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Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:16    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 18 2018,14:10) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:01) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:58)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,13:55)       Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:45) OK, so there isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, traps heat. There isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, makes it hotter. There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. Joke is really on a roll today! Excess CO2 doesn't keep heat in, it just makes the average temperature be warmer for longer. You can't make up this kind of stupidity folks, you just can't.   :D So tiny timmy still cannot read for comprehension. Figures There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. It doesn't increase the temps. It just delays the cooling enough to skew the average temp. But that is moot as you are too stupid to understand that Christ what an idiot. "CO2 doesn't help retain heat, it just makes the average temperature be warmer". You're a pearl Joke, a real pearl!   :D He better stay away from Mullings or he might get clutched. You get clutched on an hourly basis -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:17    CO2 does not cause an increase in temperatures. That is because the earth is NOT a greenhouse and it is not a car with its windows up. Do weather forecasters have to know the CO2 content before making their forecast? No. Why? Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. That is a fact. Only morons think that CO2 causes higher temps. If that were true then every day we should see record highs as we have record highs of atmospheric CO2. CO2 only absorbs and emits the infrared @ 2.7, 4.3 and 15 microns (of which 15 is the major part), which is only about 8% of what the Earth radiates. The other 92% is invisible to CO2. And at 410 parts per million it also means every molecule of atmospheric CO2 is surrounded by just over 2400 molecules of non-CO2. Think of a "blanket" with the (single) thread surrounded by that much empty space or a screen with openings 2400x that of the wire. Neither is going to trap anything. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:27    Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:16)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:10)     Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:05)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:01)         Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:58)             Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,13:55)               Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:45) OK, so there isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, traps heat. There isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, makes it hotter. There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. Joke is really on a roll today! Excess CO2 doesn't keep heat in, it just makes the average temperature be warmer for longer. You can't make up this kind of stupidity folks, you just can't.   So tiny timmy still cannot read for comprehension. Figures There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. It doesn't increase the temps. It just delays the cooling enough to skew the average temp. But that is moot as you are too stupid to understand that Christ what an idiot. "CO2 doesn't help retain heat, it just makes the average temperature be warmer". You're a pearl Joke, a real pearl!   And yes, dipshit, if the daily temp stays @ 70 for an hour longer then that skews the daily average. It isn't as if the temp would be 68 in the absence of CO2. More Joke gold! Now the extra IR energy the CO2 traps only warms the air at sunset to make the average stay higher longer.  It doesn't do anything to the air temperature during the rest of the day. How do the CO2 molecules tell time Joke?  Do they have little wrist watches?   What an idiot.     What "extra IR energy", asshole? Ask the asshole who typed this "CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions." Yes Joke, that asshole is you. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:34    Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:17) Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. You're really outdoing yourself today Joke. Now extra retained heat doesn't make the atmosphere warmer than if it wasn't retained, it just makes it appear warmer by making the temperature higher.   How does the extra heat know to only raise the temperature at sunset Joke?  Why doesn't the extra heat cause higher temperatures the rest of the day?  Is the IR only reradiated between 6 and 8 PM?   I would say you couldn't be a bigger ignoramus if you tried but we've learned not to underestimate the depths of your scientific ignorance and stupidity. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:35    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:27) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:16)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:10)     Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:05)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:01)           Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:58)               Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,13:55)               Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:45) OK, so there isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, traps heat. There isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, makes it hotter. There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. Joke is really on a roll today! Excess CO2 doesn't keep heat in, it just makes the average temperature be warmer for longer. You can't make up this kind of stupidity folks, you just can't.   :D So tiny timmy still cannot read for comprehension. Figures There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. It doesn't increase the temps. It just delays the cooling enough to skew the average temp. But that is moot as you are too stupid to understand that Christ what an idiot. "CO2 doesn't help retain heat, it just makes the average temperature be warmer". You're a pearl Joke, a real pearl!   :D And yes, dipshit, if the daily temp stays @ 70 for an hour longer then that skews the daily average. It isn't as if the temp would be 68 in the absence of CO2. More Joke gold! Now the extra IR energy the CO2 traps only warms the air at sunset to make the average stay higher longer.  It doesn't do anything to the air temperature during the rest of the day. How do the CO2 molecules tell time Joke?  Do they have little wrist watches?   What an idiot.    :D What "extra IR energy", asshole? Ask the asshole who typed this "CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions." Yes Joke, that asshole is you. What? There isn't anything in what I posted that suggests "extra IR energy". As I said you are just a desperate retard. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:37    Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:35) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:27)   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:16)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:10)       Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:05)           Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:01)             Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:58)                 Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,13:55)                 Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:45) OK, so there isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, traps heat. There isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, makes it hotter. There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. Joke is really on a roll today! Excess CO2 doesn't keep heat in, it just makes the average temperature be warmer for longer. You can't make up this kind of stupidity folks, you just can't.   So tiny timmy still cannot read for comprehension. Figures There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. It doesn't increase the temps. It just delays the cooling enough to skew the average temp. But that is moot as you are too stupid to understand that Christ what an idiot. "CO2 doesn't help retain heat, it just makes the average temperature be warmer". You're a pearl Joke, a real pearl!   And yes, dipshit, if the daily temp stays @ 70 for an hour longer then that skews the daily average. It isn't as if the temp would be 68 in the absence of CO2. More Joke gold! Now the extra IR energy the CO2 traps only warms the air at sunset to make the average stay higher longer.  It doesn't do anything to the air temperature during the rest of the day. How do the CO2 molecules tell time Joke?  Do they have little wrist watches?   What an idiot.     What "extra IR energy", asshole? Ask the asshole who typed this "CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions." Yes Joke, that asshole is you. What? There isn't anything in what I posted that suggests "extra IR energy". As I said you are just a desperate retard. You really stuck your foot in your mouth with this one Chubs.  A pretty good trick considering how deeply you have your head shoved up your ass.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:37    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:34) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:17) Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. You're really outdoing yourself today Joke. Now extra retained heat doesn't make the atmosphere warmer than if it wasn't retained, it just makes it appear warmer by making the temperature higher.  :D How does the extra heat know to only raise the temperature at sunset Joke?  Why doesn't the extra heat cause higher temperatures the rest of the day?  Is the IR only reradiated between 6 and 8 PM?   I would say you couldn't be a bigger ignoramus if you tried but we've learned not to underestimate the depths of your scientific ignorance and stupidity. No, moron, it does NOT make the temperature higher. What extra heat, asshole? Again, when the day time temp of 70 is kept at 70 for an extra hour that alone makes the daily average temperature higher- without an increase in temps. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:38    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:37) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:35)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:27)   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:16)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:10)         Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:05)             Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:01)             Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:58)                 Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,13:55)                   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:45) OK, so there isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, traps heat. There isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, makes it hotter. There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. Joke is really on a roll today! Excess CO2 doesn't keep heat in, it just makes the average temperature be warmer for longer. You can't make up this kind of stupidity folks, you just can't.   :D So tiny timmy still cannot read for comprehension. Figures There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. It doesn't increase the temps. It just delays the cooling enough to skew the average temp. But that is moot as you are too stupid to understand that Christ what an idiot. "CO2 doesn't help retain heat, it just makes the average temperature be warmer". You're a pearl Joke, a real pearl!   :D And yes, dipshit, if the daily temp stays @ 70 for an hour longer then that skews the daily average. It isn't as if the temp would be 68 in the absence of CO2. More Joke gold! Now the extra IR energy the CO2 traps only warms the air at sunset to make the average stay higher longer.  It doesn't do anything to the air temperature during the rest of the day. How do the CO2 molecules tell time Joke?  Do they have little wrist watches?   What an idiot.    :D What "extra IR energy", asshole? Ask the asshole who typed this "CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions." Yes Joke, that asshole is you. What? There isn't anything in what I posted that suggests "extra IR energy". As I said you are just a desperate retard. You really stuck your foot in your mouth with this one Chubs.  A pretty good trick considering how deeply you have your head shoved up your ass.   :D What a shit-eating coward you are, timmy. Too stupid to understand science and too chicken-shit to respond to what is actually posted -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:38    CO2 does not cause an increase in temperatures. That is because the earth is NOT a greenhouse and it is not a car with its windows up. Do weather forecasters have to know the CO2 content before making their forecast? No. Why? Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. That is a fact. Only morons think that CO2 causes higher temps. If that were true then every day we should see record highs as we have record highs of atmospheric CO2. CO2 only absorbs and emits the infrared @ 2.7, 4.3 and 15 microns (of which 15 is the major part), which is only about 8% of what the Earth radiates. The other 92% is invisible to CO2. And at 410 parts per million it also means every molecule of atmospheric CO2 is surrounded by just over 2400 molecules of non-CO2. Think of a "blanket" with the (single) thread surrounded by that much empty space or a screen with openings 2400x that of the wire. Neither is going to trap anything. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:40    Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:38)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:37)     Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:35)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:27)       Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:16)           Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:10)             Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:05)                 Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:01)                 Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:58)                     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,13:55)                       Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:45) OK, so there isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, traps heat. There isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, makes it hotter. There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. Joke is really on a roll today! Excess CO2 doesn't keep heat in, it just makes the average temperature be warmer for longer. You can't make up this kind of stupidity folks, you just can't.   So tiny timmy still cannot read for comprehension. Figures There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. It doesn't increase the temps. It just delays the cooling enough to skew the average temp. But that is moot as you are too stupid to understand that Christ what an idiot. "CO2 doesn't help retain heat, it just makes the average temperature be warmer". You're a pearl Joke, a real pearl!   And yes, dipshit, if the daily temp stays @ 70 for an hour longer then that skews the daily average. It isn't as if the temp would be 68 in the absence of CO2. More Joke gold! Now the extra IR energy the CO2 traps only warms the air at sunset to make the average stay higher longer.  It doesn't do anything to the air temperature during the rest of the day. How do the CO2 molecules tell time Joke?  Do they have little wrist watches?   What an idiot.     What "extra IR energy", asshole? Ask the asshole who typed this "CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions." Yes Joke, that asshole is you. What? There isn't anything in what I posted that suggests "extra IR energy". As I said you are just a desperate retard. You really stuck your foot in your mouth with this one Chubs.  A pretty good trick considering how deeply you have your head shoved up your ass.   What a shit-eating coward you are, timmy. Too stupid to understand science and too chicken-shit to respond to what is actually posted Chubs: "CO2 doesn't make it warmer, it just appears warmer because the temperature rises".                 -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:51    Joke doesn't even know how a blanket works, but he is confident that CO2 doesn't act as a blanket.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,14:56    Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,12:37) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:34) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:17) Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. You're really outdoing yourself today Joke. Now extra retained heat doesn't make the atmosphere warmer than if it wasn't retained, it just makes it appear warmer by making the temperature higher.  :D How does the extra heat know to only raise the temperature at sunset Joke?  Why doesn't the extra heat cause higher temperatures the rest of the day?  Is the IR only reradiated between 6 and 8 PM?   I would say you couldn't be a bigger ignoramus if you tried but we've learned not to underestimate the depths of your scientific ignorance and stupidity. No, moron, it does NOT make the temperature higher. What extra heat, asshole? Again, when the day time temp of 70 is kept at 70 for an extra hour that alone makes the daily average temperature higher- without an increase in temps. Oh for crying out loud, Occam's Aftershave, get a grip.   It's obvious.  The average temperature rises.  But the temperature doesn't.  Average temperature and temperature are independent quantities.  Joemodynamics 101. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,16:00    Re "Average temperature and temperature are independent quantities." Ah well, it's a matter of degree.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 18 2018,22:24    Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,20:09) Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,11:53) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,19:24)   Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,10:50)   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,18:11)       Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,09:38)       Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,16:53)         Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2018,15:26) Same ol Joe. Still incompetent at thermodynamics. Hey Joe have you figured out yet how if CO2 reemits radiation randomly, that's pointed toward earth ~half the time? Same ole piece of shit coward- can only spew false accusations and can never support them. It doesn't matter which way the CO2 re-emits the energy. CO2 @ 410 PPM does NOT trap any heat and definitely does NOT act like a blanket Good to see you back trolling again Joe. So you never studied thermodynamics, fine, your opinion counts for nothing. How old was your mother when she had you Joe.? In her 50's? And did she ever tell you who your father was? Could she even remember? Good to see that you are still an asshole loser, ke. So you are ignorant of all science, fine, your opinion counts for nothing, loser. How old was your sister when she had you, ke? Twelve? Your daddy was a bust pervert My guess Joe is your mother had you when she was in her early 40's. Lets say 43. Which  means you were born around 1960 and are now in your late fifties or early sixties. Given that you show absolutely zero evidence of attentiveness in any high school science classes indicates you either never attended a high school or were home schooled or suffered major brain trauma around that time.....say 1975? How did you get into Ag College? Bribery? Whatever, loser. It is obvious that you are a scientifically illiterate asshole. So which is it Joe? Born too late or stupid as a result? Got any brothers and sisters? Were you the last of the litter? Which is it? Both- you are a loser and a scientifically illiterate asshole. Or was your mother 18 when she had you Joe? Which would make you 83. What was your top subject in your final year at school (grade 8) Home Economics? Did your school have a dirt floor and were there any text books? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:06    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:40) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:38)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:37)     Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:35)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:27)         Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:16)             Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:10)             Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:05)                 Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:01)                   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:58)                       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,13:55)                       Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,13:45) OK, so there isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, traps heat. There isn't any evidence that CO2, @ 410 PPM, makes it hotter. There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. Joke is really on a roll today! Excess CO2 doesn't keep heat in, it just makes the average temperature be warmer for longer. You can't make up this kind of stupidity folks, you just can't.   :D So tiny timmy still cannot read for comprehension. Figures There is evidence that CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions. That allows the atmosphere to stay warmer for a longer period of time and because of that making the average temperature of the day a little warmer. It doesn't increase the temps. It just delays the cooling enough to skew the average temp. But that is moot as you are too stupid to understand that Christ what an idiot. "CO2 doesn't help retain heat, it just makes the average temperature be warmer". You're a pearl Joke, a real pearl!   :D And yes, dipshit, if the daily temp stays @ 70 for an hour longer then that skews the daily average. It isn't as if the temp would be 68 in the absence of CO2. More Joke gold! Now the extra IR energy the CO2 traps only warms the air at sunset to make the average stay higher longer.  It doesn't do anything to the air temperature during the rest of the day. How do the CO2 molecules tell time Joke?  Do they have little wrist watches?   What an idiot.    :D What "extra IR energy", asshole? Ask the asshole who typed this "CO2 delays a very small portion or IR from leaving the atmosphere by absorbing it and re-emitting it in various directions." Yes Joke, that asshole is you. What? There isn't anything in what I posted that suggests "extra IR energy". As I said you are just a desperate retard. You really stuck your foot in your mouth with this one Chubs.  A pretty good trick considering how deeply you have your head shoved up your ass.   :D What a shit-eating coward you are, timmy. Too stupid to understand science and too chicken-shit to respond to what is actually posted Chubs: "CO2 doesn't make it warmer, :D    :D    :D    :D    :D What? CO2 does not make the temperature rise, moron. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:07    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 18 2018,14:51) Joke doesn't even know how a blanket works, but he is confident that CO2 doesn't act as a blanket. Acartia the coward is too stupid to make a case that CO2, at 410PPM, acts like a blanket. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:09    Quote (JohnW @ July 18 2018,14:56) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,12:37) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 18 2018,14:34)   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,14:17) Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. You're really outdoing yourself today Joke. Now extra retained heat doesn't make the atmosphere warmer than if it wasn't retained, it just makes it appear warmer by making the temperature higher.  :D How does the extra heat know to only raise the temperature at sunset Joke?  Why doesn't the extra heat cause higher temperatures the rest of the day?  Is the IR only reradiated between 6 and 8 PM?   I would say you couldn't be a bigger ignoramus if you tried but we've learned not to underestimate the depths of your scientific ignorance and stupidity. No, moron, it does NOT make the temperature higher. What extra heat, asshole? Again, when the day time temp of 70 is kept at 70 for an extra hour that alone makes the daily average temperature higher- without an increase in temps. Oh for crying out loud, Occam's Aftershave, get a grip.   It's obvious.  The average temperature rises.  But the temperature doesn't.  Average temperature and temperature are independent quantities.  Joemodynamics 101. Again, for the learning impaired: On any given day if the temperature does not drop as fast as it could then the average temperature is also skewed. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:10    CO2 does not cause an increase in temperatures. That is because the earth is NOT a greenhouse and it is not a car with its windows up. Do weather forecasters have to know the CO2 content before making their forecast? No. Why? Because CO2 does NOT cause an increase in temps. It just causes the heat to stay around a little longer. That alone is enough to skew the average daily temps making it appear warmer. That is a fact. Only morons think that CO2 causes higher temps. If that were true then every day we should see record highs as we have record highs of atmospheric CO2. CO2 only absorbs and emits the infrared @ 2.7, 4.3 and 15 microns (of which 15 is the major part), which is only about 8% of what the Earth radiates. The other 92% is invisible to CO2. And at 410 parts per million it also means every molecule of atmospheric CO2 is surrounded by just over 2400 molecules of non-CO2. Think of a "blanket" with the (single) thread surrounded by that much empty space or a screen with openings 2400x that of the wire. Neither is going to trap anything. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:11    Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,22:24) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,20:09) Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,11:53)   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,19:24)   Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,10:50)     Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,18:11)       Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,09:38)         Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,16:53)         Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2018,15:26) Same ol Joe. Still incompetent at thermodynamics. Hey Joe have you figured out yet how if CO2 reemits radiation randomly, that's pointed toward earth ~half the time? Same ole piece of shit coward- can only spew false accusations and can never support them. It doesn't matter which way the CO2 re-emits the energy. CO2 @ 410 PPM does NOT trap any heat and definitely does NOT act like a blanket Good to see you back trolling again Joe. So you never studied thermodynamics, fine, your opinion counts for nothing. How old was your mother when she had you Joe.? In her 50's? And did she ever tell you who your father was? Could she even remember? Good to see that you are still an asshole loser, ke. So you are ignorant of all science, fine, your opinion counts for nothing, loser. How old was your sister when she had you, ke? Twelve? Your daddy was a bust pervert My guess Joe is your mother had you when she was in her early 40's. Lets say 43. Which  means you were born around 1960 and are now in your late fifties or early sixties. Given that you show absolutely zero evidence of attentiveness in any high school science classes indicates you either never attended a high school or were home schooled or suffered major brain trauma around that time.....say 1975? How did you get into Ag College? Bribery? Whatever, loser. It is obvious that you are a scientifically illiterate asshole. So which is it Joe? Born too late or stupid as a result? Got any brothers and sisters? Were you the last of the litter? Which is it? Both- you are a loser and a scientifically illiterate asshole. Or was your mother 18 when she had you Joe? Which would make you 83. What was your top subject in your final year at school (grade 8) Home Economics? Did your school have a dirt floor and were there any text books? So ke's mother, sister and wife are the same person. That explains the mental issues -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:20    Quote (Patrick @ July 10 2018,14:56) Quote (stevestory @ July 10 2018,15:37) Do you think crackpots ever suspect they're crackpots? That's an interesting question.  I suppose that 80,000 words aren't enough to provide time to think "Do I sound like a crank?" Similarly, Joe took an interest in me when I was an admin at TSZ (see the four or five emails from Frank Huggins I preserved for posterity starting here).  I do wonder, after how many threatening emails might one become introspective enough to ponder "Am I behaving rationally?" What threats? Or are you also a cowardly liar? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:22    Quote (stevestory @ July 09 2018,15:59) Quote 75 ET July 9, 2018 at 8:19 am jdk does not understand science nor how science operates. Says the guy who doesn't understand high school math, about the NCSE member  :D  :D  :D The NCSE says that evolutionism is science so clearly they don't know what science is. And I understand math better than you ever will. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:25    Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:09) Again, for the learning impaired: On any given day if the temperature does not drop as fast as it could then the average temperature is also skewed. Physics pop quiz for Joke! Start with a large pot of room temperature water.  Put in on the stove and turn the burner to its lowest setting, 1/10.  The water temperature rises until it reaches equilibrium temperature, say 140 deg. F.   Now you add extra energy by turning the burner to a higher setting, 2/10.  What happens to the water? 1. It goes up in temperature until it reaches a new equilibrium point, say 160 deg. F. 2. It stays at 140 deg F all day, then stays at 140 deg. F for a few extra hours after the burner is turned off. Go ahead Joke, and please explain your answer. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:28    Acartia's ignorance, easily exposed: http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....-226510 Quote The design hypothesis can never fail because ID refuses to postulate any mechanism or the nature of the designer. Only a complete moron would say that- enter Acartia. Isaac Newton's four rules of scientific reasoning demonstrate exactly how the design inference can be falsified. All one has to do is demonstrate that stochastic processes, ie blind and mindless processes, can produce what ID says is intelligently designed. Do that and Occam's razor slices off the Designer requirement. That is why to falsify ID all you need to do is step up and demonstrate that your proposed non-telic mechanisms, like natural selection and drift, can produce the bio-complexity and diversity observed. Don't blame us for your total failure. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:30    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 19 2018,09:25) Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:09) Again, for the learning impaired: On any given day if the temperature does not drop as fast as it could then the average temperature is also skewed. Physics pop quiz for Joke! Start with a large pot of room temperature water.  Put in on the stove and turn the burner to its lowest setting, 1/10.  The water temperature rises until it reaches equilibrium temperature, say 140 deg. F.   Now you add extra energy by turning the burner to a higher setting, 2/10.  What happens to the water? 1. It goes up in temperature until it reaches a new equilibrium point, say 160 deg. F. 2. It stays at 140 deg F all day, then stays at 140 deg. F for a few extra hours after the burner is turned off. Go ahead Joke, and please explain your answer. What does this have to do with CO2 and what I posted? Explain it or admit that you are a fucking desperate and illiterate coward -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:30    Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:20)   Quote (Patrick @ July 10 2018,14:56)     Quote (stevestory @ July 10 2018,15:37) Do you think crackpots ever suspect they're crackpots? That's an interesting question.  I suppose that 80,000 words aren't enough to provide time to think "Do I sound like a crank?" Similarly, Joe took an interest in me when I was an admin at TSZ (see the four or five emails from Frank Huggins I preserved for posterity starting here).  I do wonder, after how many threatening emails might one become introspective enough to ponder "Am I behaving rationally?" What threats? Or are you also a cowardly liar? Joke's always been the classic "internet tough guy" blowhard coward.  Even got fired once for making physical threats from his company computer.   Then whenever someone called his bluff he gave out a phony address where to find him.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:31    Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,17:11) Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,22:24) Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,20:09)   Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,11:53)   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,19:24)     Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,10:50)     Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,18:11)         Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,09:38)         Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,16:53)           Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2018,15:26) Same ol Joe. Still incompetent at thermodynamics. Hey Joe have you figured out yet how if CO2 reemits radiation randomly, that's pointed toward earth ~half the time? Same ole piece of shit coward- can only spew false accusations and can never support them. It doesn't matter which way the CO2 re-emits the energy. CO2 @ 410 PPM does NOT trap any heat and definitely does NOT act like a blanket Good to see you back trolling again Joe. So you never studied thermodynamics, fine, your opinion counts for nothing. How old was your mother when she had you Joe.? In her 50's? And did she ever tell you who your father was? Could she even remember? Good to see that you are still an asshole loser, ke. So you are ignorant of all science, fine, your opinion counts for nothing, loser. How old was your sister when she had you, ke? Twelve? Your daddy was a bust pervert My guess Joe is your mother had you when she was in her early 40's. Lets say 43. Which  means you were born around 1960 and are now in your late fifties or early sixties. Given that you show absolutely zero evidence of attentiveness in any high school science classes indicates you either never attended a high school or were home schooled or suffered major brain trauma around that time.....say 1975? How did you get into Ag College? Bribery? Whatever, loser. It is obvious that you are a scientifically illiterate asshole. So which is it Joe? Born too late or stupid as a result? Got any brothers and sisters? Were you the last of the litter? Which is it? Both- you are a loser and a scientifically illiterate asshole. Or was your mother 18 when she had you Joe? Which would make you 83. What was your top subject in your final year at school (grade 8) Home Economics? Did your school have a dirt floor and were there any text books? So ke's mother, sister and wife are the same person. That explains the mental issues Tell us more about your sister Joe. Now that we know you were only 50 when you were in grade 8 and your mother died did that affect your childhood in any negative way? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:31    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 19 2018,09:30) Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:20)     Quote (Patrick @ July 10 2018,14:56)     Quote (stevestory @ July 10 2018,15:37) Do you think crackpots ever suspect they're crackpots? That's an interesting question.  I suppose that 80,000 words aren't enough to provide time to think "Do I sound like a crank?" Similarly, Joe took an interest in me when I was an admin at TSZ (see the four or five emails from Frank Huggins I preserved for posterity starting here).  I do wonder, after how many threatening emails might one become introspective enough to ponder "Am I behaving rationally?" What threats? Or are you also a cowardly liar? Joke's always been the classic "internet tough guy" blowhard coward.  Even got fired once for making physical threats from his company computer.   Then whenever someone called his bluff he gave out a phony address where to find him.   :D And more lies from the cowardly loser timmy Horton. I guess that is the best you can do, eh, coward? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:32    Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:30)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 19 2018,09:25)     Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:09) Again, for the learning impaired: On any given day if the temperature does not drop as fast as it could then the average temperature is also skewed. Physics pop quiz for Joke! Start with a large pot of room temperature water.  Put in on the stove and turn the burner to its lowest setting, 1/10.  The water temperature rises until it reaches equilibrium temperature, say 140 deg. F.   Now you add extra energy by turning the burner to a higher setting, 2/10.  What happens to the water? 1. It goes up in temperature until it reaches a new equilibrium point, say 160 deg. F. 2. It stays at 140 deg F all day, then stays at 140 deg. F for a few extra hours after the burner is turned off. Go ahead Joke, and please explain your answer. What does this have to do with CO2 and what I posted? Explain it or admit that you are a fucking desperate and illiterate coward Don't be a chickenshit Joke.  Answer the question.  Are you too stupid to figure out the answer? -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:32    Quote (k.e.. @ July 19 2018,09:31) Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,17:11) Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,22:24)   Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,20:09)   Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,11:53)     Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,19:24)     Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,10:50)       Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,18:11)         Quote (k.e.. @ July 18 2018,09:38)           Quote (Joe G @ July 18 2018,16:53)           Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2018,15:26) Same ol Joe. Still incompetent at thermodynamics. Hey Joe have you figured out yet how if CO2 reemits radiation randomly, that's pointed toward earth ~half the time? Same ole piece of shit coward- can only spew false accusations and can never support them. It doesn't matter which way the CO2 re-emits the energy. CO2 @ 410 PPM does NOT trap any heat and definitely does NOT act like a blanket Good to see you back trolling again Joe. So you never studied thermodynamics, fine, your opinion counts for nothing. How old was your mother when she had you Joe.? In her 50's? And did she ever tell you who your father was? Could she even remember? Good to see that you are still an asshole loser, ke. So you are ignorant of all science, fine, your opinion counts for nothing, loser. How old was your sister when she had you, ke? Twelve? Your daddy was a bust pervert My guess Joe is your mother had you when she was in her early 40's. Lets say 43. Which  means you were born around 1960 and are now in your late fifties or early sixties. Given that you show absolutely zero evidence of attentiveness in any high school science classes indicates you either never attended a high school or were home schooled or suffered major brain trauma around that time.....say 1975? How did you get into Ag College? Bribery? Whatever, loser. It is obvious that you are a scientifically illiterate asshole. So which is it Joe? Born too late or stupid as a result? Got any brothers and sisters? Were you the last of the litter? Which is it? Both- you are a loser and a scientifically illiterate asshole. Or was your mother 18 when she had you Joe? Which would make you 83. What was your top subject in your final year at school (grade 8) Home Economics? Did your school have a dirt floor and were there any text books? So ke's mother, sister and wife are the same person. That explains the mental issues Tell us more about your sister Joe. Now that we know you were only 50 when you were in grade 8 and your mother died did that affect your childhood in any negative way? Yes, ke fuck's his sister, which is also his mother and wife -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 19 2018,09:33    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 19 2018,09:32) Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:30)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 19 2018,09:25)     Quote (Joe G @ July 19 2018,09:09) Again, for the learning impaired: On any given day if the temperature does not drop as fast as it could then the average temperature is also skewed. Physics pop quiz for Joke! Start with a large pot of room temperature water.  Put in on the stove and turn the burner to its lowest setting, 1/10.  The water temperature rises until it reaches equilibrium temperature, say 140 deg. F.   Now you add extra energy by turning the burner to a higher setting, 2/10.  What happens to the water? 1. It goes up in temperature until it reaches a new equilibrium point, say 160 deg. F. 2. It stays at 140 deg F all day, then stays at 140 deg. F for a few extra hours after the burner is turned off. Go ahead Joke, and please explain your answer. What does this have to do with CO2 and what I posted? Explain it or admit that you are a fucking desperate and illiterate coward Don't be a chickenshit Joke.  Answer the question.  Are you too stupid to figure out the answer? You are the chicken shit, timmy. Explain what this has to do with atmospheric CO2 or admit that you are a shit-eating faggot -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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