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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,13:55   

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SCheesman: The only way to decrease entropy in an open system is to add energy in an intelligent manner.

Quite the contrary. Local entropy decreases whenever a lake freezes over. In an open system, entropy typically decreases as the system loses heat.



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PannenbergOmega: Amen to that.


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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,14:14   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-174237

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Granville Sewell

02/23/2008

2:53 pm
One commenter said “I get the feeling people are PRETENDING not to be sure if he’s joking.” Maybe that is what is going on with “Granville Sewell–Genius or Liar?” But then the question becomes, why are they pretending to take it literally? Answer: that gives them something to attack without addressing the main point. I’m asking if the four fundamental forces of Nature can really create computers, and they’re criticizing me for not capitalizing FORTRAN, and comparing me to a child molester. Just the usual responses to ID arguments from these people.


Spin spin Granville. You've already shot your load as a dishonest tard.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,15:22   

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http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-174237

     
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Granville Sewell

02/23/2008

2:53 pm
One commenter said “I get the feeling people are PRETENDING not to be sure if he’s joking.” Maybe that is what is going on with “Granville Sewell–Genius or Liar?” But then the question becomes, why are they pretending to take it literally? Answer: that gives them something to attack without addressing the main point. I’m asking if the four fundamental forces of Nature can really create computers, and they’re criticizing me for not capitalizing FORTRAN, and comparing me to a child molester. Just the usual responses to ID arguments from these people.


Spin spin Granville. You've already shot your load as a dishonest tard.

Sewell is still tap-dancing and farting.

The comment on Chu-Carroll's blog that most directly addresses the emptiness of Sewell's parody is a counter-parody:

"In the same spirit, I went outside today, picked up some mud and formed it into a humanoid shape. Unfortunately, it didn't come alive and start walking around. I even tried breathing on it! I think this pretty much proves that life on earth couldn't have had a creator - it didn't work for me, so it simply doesn't work" - tinyfrog.

(Also a parody, or perhaps a parable. With as much value as commentary on the issues as Sewell's lame-O parody simulation.)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,15:51   

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DaveTard: Master of the bad analogy

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....re-3084

Davey-o:  
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In computer design engineering yadda yadda yadda

"Computer design engineering"?

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,20:56   

More Good Taste from UD:      
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23 February 2008
Expelled change of release date centers on the dates of Darwin’s birth and death
salamanca
Ben Stein’s Expelled (www.expelledthemovie.com) was originally scheduled to be released on February 12th of this year — Darwin’s (and Abraham Lincoln’s) birthday. The official release date now is the weekend of April 18th. Saturday, April 19th, is the day that Darwin died. Perhaps this shift of dates is not coincidental.

If you’re going to see Expelled opening weekend, think about seeing it on the 19th to celebrate Darwinism’s passing.

There's a very slim chance this isn't a case of juvenile bad taste.  Many Catholic Saint's Days celebrate the day the saint became a martyr.  Maybe he's trying to say Darwin is a saint and martyr.  But I think that the odds of Salamanca not being a juvie prick are way over the Universal Probability Boundary.

  
Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,21:03   

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Why isn’t ALL life extinct? by DaveScot: One method is called a “factory restore”. In this method a protected image of the known working software load from the factory is used to replace the evolved load.

In biology, we call it "replication". If a bacterium makes a bad mistake, there are all sorts of other little copies ready to take its place.


ID prediction #5: some people are big-endian and some people are little endian. I personally am little d'oh-big endian.



I-I-I-I-I Like Big Ends, and I cannot lie!

Nice predictions.

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dochocson



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,21:23   

Dr. Dr. Rev. Dembski suggests that April 19 be dubbed "anti-Darwin Day".

Great idea, but only if we get to change Good Friday to "anti-Christ Day".

Who's with me?

salamanca's post is in questionable taste. I originally read the line as "celebrate Darwin's passing", which would have been really tacky. As it stands, it just reeks of 7th grade "cleverness".

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,21:40   

Hmmm...is larrycranston a less wordy me?

{RB pinches self}

No...Is he my sock puppet?

{RB recalls that he doesn't do sock puppets.}

Larry, we'll be waiting for you with open arms:

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larrycranston
02/23/2008
9:23 pm

Dr. Sewell, here is the full text of the post:

“Did he have to claim to do this in FORTRAN? Makes the rest of us look bad. Of course what do you expect from someone who doesn’t even capitalize it correctly. Unless he meant Fortran 90, but everyone knows if you are going to simulate something totally insane, FORTRAN 77 is the only way to go.”

Please note:

1) It is not a short post. You used the word “quote”, and I am assuming you were referring to the original Scienceblogs post.

2) You failed to cite the quote correctly. Your revision of the author’s post alters its meaning. I am sure that you would agree that when you quote someone else’s work, it should be done properly, and any errors admitted and corrected.


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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,21:56   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 23 2008,22:40)
Hmmm...is larrycranston a less wordy me?

{RB pinches self}

No...Is he my sock puppet?

{RB recalls that he doesn't do sock puppets.}

Larry, we'll be waiting for you with open arms:

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larrycranston
02/23/2008
9:23 pm

Dr. Sewell, here is the full text of the post:

“Did he have to claim to do this in FORTRAN? Makes the rest of us look bad. Of course what do you expect from someone who doesn’t even capitalize it correctly. Unless he meant Fortran 90, but everyone knows if you are going to simulate something totally insane, FORTRAN 77 is the only way to go.”

Please note:

1) It is not a short post. You used the word “quote”, and I am assuming you were referring to the original Scienceblogs post.

2) You failed to cite the quote correctly. Your revision of the author’s post alters its meaning. I am sure that you would agree that when you quote someone else’s work, it should be done properly, and any errors admitted and corrected.

I trust your handy dandy Nixplanatory Filter Detector Thingy is indeed handy.

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dochocson



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2008,23:04   

Okay, I'll fess up. larrycranston is me. I apologize again for posting your fiskings of UD posts under that pseudonym. Unless you guys consider plagiarism as a form of flattery.

I'm just an MD about 20 years removed from doing real science, so I don't have the chops to pick apart a lot of the ID nonsense. I mean, I know it's wrong, but I may not be able to clearly state why.

I started off with larry several months ago trying to play the vapid newcomer, asking "innocent" questions to tweak the faithful. Harder than, I thought, actually.

So after a hiatus, I came back, trying to be more pointed and critical. I'm a little surprised I've lasted this long. My last post in the Sewell thread may earn me the ban hammer, though.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,00:10   

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Why isn’t ALL life extinct? by DaveScot: One method is called a “factory restore”. In this method a protected image of the known working software load from the factory is used to replace the evolved load.

In biology, we call it "replication". If a bacterium makes a bad mistake, there are all sorts of other little copies ready to take its place.


ID prediction #5: some people are big-endian and some people are little endian. I personally am little d'oh-big endian.



I-I-I-I-I Like Big Ends, and I cannot lie!

Nice predictions.

Mmmmmm Tracy .....I like big ends too.......
......oh wait we're not talking about the same thing are we?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,00:27   

Dr Larry said:
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Unless you guys consider plagiarism as a form of flattery.


Flattery?

Absolutely .....and you can quote, misquote, acquire, misadopt, assume, copy, filch, lift, imitate, obtain, pilfer, pirate, plagiarize, simulate, steal, take, use, usurp, bowdlerize, transmutate, misconstrue, pervert, distort, exaggerate, misapprehend, misconceive, misinterpret, misjudge, misread, mistake, mistranslate, misunderstand, bugger up, boggle,  bumble, bungle, butcher, distort, err, flub, fluff, fumble, goof up, gum up, louse up, mar, mend, mess, mess up, misapply, miscalculate, miscompute, misconjecture, mishandle, misjudge, mismanage, muck up, muddle, muff,  patch, ruin, screw up, spoil, wreck anything I say as long as you attribute it to ME!!!!

I want some of that 'I'm as good as *insert idiot scientist here*' appeal to dead male white conservative glory those useless twats at UD are getting.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,01:20   

Quote (dochocson @ Feb. 23 2008,23:04)
Okay, I'll fess up. larrycranston is me.

Yes, but who are you?

You could actually be Denyse O'Leary pretending to be a doctor, who's pretending to be larrycranston on UD.

Yours in peace

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,03:24   

sparc and larrycranston, you are very naughty boys.

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sparc

02/23/2008

11:07 pm

in order to avoid the confusion you should have published your post under the name Botnik and filed it under the tag P-A-R-O-D-Y!!

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larrycranston

02/23/2008

11:51 pm

Well said sparc!

Alternately, one could use a gif of some praying Marines to tag parody posts that might be interpreted as sincere.

Um, if Dave sees that, it'll mean more work for RB.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,07:22   

larrycranston extracted yet another concession from Granville:
 
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Granville Sewell
02/23/2008
11:01 pm
Larry,

You are right, I misquoted him as “He claims to have done this in FORTRAN?” when he actually said “Did he have to claim to do this in FORTRAN?” I have removed the quote altogether, I will try to be more careful in the future.

Sewell's gonna be pissed when he realizes he caved to footwear.

When does he concede that the entire thesis of his post, “'My Failed Simulation' taken literally at scienceblogs," was flat-ass wrong? I see hidden obliviation in the future of this thread.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,08:18   

Granville Sewell asserted that his parody "My Failed Simulation" was taken seriously by commenters at scienceblogs. What we have actually seen is that he grossly mischaracterized that commentary in a way that can only have been deliberate. He has since, to his credit, madly backpedaled.

But he also made a second assertion: Commenters at UD were smarter:
         
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As I recall, only a couple of people at UD, where it was first posted, were confused as to whether or not I was serious...I don’t seem to have raised any doubts among this crowd.

Is that true?

I pulled up the original reference in UD to "My Failed Simulation" and examined the commentary. Here is the remark of some idiot named "DaveScot," who obviously has been taken in:*
         
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DaveScot
09/22/2007
7:23 am

Granville
The problem may be in the initial conditions. How about if you set the initial conditions to the position of all the particles today and then run the model backward in time. Ditch the random number generator altogether. Just think of all the history’s mysteries you could solve by stopping the model at various points in time. It’d be worth the trouble just to find out who really killed JFK. When you get backwards 4 billion years then you will have the right set of initial conditions. At that point you can start running the model forward and do some “what ifs” like testing the “butterfly effect”.

A wiser commenter expressed doubt that the Granville was serious. But that was Jack Krebs. Nevertheless, DaveTard persisted, and managed to make a fool of himself while attempting to brag:
         
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DaveScot
09/22/2007
7:57 am

P.S.
I took a Fortran course in college, naturally, having last been in college in the late 70’s. In a subsequent course on microprocessor architecture the final assignment was to take a uP specification the prof had created on the blackboard during the course and write a simulator for it in Fortran. The final exam was the prof running a program written in the hypothetical machine language through each pupil’s simulator. Out of 20 students only two of us had perfectly working simulators - mine was one of those two. I haven’t used Fortran again in the intervening 30 years but I’m sure I could pick it up again. Programming languages all start looking alike after a while with the possible exception of FIG Forth which is really weird to anyone who doesn’t carry an HP RPN calculator around in a hip holster. I wrote a much larger hardware simulator program in 1981 using Forth. The simulation was of a handheld “GameBoy” predecessor. My job was to produce a hardware simulator so that other programmers could start writing and testing games for the hardware before the hardware was actually available. The hardware, when it became available, had a FIG Forth kernal in it and the games were written in Forth.
So what I’m getting at here is that if you need an extra hand with the solar system simulator don’t be afraid to ask.

Others chimed in:
         
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bornagain77
09/22/2007
8:13 am

I wonder if you simulated complex information being inserted into your from time to time if it would more realistically reflect what we find in the real world?

         
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rrf
09/22/2007
8:47 am

The program needs to continually fork into separate simulations. Most will result in worthless worlds, but eventually one will yield everything we see around us.

Actually, it would be really interesting to distribute Granville’s simulation widely and have a large number of people run it simultaneously and see what kinds of interesting things result. Isn’t that what the SETI folks are doing with the program that runs on other people’s PCs?
What say you, Granville?

Finally, Gil Dodg'em felt compelled to step in to herd the flock in a different direction.
         
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GilDodgen
09/22/2007
10:08 am

...Granville is performing a tongue-in-cheek thought experiment, to demonstrate how absurd certain aspects of Darwinian speculation (oops, theory) are.

DaveScot pretends, "I knew that!"
         
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DaveScot
09/22/2007
10:15 am

Gil
Spoilsport!


The Smoking Gun: Granville Sewell expressed surprise that anyone took his "Failed Simulation" article seriously:
         
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Granville Sewell
09/22/2007
11:11 am

Sorry. It honestly didn’t even occur to me that anyone would think I was trying to pass this “thought-experiment” off as non-fiction, certainly not anyone who read the whole post. But I guess some people didn’t read past the fold. And I didn’t file under humor because I didn’t consider it to be humorous.

There you have it. A significant percentage of commentary on "My Failed Simulation" at UD is clearly that of gullible commenters who were taken in by Sewell - including DaveTard himself. A quick count similar to that performed on the Scienceblogs commentary finds an approximately equal number of gullible and skeptical comments (about seven each), with a larger number that can't be characterized as one or the other. The commentary certainly cannot be characterized as more discerning than that at Scienceblogs, and Granville acknowledged, in his reply, that several UD commenters had been taken in.

Now he has claimed exactly the reverse:
             
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As I recall, only a couple of people at UD, where it was first posted, were confused as to whether or not I was serious (and they were probably only confused because they had not read below the fold). I even added “imaginary” to “friend” to make sure no one misunderstood it. But I have discovered an entire thread at Scienceblogs here where it seems many thought I was claiming to have actually done the simulation. Makes for very entertaining reading; but I don’t seem to have raised any doubts among this crowd.

Once again it can be seen that you are flat-ass wrong, Granville. We saw that you mischaracterized and misquoted the Scienceblogs commentary; here it is plain that you mischaracterized the UD commmentary as well.  

Time to step up with a complete retraction.

*OK, to be fair, Dave is responding tongue somewhat in cheek. I just like calling him an idiot.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,10:31   

It's no good.  Being of Albionic extraction, the name 'Granville' conjures up an entirely different image.  Other Brits will know what I mean
 
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,11:03   

Sparc, your post on the previous page made my day.  Thank you.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,11:33   

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larrycranston

02/23/2008

11:51 pm

Well said sparc!

Alternately, one could use a gif of some praying Marines to tag parody posts that might be interpreted as sincere.

Um, if Dave sees that, it'll mean more work for RB.

Its been disappeared.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,11:35   

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larrycranston

02/23/2008

11:51 pm

Well said sparc!

Alternately, one could use a gif of some praying Marines to tag parody posts that might be interpreted as sincere.


Um, if Dave sees that, it'll mean more work for RB.


larrycranston's comment is already gone

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,13:45   

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larrycranston

02/23/2008

11:51 pm

Well said sparc!

Alternately, one could use a gif of some praying Marines to tag parody posts that might be interpreted as sincere.


Um, if Dave sees that, it'll mean more work for RB.


larrycranston's comment is already gone

That's a relatively rare Surgical One-Post Hidden Obliviation, a product of ridiculative selection. Has larrycranston been silently banninated as well? Dochocson?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,14:20   

Unfortunately, I'm stuck at work, and Websense blocks UD (but not this board).

I will have a look later today and see if I've been banned.

If so, it would be my second banning at UD.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,16:55   

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It's no good.  Being of Albionic extraction, the name 'Granville' conjures up an entirely different image.  Other Brits will know what I mean
 
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Granville: I've got the blood of poets and lovers in my veins.
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Granville!  Go and tidy up the vegetables.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,18:45   

On UD, Granville Sewell wrote...
 
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In fact, that is the problem, everyone says, the problem can’t be this simple, but it is. If only I could figure out a way to use some advanced mathematics in the story, maybe people would take it seriously.

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I find this to be an extremely ironic comment on Dembski's blog.

Dr. Dr. Rev. Dembski is the mathematician who uses -log2(~) > 1 rather than simply saying < 50% for the main ID thesis (definition of specified complexity).

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,18:47   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 23 2008,21:56)
More Good Taste from UD:      
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23 February 2008
Expelled change of release date centers on the dates of Darwin’s birth and death
salamanca
Ben Stein’s Expelled (www.expelledthemovie.com) was originally scheduled to be released on February 12th of this year — Darwin’s (and Abraham Lincoln’s) birthday. The official release date now is the weekend of April 18th. Saturday, April 19th, is the day that Darwin died. Perhaps this shift of dates is not coincidental.

If you’re going to see Expelled opening weekend, think about seeing it on the 19th to celebrate Darwinism’s passing.

There's a very slim chance this isn't a case of juvenile bad taste.  Many Catholic Saint's Days celebrate the day the saint became a martyr.  Maybe he's trying to say Darwin is a saint and martyr.  But I think that the odds of Salamanca not being a juvie prick are way over the Universal Probability Boundary.

April 18 is the day Einstein died (1955).

It's also Paul Revere's ride day (On the eighteenth of April in seventy-five, hardly a man is now alive...)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,18:55   

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larrynormanfan

02/24/2008

11:17 am
“If you’re going to see Expelled opening weekend, think about seeing it on the 19th to celebrate Darwinism’s passing.”

Nice. Is “salamanca” the UD handle of Fred Phelps?


Astonished that larryfan still has an account at UD.

And this guy won't last long:

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Lou Waters

02/24/2008

7:50 pm
What a weird thread. I wonder if more that a dozen people see Ben’s movie. Well not counting the people they pay to see it.

I have a radical idea. How about someone does some actual ID research that leads to testable theory.

I know, I know, it’s a radical idea. We’re too busy urinating of Darwin’s grave to actually do any science.

Lou


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2008,19:53   

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Lou Waters

02/24/2008

7:50 pm
What a weird thread. I wonder if more that a dozen people see Ben’s movie. Well not counting the people they pay to see it.

I have a radical idea. How about someone does some actual ID research that leads to testable theory.

I know, I know, it’s a radical idea. We’re too busy urinating of Darwin’s grave to actually do any science.

Lou

Fortunately the grave is in Westminster Abbey.  I have no doubts that the only thing keeping those chuckleheads from actually doing that is that they wouldn't dare touch their peepees in church (at least not where everyone can see).

The most they'll get away with is standing on it.  There are priests all over the place.

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Jason Rennie

02/24/2008

4:04 pm

“The scientific imperative is not to reconstruct the entire process but simply to prove that the evolution of the flagellum is plausible using well-established natural processes.”

I wish I could get away with this sort of handwaving and half assedness in my job. Sure would make things easier. Yeah sure this design of mine for this software system plausibly works. Details ? Bah, i’ve demonstrated that it might plausibly work in some hypothetical make believe land. We don’t need to stinking evidence or details.

Jason, apply for a job at the Biologic Institute.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2008,03:39   

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It's no good.  Being of Albionic extraction, the name 'Granville' conjures up an entirely different image.  Other Brits will know what I mean
   
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Granville: I've got the blood of poets and lovers in my veins.
Arkwright: [as Granville leaves] Yes. And at least one electrician

Granville!  Go and tidy up the vegetables.

Thank Providence and The Great Green Arkleseizure that someone else said that!

Nurse Gladys Emmanuel here I come!

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2008,03:52   

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Fortunately the grave is in Westminster Abbey.  I have no doubts that the only thing keeping those chuckleheads from actually doing that is that they wouldn't dare touch their peepees in church (at least not where everyone can see).

The most they'll get away with is standing on it.  There are priests all over the place.


Why did they bury a puppy-molesting materialistic nazi-commie atheist in a church?

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