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Robert O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,17:24   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 26 2007,16:08)
It's a little puzzling to me how bad they are at the PR. I mean, would you ever put Davetard in charge of your movement's website? Denyse O'Leary, who writes like one of the least promising 6th graders in the english class? Patrick, Gil, Salvador, any of those dimbulbs?

I am pretty sure DaveScot was chosen for his fawning sycophancy rather than his perceived mental acuteness.

Then again, Bill appears to be off the rails at UD much of the time these days; maybe he needs to eat a Snickers to cure his impaired judgment.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,17:39   

The overall strategy was always doomed. Their sophisticated plan of replacing the religious language with sciency sounding language was always doomed, because the court cases would involve wacko school board members who weren't sophisticated and would give away the game. But the overall PR effort by Dembski and the DI has been lame. Making Casey Luskin a spokesman? Putting Davescot in charge of UD? $5 million a year, and this is the best they can do?

Ahmanson might want to have the place audited. I would not be surprised if it turns out they're spending all the dough on hookers and Veuve Clicquot.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,17:47   

Denyse O'Leary says evolutionary psychology is bunk because...

...a bunny rabbit chased a snake up a tree.

No I'm not kidding.

   
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,17:56   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 27 2007,01:39)
The overall strategy was always doomed. Their sophisticated plan of replacing the religious language with sciency sounding language was always doomed, because the court cases would involve wacko school board members who weren't sophisticated and would give away the game. But the overall PR effort by Dembski and the DI has been lame. Making Casey Luskin a spokesman? Putting Davescot in charge of UD? $5 million a year, and this is the best they can do?

Ahmanson might want to have the place audited. I would not be surprised if it turns out they're spending all the dough on hookers and Veuve Clicquot.

If only, they are far too twisted.
I suspect their fantasies involve people a fraction of their age.

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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,18:45   

Quote (phonon @ Feb. 26 2007,14:36)
I'm sorry. Steaming rice in a pot on the stove has to be one of the simplest things you can do in a kitchen.

Me, I prefer to cook my rice using thermonuclear fusion.

It involves a cardboard box, some tinfoil, a black aluminum pot, and a plastic oven bag.

Works for pasta, too.

:)

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,19:38   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 26 2007,17:47)
Denyse O'Leary says evolutionary psychology is bunk because...

...a bunny rabbit chased a snake up a tree.

No I'm not kidding.

Y'know, I thought I'd point and laugh at this one, but when my jaw dropped, no sound came out.

as in "Jaw-droppingly Stupid".

I gotta go with Steve on this.  300 million people, and this is the cream of the crop?

Think about that.  THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE, and this is the best they can do.

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Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

   
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,19:48   

And the Tard flows freely

People who argue specifically against ID are ID friendly.

My head hurts.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,19:51   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 26 2007,19:38)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 26 2007,17:47)
Denyse O'Leary says evolutionary psychology is bunk because...

...a bunny rabbit chased a snake up a tree.

No I'm not kidding.

Y'know, I thought I'd point and laugh at this one, but when my jaw dropped, no sound came out.

as in "Jaw-droppingly Stupid".

I gotta go with Steve on this.  300 million people, and this is the cream of the crop?

Think about that.  THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE, and this is the best they can do.

300 million people and they they had to go to Canada to find her.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,20:07   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Feb. 26 2007,19:51)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 26 2007,19:38)
   
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 26 2007,17:47)
Denyse O'Leary says evolutionary psychology is bunk because...

...a bunny rabbit chased a snake up a tree.

No I'm not kidding.

Y'know, I thought I'd point and laugh at this one, but when my jaw dropped, no sound came out.

as in "Jaw-droppingly Stupid".

I gotta go with Steve on this.  300 million people, and this is the cream of the crop?

Think about that.  THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE, and this is the best they can do.

300 million people and they they had to go to Canada to find her.

Good point.  I was blinded by the Tard.

Doesn't say much for their American supporters (all 12 of them left) though, does it?

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,20:35   

Some prime SalvaTard for your delectation, over at telicthoughts.com:
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I explored a proof by contradiction of mindless OOL here:

Perfect Architectures which scream design

Trevors, Abel, Yockey, Voie have published on the issue. Mindless OOL may be like perpetual motion machines, the notion itself violates a universal principle of the general direction toward entropy away specified structures.

I make the bold prediction that Solexa technology will confirm the claims of ID proponents decisively.

Comment by Salvador T. Cordova — February 26, 2007 @ 8:56 pm


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"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,20:54   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 26 2007,20:35)
I make the bold prediction that Solexa technology will confirm the claims of ID proponents decisively.

Comment by Salvador T. Cordova — February 26, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
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I make the bold prediction that, yet again, Slaveador doesn't know shit from shinola.  (shrug)

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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,20:59   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 26 2007,19:48)
And the Tard flows freely

People who argue specifically against ID are ID friendly.

My head hurts.

I noticed scordova didn't mention the sub-title of Reid's book.

 Biological Emergences: Evolution by Natural Experiment

I'm not sure if that will help your headache.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,21:47   

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Who are the (multiple) designers? James Shapiro offers some compelling answers
Scorned'Ova
Is there only one Designer of life or are their multiple designers?

'Ova's ignorance of the armchair literature is shocking.  
     
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II. Thinks and Poofs are initiated by units of pure intelligent agency known as Rodins. At the current state of theoretical development the Rodin remains a placeholder concept that has yet to be given empirical grounding. It is unclear, for example, whether there is a single Rodin, two Rodins, or countless Rodins and, if there exist more than one Rodin, whether all Rodins give rise to equally efficacious Thinks and/or Poofs. It is also unclear whether multiple Rodins stand in cooperative, competitive, or other relationship to one another, whether Rodins borrow Thinks inferred from the Things originated by other Rodins, whether Rodins have degrees of omniscience, and so forth. However, I make the bold prediction that these questions can be given empirical formulation and resolved through an appropriate combination of laboratory and field investigation...

"Rodin-initiated Thinks are mind-like, agentic, timeless-sizeless representations. Poofs do the hand-like work of actually arranging matter/energy to conform to the specification of a given Think, giving rise to a Thing. A Rodin may “choose” to formulate a grand system of interlocking Thinks all apiece, yet implement such a Think-Structure imperceptibly over deep time by issuing Poofs only slowly and sequentially. Alternatively, a Think-Structure may give rise to thousands of simultaneous Poofs, yielding an (only apparently) saltational Thing-Structure that instantaneously mirrors the underlying Think Structure. Biological Things that display Irreducible Complexity almost certainly issue from the latter sort of process: a single Rodin exerts its intrinsic intentionality to originate a complex biological Think Structure which is in turn effected by means of multiple simultaneous, interlocking Poofs.

"In the future we hope to infer the properties of agentic Rodin or Rodins themselves, by tracing Think-Poof-Thing pathways much as the electrodynamic properties of elementary particles may be inferred from the ephemeral trails left within a cloud chamber. We anticipate that the biology of the 22nd century will be characterized by Rodin simulations, the computational modeling of Biological Think-Structures, the detection and deconstruction of Poof-efficacy at the Think-Thing interface, and a completed Thing Theory. Ultimately we may see the triumph of what has been derisively called the "Big Think" theory of the origins of the universe.  We may also confidently anticipate that a bankrupt Darwinism with truly be a “think” of the past."

(The above was carefully peer reviewed, in that I peered at it while reviewing.  Hey, if that's good enough for the DI, it's good enough for me.)

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,23:17   

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Denyse O'Leary says evolutionary psychology is bunk because...

...a bunny rabbit chased a snake up a tree.

No I'm not kidding.

PPPPHHHHhhhht! :D Richard, watch out. There's a new (well, not) sheriff in town, and I'm gonna go to bed sniggering over that one.

Yeah, Mrs. O'Leary lights a lantern in her head:      
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One of the many reasons I have little use for evo psycho is that animal behavior is often not at all predictable. It may be difficult to say what behavior enabled a given animal to become an ancestor

Little girl! We know precisely what behavior enabled a given animal to become an ancestor!

Not that I want to describe it to you at all! :p

Send Dean Bill over (geez, long enough link? Ever heard of truncation, there, Billy boy?) and I'll whisper the reason in his ear so's he can write it down and hand the note to you in study hall. ;)

(Bill--you don't want to be dean or president. Think of what comes with the territory, crazy women falling in love and throwing themselves at you. You don't want that. You don't want weird lunatic creationist chicks sighing and showing up outside your door at 2 AM. Don't you get that enough, preacher?)

Happens all the time in the church, I know what I'm talking about.   ;)

And anyway, Shalini blogged about the kitty-bear dance first!

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,23:30   

Awwwww! *Digs in pockets, produces some loose change, a broken finger cymbal, and some lint* ???

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 26 2007,23:48   

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Little girl! We know precisely what behavior enabled a given animal to become an ancestor!


LOL.

well, WE do anyway.  one does wonder about a lot of the lUDittes; maybe just on an unconscious level?

BTW, I missed it; why is Densye focusing on evo psych at the moment, anyway?

 
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One of the many reasons I have little use for evo psycho is that animal behavior is often not at all predictable.


tell that to Pavlov, Densye.

Moreover, certain HUMANS are entirely predictable, take uh, yourself, for example.

Creationists are NOTHING if not predictable.

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CloneBoySA



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,00:55   

Hmmm , I thought DaveTard was a millionaire... Hasn't he told Dembski about the millions he made at Dell? Has he been keeping it a secret, or has he spent it all on Cheesy Poofs? Also, the only chair that I can see Dembski being allowed is a kiddies chair in the corner, with one of those cone-shaped dunces hats... (Or is that being unfair on dunces?)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,01:00   

How is this not ID?

http://www.cnn.com/video....ry.khou

(erm 'evidence', people give cash, etc..)

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,01:21   

"The once quiet, narrow street has become a busy parking lot".

frickin' SIGH.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,02:02   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 26 2007,17:47)
Denyse O'Leary says evolutionary psychology is bunk because...

...a bunny rabbit chased a snake up a tree.

No I'm not kidding.

She should have used this rabbit to make her point.

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Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,03:17   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 27 2007,02:02)
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 26 2007,17:47)
Denyse O'Leary says evolutionary psychology is bunk because...

...a bunny rabbit chased a snake up a tree.

No I'm not kidding.

She should have used this rabbit to make her point.

I think she IS that rabbit!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,05:07   

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 26 2007,06:11)
When my wife makes chili, she counts out exactly 239 beans and adds them to the pot because just one more
bean makes it 240.

Zero

Are you sure that's not 420?

  
djmullen



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,05:24   

Richardthughes:  
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But should god be proved (and you guys seem to have given up the 'designer' being anyone BUT God) then that's great, assuming that God isn't some sort of genocidal, 'grudge bearing for stuff that happened before you were born' type entity.


The Bible, Exodus 20:5  
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You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,


Oops.  And that's part of the Ten Commandments, too.

  
djmullen



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,05:36   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 26 2007,16:08)
It's a little puzzling to me how bad they are at the PR. I mean, would you ever put Davetard in charge of your movement's website? Denyse O'Leary, who writes like one of the least promising 6th graders in the english class? Patrick, Gil, Salvador, any of those dimbulbs?

I had a section here that started "If the Discovery Institute were smart,..." but I deleted it, because they're hopeless. And I think they probably know it. At least, if they do, it explains why their fake scientific journal came to a halt the same month Judge Jones issued his opinion.

I think they're doing the best they can with what they can get.  After all, smart people don't generally fall for ID.

  
djmullen



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,05:52   

DO'L foams at the mouth:

But one of her repliers actually makes sense:

realpc:  
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I do not have much intellectual sympathy with atheists, and I do not support their cause. But on the other hand, those of us who are theists and non-materialists need better arguments if we ever want to convince anyone.

I always point to ID and parapsychology.



Funny, I like to point to parapsychology and ID too.

Here.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,08:25   

DEMBSKI ASKS DAVESCOT FOR $1.0 MILLION DOLLARS!!
(Uh... Dr. Evil... excuse me, but $1.0 milllion dollars is not very much money these days...)

William Dembski  02/26/2007 11:32 pm
"Any millionaires frequenting this blog who care to prove me wrong? "

lINK:
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-no-way

CORDOVA MAKES GAY ADMISSION
"Pretty hard, but it hasn’t stopped some of us in the great state of Virginia from trying"

Why Sal!  I'm impressed that you came out of the closet!
So, is it "Mr. Bill", or "DaveScot in Leather", that was designed, just for you?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,09:22   

Quote (djmullen @ Feb. 27 2007,05:07)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 26 2007,06:11)
When my wife makes chili, she counts out exactly 239 beans and adds them to the pot because just one more
bean makes it 240.

Zero

Are you sure that's not 420?

No, but by chance, G x O x D (7 x 15 x 4 ) = 420

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,09:32   

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 27 2007,09:22)
 
Quote (djmullen @ Feb. 27 2007,05:07)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 26 2007,06:11)
When my wife makes chili, she counts out exactly 239 beans and adds them to the pot because just one more
bean makes it 240.

Zero

Are you sure that's not 420?

No, but by chance, G x O x D (7 x 15 x 4 ) = 420

T*A*R*D = 1440!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,10:08   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 26 2007,08:46)
We laugh, but Dembski got sucked into the bible code BIG TIME.

"Sucked into it"?  More like uncritically pounced on it and has yet to admit he was wrong.  I've seen several posts on UD where naive IDers asked Dimski about his current views of the bible codes and he ignored every one of them.

People get "sucked" into playing 3 card monty but only dunces fall for the bible codes.

Dimski admits his math degree was a total waste of money and time!

Read where Dimski suggests Bertrand Russel would have likely given up his atheism had he known of the amazing Bible Codes!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2007,10:19   

So what do these paragons of virtue, who love all these "doctors" who believe in dinosaurs on the ark and sign petitions against evolution, think of a doctor who refuses to treat a little girl because her mother has a tattoo?
 
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I do not have much intellectual sympathy with atheists, and I do not support their cause. But on the other hand, those of us who are theists and non-materialists need better arguments if we ever want to convince anyone.

I always point to ID and parapsychology.

So knock yourself out, Denyse O'Leary. Tell me what I need to learn from your infinite wisdom, because when a man fell down on our icy sidewalks yesterday, I stuck around until the cops came, and when my neighbor knocks on my door crying because her landlord's being a dick and wants the rent now, at midnight, I've given her every cent I had, and if anyone at UD were in trouble, #### right I'd do something, anything to help.

What are these guys trying to teach us, again? Oh, they of little faith. :angry:

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