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NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2016,11:09    William Lane Craig is a genuinely incompetent thinker. I was gratified to discover that my local library system, quite a good one, has none of his books.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2016,11:34    Quote (KevinB @ Oct. 03 2016,09:27) Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 03 2016,00:06) is there a Bulwer-Lytton contest for attempts at logic? The Nimoy-Quinto contest? Nah. Only humans can explain human logic.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 05 2016,18:42    William J Murray gets my vote as the most self unaware person on earth:       Quote This is not just rvb8’s problem, it’s a problem for many atheists we encounter on this site and others – people who are admittedly not scientists or philosophers, but yet who feel comfortable cheerleading certain atheist and materialist talking points and tropes as if they understood the science or as if they understood the philosophical/logical arguments and supposed rebuttals.  They display a level of faith in their ideological perspective that rivals any faith held by religious laymen. I don't know why the average IDiots remind me of someone who is not a scientist or philosopher, but who feels comfortable cheerleading religious talking points and tropes so balmy that Denyse, KF and BA77 find them convincing.  Meanwhile they are all standing outside in a pouring rain wondering why the materialists are the only ones staying dry.  After all, believers are protected by the Golden Shield of Jesus and all those pathetic materialists have is a roof over their heads. Link

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 05 2016,18:46    P.S. Bring back Torley!  Better a thousand levitating Saints than one drooling IDiot!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 05 2016,22:00    Quote 3 bbOctober 5, 2016 at 8:52 pm Good for Mark! I love this guy and saw him speak last year. He is the first to submit dinosaur tissue to a medical lab to perform a standard chem-20. His results were fascinating. He also carbon dated his find to 28,000 years at most. let's get cretarded Edited by stevestory on Oct. 05 2016,23:02

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,00:21    Quote 5 bbOctober 5, 2016 at 9:20 pm Correction. I said the triceratops was 28,000 years, but, according to carbon dating, it’s 33,000 +/- 3,000 years. I was going to say, that first number was way off.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,02:14    In that same thread:     Quote 4 Dean_from_Ohio October 5, 2016 at 9:13 pm You’d think that people who were probably nearly killed in that huge 1994 Northridge earthquake would show more fear of God. Wikipedia says it “…produced ground acceleration that was the highest ever instrumentally recorded in an urban area in North America.” (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Northridge_earthquake) But then you’d be wrong. Dean probably prays to his outboard.

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,04:42    Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 06 2016,00:14) In that same thread:         Quote 4 Dean_from_Ohio October 5, 2016 at 9:13 pm You’d think that people who were probably nearly killed in that huge 1994 Northridge earthquake would show more fear of God. Wikipedia says it “…produced ground acceleration that was the highest ever instrumentally recorded in an urban area in North America.” (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Northridge_earthquake) But then you’d be wrong. Dean probably prays to his outboard. That's a heavy responsibility to put on an earthquake. It really can't do much about influencing people's attitudes about gods. Especially in this scientific age where, if tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunami, landslides, mudslides, avalanches, sinkholes, major flooding, meteoric airbursts, thunder and lightning storms, volcanoes, disease epidemics, plankton blooms, sudden cold snaps, heatwaves, solar flares, eclipses, famines, wildfires, blizzards, hailstorms, fire ant invasions, limnic eruptions, drought, shark attacks, or the breakup of the Beatles havent changed attitudes, well, you can't expect earthquakes to carry the burden. -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,09:29    Re "well, you can't expect earthquakes to carry the burden." Maybe not, but they can shake things up better than most of those other things can!

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,10:50    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 05 2016,22:21) Quote 5 bbOctober 5, 2016 at 9:20 pm Correction. I said the triceratops was 28,000 years, but, according to carbon dating, it’s 33,000 +/- 3,000 years. I was going to say, that first number was way off. Does the Bible say anything about God creating a triceratops 27,000 years before he made the rest of the universe?  Thought not. Burn the heretic! -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,11:59    Quote Science IS Intelligent Design October 6, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design It is the common, uninformed and apparently biased expression of many anti-ID advocates that “science” makes all sorts of discoveries and advances, while Intelligent Design makes none.... derp

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,12:12    Aww....his chest is bursting with righteousnessitude today. You just know WJM puts 'published author at UD' on his resume.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,12:21    Quote EDITED TO ADD: TL;DR: Atheistic materialists ask, “What has ID produced?” The response should be: “What hasn’t it produced?” and he ends that paragraph by calling atheists delusional.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,12:54    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 06 2016,11:21) Quote EDITED TO ADD: TL;DR: Atheistic materialists ask, “What has ID produced?” The response should be: “What hasn’t it produced?” and he ends that paragraph by calling atheists delusional. Quote The response should be: “What hasn’t it (ID) produced?” It hasn't produced squat. That's what it hasn't produced.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,13:11    I suppose ID must be science now, since ID won and evolution lost months ago, IIRC.

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,15:03    From the same Murray post: Quote Why should we consider mathematics and logic, which undergird the validity of scientific theories and discoveries, to be anything other than chance fluctuations in brain chemistry that may vary from time to time, and may or may not have anything at all to do with the real world? Yup, that's what evolutionary theory predicts a brain would evolve to do, undergo chance fluctuations. Murray:  Here's a strawman, isn't it ridiculous?  Can you believe that I was dumb enough to believe it [actually, I can], and that all of the atheist materialists believe it or are too dumb to realize that my strawman is absolute truth? Murray seems to have gone through life with his Sunday School belief in what atheists must think.  At first he rebelled and went with his strawman instead of God, and then he got over that tantrum (took him long enough) and decided it was idiotic to believe in such a strawman after all.  So he rejected the strawman and went with the "only alternative" in his Sunday School dichotomy, if perhaps not quite the sectarian figure he'd been taught. He's quite stupid, quite stubborn, or, more likely, some combination of the two. A whole brain evolved to randomly fluctuate.  That's Byers-level dumbfuckery. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,15:09    Quote (Glen Davidson @ Oct. 06 2016,13:03) From the same Murray post: Quote Why should we consider mathematics and logic, which undergird the validity of scientific theories and discoveries, to be anything other than chance fluctuations in brain chemistry that may vary from time to time, and may or may not have anything at all to do with the real world? Yup, that's what evolutionary theory predicts a brain would evolve to do, undergo chance fluctuations. Murray:  Here's a strawman, isn't it ridiculous?  Can you believe that I was dumb enough to believe it [actually, I can], and that all of the atheist materialists believe it or are too dumb to realize that my strawman is absolute truth? Murray seems to have gone through life with his Sunday School belief in what atheists must think.  At first he rebelled and went with his strawman instead of God, and then he got over that tantrum (took him long enough) and decided it was idiotic to believe in such a strawman after all.  So he rejected the strawman and went with the "only alternative" in his Sunday School dichotomy, if perhaps not quite the sectarian figure he'd been taught. He's quite stupid, quite stubborn, or, more likely, some combination of the two. A whole brain evolved to randomly fluctuate.  That's Byers-level dumbfuckery. Glen Davidson Variants of this have been all over the place at UD for the last few months.  I don't know if they really think it's a winning argument, or if it's all they've got left. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,18:48    (on the Dur Science is ID Thread) Quote 4 bill coleOctober 6, 2016 at 3:21 pm This is a very interesting post. It would be great to have this thesis developed further. No it isn't, and no it wouldn't.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,18:52    Quote 22 rvb8October 6, 2016 at 5:00 pm WJM, I don’t enjoy the attention. I believe psychologists describe this as ‘projection’. As you can read most of the posts here mock me and my intelligence. Marfin angrily informs me to stick to the topic. Well exo-planet discovery, and SETI are things, like OOL that ID folk say are dead ends; they are not. Kairos loses the plot completely, and forgets science entirely by giving a stream of Biblical quotes; Marfin! Perhaps a quiet word in Kairos’ ear about, ‘topic’ and ‘sticking’. Scientists know the earth’s early atmosphere was different from today. They test the chemical composition of ancient rocks, and from the hints and chemicals present, make these interpretations. From these certain experiments are designed using various gasses and energy sources and produce organic chemicals. This is not life, nor even close to life; it is a tiny step in the right direction. They don’t stop however, they come across clays with unusual shapes which chemicals bind to producing more organic chemicals. All of this is uncontroversial, why are the ID community and creationists so scandalised at this research? Vy you say, ‘please support..’ Everything I write is easily found on the net. If I make errors I apologize but the main points are not controversial. Sorry, ‘more than 20.’ This harms me how exactly? Inter-net troll? I don’t think so. You could ban me, as in the good ‘ol days of Dembski and Co, he used that often. However that would leave this dwindling group of ‘super posters’, only with more work to do, and none to gainsay them. you think dembski was ban-happy? Oh you poor sweet child.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,18:54    'this dwindling group of super-posters'.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,19:32    Quote 7 rvb8 October 6, 2016 at 6:19 pm [I’m not interested in putting up with your inane, uninformed nonsense on this thread, rvb8. Run along. – WJM] asshole

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,19:49    Quote Atheistic materialists ask, “What has ID produced?” Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 06 2016,19:32)     Quote 7 rvb8 October 6, 2016 at 6:19 pm [I’m not interested in putting up with your inane, uninformed nonsense on this thread, rvb8. Run along. – WJM] asshole That's about it. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,20:33    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 07 2016,01:32) Quote 7 rvb8 October 6, 2016 at 6:19 pm [I’m not interested in putting up with your inane, uninformed nonsense on this thread, rvb8. Run along. – WJM] asshole Ahahahaa what a cunt.

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,20:58    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 07 2016,12:32)     Quote 7 rvb8 October 6, 2016 at 6:19 pm [I’m not interested in putting up with your inane, uninformed nonsense on this thread, rvb8. Run along. – WJM] asshole He's done the same on the Perplexing thread as well. Then: (See Stevestory's comment above) Now:   Quote 22 rvb8October 6, 2016 at 5:00 pm You could ban me [No, I can’t, but I can limit your trolling on my threads. Keep your comments to the point, please. You’ll be on a short leash on all threads I begin now and in the future. – WJM] UD link -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,21:10    When we get our biker jackets made which say Wesley Elsberry's Goons, maybe we can buy UD some Dwindling Group of Super Posters t-shirts?

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,22:07    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 06 2016,18:54) 'this dwindling group of super-posters'. :D UD lost vjtorley.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2016,23:35    i know he published that one thing elsewhere, but he left for good?

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2016,01:43    Pretty sure.  Someone should log on and ask to make certain.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2016,01:43    Quote 24 rvb8October 6, 2016 at 11:19 pm A post quoting me to which I am not aloud to reply. Hmmm. linky

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2016,11:17    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 07 2016,09:43) Quote 24 rvb8October 6, 2016 at 11:19 pm A post quoting me to which I am not aloud to reply. Hmmm. linky Ls rvb's hearing aid out of order? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

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