stevestory
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| Quote | KF On False, Even Shameful, Comparisions
September 17, 2015 Posted by Barry Arrington under Off Topic
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In the thread to a prior post I wrote:
| Quote | | The documents constituting the New Testament are vouchsafed with the blood of the martyrs. Nothing else comes remotely close. |
Orloog scoffs and mocks:
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The willingness of an Islamic terrorist to become a martyr of his course isn’t a testament for the existence of 72 virgins waiting for him in the afterlife, it is just shows how severe his belief in their existence is!
Many religions have their martyrs. Doesn’t make them all true.
And again, tell me about the dozens of eye-witnesses of the resurrection who were put to death! |
And in a response that deserves its own OP — if not a full page ad in the New York Times, KF responded. All that follows is his:
Orloog
I think your comparison at 103 is so outrageous that it demands application of the mirror-projection principle. In short, would you like to be read in the way you are projecting there? (Which, is at least one motivation for the principle of charitable reading rather than suspicious reading.)
Let me highlight a basic fact: martyr is the Greek word for witness.
It is the Apostles, other early martyrs and confessors who — by peacefully insisting on testifying to what they knew to be true in the face of dungeon, fire, sword and worse, thus literally sealing their testimony with their blood shed by judicial murder or at the hands of vigilantism — rewrote the proper meaning.
In short, solemnly aware that they faced the eternal judgement of God, they refused to recant the eternally freighted truth they knew as eyewitnesses in the first instance.
It is an inexcusable insult to their memory, peaceful sacrifice in witness to truth, and common decency to instantly, invidiously compare such to murderous fanatics who may well be deluded but were in no position to personally directly know the truth of the foundation of Islam.
...(blah blah blah more garbage)
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