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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2007,13:10    okay Quote stevestory this is where all your messages are stored. You can read, delete, reply and save messages here. You have 0 total messages in all your folders. You can receive and store another 80 messages until your folders are full. So that should last at least a week.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2007,13:11    Quote (stevestory @ July 03 2007,19:10) okay Quote stevestory this is where all your messages are stored. You can read, delete, reply and save messages here. You have 0 total messages in all your folders. You can receive and store another 80 messages until your folders are full. So that should last at least a week. DO you really get that much PM mail? Wow. Maybe it was your opening of application for moderator that did it! ;-) Louis -------------- Bye.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2007,13:17    The mailbox fills up usually every week or two. People generally do a good job working out problems discreetly, before they become bigger problems. Actually, nobody has applied to be moderator. If anyone wants to make the case they'd be a good moderator, please send me a message explaining why, and we will consider it.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2007,13:25    Quote (stevestory @ July 03 2007,13:17) The mailbox fills up usually every week or two. People generally do a good job working out problems discreetly, before they become bigger problems. Actually, nobody has applied to be moderator. If anyone wants to make the case they'd be a good moderator, please send me a message explaining why, and we will consider it. Steve and I will be dueling with pistols at dawn.* *We hope to prevail over the pistols. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2007,14:20    "I'm with the BANNED" graphics... Since many regular commenters here have tried to post comments  on IDC-advocate forums and have ended up being banned from those places, the graphic plays off the ability for IDC skeptics to gather here and discuss it fully. [Who first suggested this bit of wordplay? They should get a mention here.] I've put one of these to use on the right-hand side of the Antievolution.org main page. Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on July 03 2007,15:21 -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2007,14:21    Nice - perhaps you might want some text to explain the significance to new folks? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2007,14:23    Quote (Louis @ July 03 2007,13:11)   Quote (stevestory @ July 03 2007,19:10) okay     Quote stevestory this is where all your messages are stored. You can read, delete, reply and save messages here. You have 0 total messages in all your folders. You can receive and store another 80 messages until your folders are full. So that should last at least a week. DO you really get that much PM mail? Wow. Maybe it was your opening of application for moderator that did it! Nah, it was when he announced THIS:   Quote I've had relationships with a wide array of women. Rich, poor, smart, dumb, beautiful, ugly.* The only deal breaker is, No Fundies. (friend of mine used to say, "big, small, short or tall, I Love Em All)   Now the chicks are all over him like white on rice.   -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2007,18:39    The hyperlink button does not appear to work with Vista. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 09 2007,06:36    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ July 03 2007,14:20) "I'm with the BANNED" graphics... Since many regular commenters here have tried to post comments  on IDC-advocate forums and have ended up being banned from those places, the graphic plays off the ability for IDC skeptics to gather here and discuss it fully. [Who first suggested this bit of wordplay? They should get a mention here.] (images snipped) I've put one of these to use on the right-hand side of the Antievolution.org main page. I believe that was Kristine, but I don't have a link handy. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,08:30    I've noticed that the AtBC forums don't Google. For example, if I search for Zachriel, "paternal family tree" it comes back empty—even though it is a term I have used repeatedly on this forum. The reason for this is to check if I have previously posted on an issue, and if so, to provide a link rather than a verbatim rehash. I understand this is a rather informal venue, but I do try to avoid boring repetition (though I suppose some is inevitable due to the nature of the discussion). -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,09:06    Unfortunately, many if not most bulletin board software packages use URLs full of various parameters, and Google doesn't seem to like handling that sort of thing. Added: I did find a thread about hacking ikonBoard to be search-engine friendly. When I get some spare time, I'll look into that. Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on July 25 2007,09:22 -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,09:55    No problem. I was just curious. I would find it to be a significant enhancement, though. -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,10:27    Quote (Zachriel @ July 25 2007,15:55) No problem. I was just curious. I would find it to be a significant enhancement, though. Ditto Zachriel, on all counts. Oh and Wes, thanks for the brief background as to why it doesn't work. As the world's most computer illiterate scientist I just blamed it on gremlins. ;-) Louis -------------- Bye.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,11:25    I'm not sure that I understand it all, but basic redirection appears to be working. I've listed that link on the main AE page, so search engine bots should run across it sometime. Apparently, the search engine bots don't have Javascript capabilities, and see plain text, while your browser does, and will be redirected to the usual view. Added: Just tried it with Lynx, and I'm not seeing anything to index in the view that comes up. Apparently I need to do a bit more hacking before this is ready to play. Added: I think I have it working now. At least Lynx can browse the pages via the "index" representation. Added: The logs show that Yahoo and Google bots are beginning to spider the site. Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on July 25 2007,19:16 -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,21:07    I've figured out how to make a sidebar for the board. What sort of things could populate a sidebar here that people would find useful to have handy, and what other things might just be considered annoying? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 25 2007,23:19    A link bar would be nice.  Links say to PT, talkorigins, various sciencebloggers, Science, Nature, UDoJ, Tangled Bank, NCSE, NASA, New Scientist, y'know, all the good stuff that would be nice to have handy. ... what? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Darth Robo Posts: 148 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 27 2007,12:08    But now it's all thinner!   Everywhere is changing their layouts!  I swear, it's like going to your local shop only to see them change everything 'round every coupla weeks! -------------- "Commentary: How would you like to be the wholly-owned servant to an organic meatbag? It's demeaning! If, uh, you weren't one yourself, I mean..."

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 27 2007,12:16    Quote (Lou FCD @ July 25 2007,23:19) A link bar would be nice.  Links say to PT, talkorigins, various sciencebloggers, Science, Nature, UDoJ, Tangled Bank, NCSE, NASA, New Scientist, y'know, all the good stuff that would be nice to have handy. ... what? :D Links to the usual antiscience suspects (UD, OE, FTK, Telic Thoughts, etc.), while not necessarily "nice", would be useful.   Why not link to ISCID also, so we can keep up to date with all their publications. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 27 2007,12:42    Quote (JohnW @ July 27 2007,12:16)   Quote (Lou FCD @ July 25 2007,23:19) A link bar would be nice.  Links say to PT, talkorigins, various sciencebloggers, Science, Nature, UDoJ, Tangled Bank, NCSE, NASA, New Scientist, y'know, all the good stuff that would be nice to have handy. ... what? :D Links to the usual antiscience suspects (UD, OE, FTK, Telic Thoughts, etc.), while not necessarily "nice", would be useful.   Why not link to ISCID also, so we can keep up to date with all their publications. That would be a Tardroll ... or Tardbar. -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 27 2007,13:48    I hereby cast a vote against the sidebar.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 27 2007,13:54    Re "I hereby cast a vote against the sidebar." Me too. It scrunches up the display of the BB contents. Henry

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 28 2007,00:05    Having the links and books at the bottom of the page complicates navigating there - instead of just hitting the END key to scroll down for newest posts, now I've got to scroll. Suggestion: Have these links and books appear on index pages only. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: July 28 2007,05:35    The point was to have links available for quick reference and copying into comments, which means that appearance only on index pages would make it precisely backwards from the intent. What I've done is added a link at the bottom for opening a page of "Useful Links". You can right-click in your browser to have that open in a new window, and then be able to flip between the "Add Reply" form and the links page. Of course, I'll need to add a bunch more links for this to be as useful as possible. Please drop links into this thread as suggestions. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,05:01    I'm sure we've all noticed the recent upsurge in threads about products to make willies work better. Out of curiosity, are they all coming from similar accounts/IPs? Seems interesting that we should merit such attention so suddenly. Louis -------------- Bye.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,22:12    CafePress shop section for "After the Bar Closes" Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Aug. 15 2007,09:51 -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2007,15:48    Any particular reason for the influx of spammers on this site? -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2007,16:31    Probably, but the hard part is getting hold of him/them to ask what it is.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2007,16:43    They've just shifted from other sections of the board to this one. They've been posting junk for a long time. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2007,13:33    Not sure if it means anything, but it looks to me like the extraneous question marks pop up when the text has two or more spaces in a row. If nothing else, it would tell you who learned to type on an honest-to-goodness typewriter. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2007,14:41    Quote (carlsonjok @ Aug. 18 2007,13:33) Not sure if it means anything, but it looks to me like the extraneous question marks pop up when the text has two or more spaces in a row. If nothing else, it would tell you who learned to type on an honest-to-goodness typewriter. **raises hand** It wasn't even an electric typewriter. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

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