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Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,16:13    Steviepinhead wrote: Quote Ahem. If he's never been recognized or adopted by the clan mothers, he simply ain't a Pinhead, sorry. If I had a soul it would surely be damned by this transgression of mine.  May the fleas of a thousand camels nest in my armpits. However, calling Luskin a moron is an insult to morons, so I guess everybody's on the hook. Curse that Luskin!  Da goober's downright uninsultable!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,16:40    Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 31 2008,09:14) Top 10 Other Habits of Casey Luskin's Bosses 7.) Send out Casey's resume to other employers every day LOL.

bystander Posts: 301 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,20:31    Quote (Bueller_007 @ Jan. 01 2009,08:27) Quote (bystander @ Dec. 31 2008,01:49) I'd love this to be referenced on UD with all of the true believers being forced to defend it ( being as they have to defend everything any other IDist says). I wonder in private if somebody doesn't come up to Luskin and wack him in the back of the head and tell him to think before publishing. Your wish has been granted. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....plexity Ha ha. So translating it they agree that it is still OK because even though it functions with parts removed, it is a different function and therefore evolution is false. and when somebody pipes up and says this is what we expect from evolution they accuse people of bending meaning. (Head hits keyboard) Do these guys have feet left? There are so many bullet holes in them.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,21:51    In another outing, Casey cites his thread on this forum, then spouts this:   Quote I don't list this example to complain — I happily forgive those who have attacked me, and in fact my main response to this behavior is sadness for how it brings the ID-evolution debate down into the gutter. Rather, I mention this example to point out that this example alone finds no counterpart anywhere in the ways that ID proponents have treated Darwinists. The internet Darwinist track record of name-calling against ID proponents speaks for itself, and Humes has portrayed the general nature of personal and ad hominem attacks in this issue exactly backwards from reality. Emphasis added. Casey, your ignorance is showing. As usual. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2009,07:53    I love dear, sweet Casey's "argument"* in all of this: 1) Someone was mean to me on Teh Intarnetz 2) Therefore IDC is persecuted 3) Therefore Darwinists = Teh Nazis 4) Therefore IDC is correct 5) Therefore Jesus (A Jesus, in an ID argument? Schtum, schtum!) Tehdesignerdunit. QED.** Louis * By insinuation and appeal to prejudice as per usual. ** Qasey Est Doofus.*** *** And you can quote me on that. P.S. Does Casey really, really, think that all "Darwinists" (Who they? Ed.) have is argumentum ad hominem? Does he need explaining to him that a) no one I've ever seen/read/listened to has EVER used the argumentum ad hominem, to refute any IDCist claim, and b) that abuse =/= argumentum ad hominem. It's like a Monty Python sketch, I think that Casey is unaware that he stumbled out of the Argument room a long time ago and has instead found himself in the room marked "Abuse". It's a lovely room, reserved for people determined to make an utter berk of themselves in public. -------------- Bye.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2009,09:03    Hey, when was the last time one of us Church Burnin Ebola Boys called the Department of Homeland Security on an IDiot? Oh wait. Yeah, that wasn't us, was it? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

RupertG Posts: 80 Joined: Nov. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2009,21:20    Meanwhile, Ken Miller is being extremely unfair to Casey over on the Loom, by actually reading what Casey says, comparing it to what Casey's talking about, and pointing out one or two minor discrepancies. You know, like where Behe didn't say what Casey said he said, but wrote it down in his books anyway. As it's on the Loom, of course, Casey is entirely at liberty to enter into a discussion on these and what promise to be some substantial further points. I hope we can get this unpleasantness tidied away in time for ID's next science report. -------------- Uncle Joe and Aunty Mabel Fainted at the breakfast table Children, let this be a warning Never do it in the morning -- Ralph Vaughan Williams

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2009,12:19    It's nice that the antievolutionists are still getting drubbed by Ken Miller (who has some guest posts up at Carl Zimmer's The Loom). Casey Luskin is now learning some stuff about cetacean blood clotting from Miller. I was there at the American Museum of Natural History in 2002 when Ken Miller surprised Michael Behe with the fact that cetaceans lacked Hagemann factor. It shouldn't have surprised Behe, as it was in the literature since 1969. And I was there at a dinner earlier in 2002 when my friend Mark Todd pointed out the cetacean blood clotting difference to Ken Miller. We were talking about the various IDC arguments, and when it came around to blood clotting, Mark said, "But whales and dolphins don't have one of those factors." Ken asked for the reference, and we got that from Sam Ridgway shortly thereafter. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2009,12:39    Quote Casey Luskin is now learning some stuff about cetacean blood clotting from Miller. Learning?  You think? -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2009,13:34    Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 03 2009,12:39) Quote Casey Luskin is now learning some stuff about cetacean blood clotting from Miller. Learning?  You think? Is Luskin even self aware enough to realize the magnitude of the whupping he is taking? Or will he continue in blissful ignorance? -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2009,13:59    Quote (afarensis @ Jan. 03 2009,13:34) Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 03 2009,12:39)   Quote Casey Luskin is now learning some stuff about cetacean blood clotting from Miller. Learning?  You think? Is Luskin even self aware enough to realize the magnitude of the whupping he is taking? Or will he continue in blissful ignorance? The correct answer is "continue in blissful ignorance" - Now what do I win, and what is my prize??? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2009,15:34    Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 03 2009,13:59) Quote (afarensis @ Jan. 03 2009,13:34)   Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 03 2009,12:39)     Quote Casey Luskin is now learning some stuff about cetacean blood clotting from Miller. Learning?  You think? Is Luskin even self aware enough to realize the magnitude of the whupping he is taking? Or will he continue in blissful ignorance? The correct answer is "continue in blissful ignorance" - Now what do I win, and what is my prize??? I was going to say the gift of fire, but then I remembered that, unlike Neanderthals, australopithecines didn't make fire -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2009,20:55    Quote (afarensis @ Jan. 03 2009,15:34) I was going to say the gift of fire, but then I remembered that, unlike Neanderthals, australopithecines didn't make fire ??? Stereo-type!   You're just lucky Geico could't prounouce your name right... -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2009,00:45    http://scienceblogs.com/strange....lus.php With William Dembski, Mike Gene, and Michael Behe pretty much quiet these days, Casey's becoming the go-to guy for creationist dumbassery. It's like an attrition thing.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2009,08:08    Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 05 2009,00:45) http://scienceblogs.com/strange....lus.php With William Dembski, Mike Gene, and Michael Behe pretty much quiet these days, Casey's becoming the go-to guy for creationist dumbassery. It's like an attrition thing. One of the Panda's commentators to Nick Matzke's dismantling of Luskin's lies mentioned that the DI - and Casey - are doing this to try and help their cause in The Next Dover Case, by trying to get information about "teach both sides" out in front of the public prior to a TX or LA test case. I hope that the next Good Ol' Boy Judge is as smart as Judge Jones hisself. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2009,10:43    Quote I hope that the next Good Ol' Boy Judge is as smart as Judge Jones hisself. I'd think the greatest fear the ID movement has is getting a dumbass judge to side with them and having that opinion overturned on appeal. I've followed the right wing argument for some time and know they were expecting Supreme court replacements to be appointed by a conservative. Now that ain't gonna happen. The next time this gets to the Supreme Court, it will be strike three. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2009,19:06    Ack! Gasp...cough...snort...should have never tried the pure stuff ... brain cells dying as the concentrated tard erodes neurons...synapses melting into pile of jello...cough...gack.... -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2009,19:08    Medic! -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2009,21:25    Quote Medic! He knew the job was dangerous when he took it! Henry

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2009,21:48    Quote (afarensis @ Feb. 03 2009,19:06) Ack! Gasp...cough...snort...should have never tried the pure stuff ... brain cells dying as the concentrated tard erodes neurons...synapses melting into pile of jello...cough...gack.... :O Well, at least Luskin DOES write to go see the exhibit! Everything else he writes is the company line, but if little johnny student DOES go see Lucy, there is a chance that (s)he might be the next Afarensis of J-dog. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2009,22:08    Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 03 2009,21:48) Quote (afarensis @ Feb. 03 2009,19:06) Ack! Gasp...cough...snort...should have never tried the pure stuff ... brain cells dying as the concentrated tard erodes neurons...synapses melting into pile of jello...cough...gack.... :O Well, at least Luskin DOES write to go see the exhibit! Everything else he writes is the company line, but if little johnny student DOES go see Lucy, there is a chance that (s)he might be the next Afarensis of J-dog. Oh, well, in that case I'm not quite dead yet. I'm feeling better. I think I could recover...Yes, as a matter of fact I think I'll fisk this tomorrow evening. -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

JLT Posts: 740 Joined: Jan. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,07:27    Surprise: Casey Luskin thinks Ben Stein was EXPELLED by the University of Vermont.   Quote Again, Fogel’s denial that this bears upon academic freedom has a huge credibility gap: Fogel claims this isn’t about freedom of expression, but it seems clear that scholars aren’t free to express support for intelligent design or they are charged with “ignor[ing] the basics of scientific inquiry.” Obviously, my academic freedom is restricted by my university (and every other university). Never got a honorary degree. QED. -------------- "Random mutations, if they are truly random, will affect, and potentially damage, any aspect of the organism, [...] Thus, a realistic [computer] simulation [of evolution] would allow the program, OS, and hardware to be affected in a random fashion." GilDodgen, Frilly shirt owner

noncarborundum Posts: 320 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,09:00    Quote (JLT @ Feb. 04 2009,07:27) Surprise: Casey Luskin thinks Ben Stein was EXPELLED by the University of Vermont.       Quote Again, Fogel’s denial that this bears upon academic freedom has a huge credibility gap: Fogel claims this isn’t about freedom of expression, but it seems clear that scholars aren’t free to express support for intelligent design or they are charged with “ignor[ing] the basics of scientific inquiry.” Obviously, my academic freedom is restricted by my university (and every other university). Never got a honorary degree. QED. Ben Stein == scholar? When did that happen? -------------- "The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,09:09    Quote (JLT @ Feb. 04 2009,07:27) Surprise: Casey Luskin thinks Ben Stein was EXPELLED by the University of Vermont.       Quote Again, Fogel’s denial that this bears upon academic freedom has a huge credibility gap: Fogel claims this isn’t about freedom of expression, but it seems clear that scholars aren’t free to express support for intelligent design or they are charged with “ignor[ing] the basics of scientific inquiry.” Obviously, my academic freedom is restricted by my university (and every other university). Never got a honorary degree. QED. Gee, Casey, whastsamattah? Can't get an IDEA club started at Vermont to sponsor Ben Stein? Ben ran away, baby. Academic freedom, huh? Well, how 'bout that. *Edited to add: Now Ben Stein says I never wanted to give that speech anyway!" We have a flounce-out! We have a flounce-out! Edited by Kristine on Feb. 04 2009,09:32 -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,10:27    I could have lived a long time without that image in my brain. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,16:55    http://ideaclubok.org/academic-freedom-day Quote This February 12th - Darwin Day - will be followed on its heels at the University of Oklahoma by Academic Freedom Day on February 20th. IDEA Club will have a display accompanied by discussion on the South Oval of the OU campus, as well as lectures by John West and Casey Luskin, advocates for intelligent design. Please let there be photos. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,17:02    Elsewhere they say Quote William A. Dembski, a known proponent of Intelligent Design. A known proponent? I'd say..... That phrasing makes it sound somewhat seedy. And surprise surprise, it's a book signing opportunity too.   Quote It will include book signings by both speakers -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,17:37    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 04 2009,16:55) http://ideaclubok.org/academic-freedom-day       Quote This February 12th - Darwin Day - will be followed on its heels at the University of Oklahoma by Academic Freedom Day on February 20th. IDEA Club will have a display accompanied by discussion on the South Oval of the OU campus, as well as lectures by John West and Casey Luskin, advocates for intelligent design. Please let there be photos. Can someone help me out here?  Why would the website for the IDEA club at the University of Oklahoma be registered by someone at The Apologia Project in California? Especially since the OU IDEA Club already registered a domain name almost two months earlier. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,18:47    Quote (carlsonjok @ Feb. 04 2009,17:37) Please let there be photos.[/quote] Can someone help me out here?  Why would the website for the IDEA club at the University of Oklahoma be registered by someone at The Apologia Project in California? Especially since the OU IDEA Club already registered a domain name almost two months earlier. If I ever need a Private Eye, YOU are hired! That there's some beautiful design detection! Perhaps Abbie can stop by and ask your question if /when they ever show up on campus.  I'm sure Dr. Dr. D would also be happy to autograph a Sweater Picture while he's there too. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

ERV Posts: 329 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2009,21:27    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 04 2009,16:55) http://ideaclubok.org/academic-freedom-day   Quote This February 12th - Darwin Day - will be followed on its heels at the University of Oklahoma by Academic Freedom Day on February 20th. IDEA Club will have a display accompanied by discussion on the South Oval of the OU campus, as well as lectures by John West and Casey Luskin, advocates for intelligent design. Please let there be photos. The 'website' you all are linking to has disappeared. Oh please, PLEASE Baby Jesus, let this be real!!!! *eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegiddyclappingeeeeeeeee*

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