without good evidence).

27. 40 points for comparing those who argue against your ideas to Nazis, eugenicists, stormtroopers, or brownshirts.

28. 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.

29. 40 points for comparing yourself to Galileo, suggesting that a modern-day Inquisition is hard at work on your case, and so on.

30. 40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant, especially after their death, or for announcing the "death of Darwinism".)

31. 50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions, formal models, or exact hypotheses.

32. 10 points for every claim of lurker e-mail support.

33. 100 points for asserting that molecular evolution of complex proteins is impossible because of the large neutral gaps that selection would have to cross, or that there are boundaries between species or other groups of organisms that evolution cannot breach.


I get him at somewhere around 700 points.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,20:18   

You guys are all just bandwagon Martin=GOPs.

I was there when the idea wasn't popular.

Losers.

:D

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2006,21:06   

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Lolita is one of the landmark novels of my youth.


Mine too!

Got that? Love it down.

I write it so!

(Someone help me.)  :D

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pwe



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2006,07:14   

Quote (VMartin @ Dec. 05 2006,12:35)
Problem is complex one. According Lysenko "Genetics is pseudoscience".

"Removing from biology mendelism-morganism-weismanism we made biology get rid of chance." (1951)

Yet his mixture of lamarckism + dialectic marxism + darwinism and vitalism seems to be the definition of the "lysenkism". Darwinism (they thought neodarwinism) was too plain, frigid. Inheritance should be explained via "creative darwinism".  Inheritance is due lamarckism that mendelists-morganists threw away.

You see that this have nothing to do with new synthesis or neodarwinism at all.

Yes, Lysenko was primarily against Mendelian genetics - which was considered to be similar to believing in fairies, since genes could not be seen back then.

Interesting that Lysenko was against chance. That moves him into line with the IDists, doesn't it?


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