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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2016,14:16    Quote 218 Mung January 4, 2016 at 2:08 pm Mung: Is equilibrium thermodynamics the same as non-equilibrium thermodynamics? Zachriel: No. The difference is time. Is my brain at or near equilibrium? honest answer? eta linky Edited by stevestory on Jan. 04 2016,15:16

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2016,10:28    Got bored of poking at kairosfocus, but Ken_M picked up the slack. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....feynman Meanwhile, linked to Galileo's middle finger.   http://www.uncommondescent.com/psychol....-594252 -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2016,14:53    Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 05 2016,10:28) Got bored of poking at kairosfocus, but Ken_M picked up the slack. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....feynman And, Gordon Mullings responds it typical KairosFocus fashion. Quote K_M: Why is it that so many objectors to design theory routinely — even, habitually — resort to red herrings, led away to strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2016,18:11    too bad they've denied my last two socks. KF wants to talk Thermodynamics? i used this book til the spine cracked in half. I'd enjoy going toe to toe with Gordo on the subject.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2016,18:13    though Zachriel is more than adequate.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2016,19:27    Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 05 2016,18:11) too bad they've denied my last two socks. KF wants to talk Thermodynamics? i used this book til the spine cracked in half. I'd enjoy going toe to toe with Gordo on the subject. Does it have a chapter on the thermodynamics of strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? E.T.A: Add failure to use the Oxford comma to Gordo's long list of sins. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2016,20:24    Quote Error: Time limit is exhausted. Please enter CAPTCHA value again. Click the BACK button on your browser, and try again. UD Newspeak for "you're outta here".

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2016,21:26    Quote Does it have a chapter on the thermodynamics of strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? Not to mention pursuits of undomesticated aquatic fowl...

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,05:03    Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 06 2016,05:26) Quote Does it have a chapter on the thermodynamics of strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? Not to mention pursuits of undomesticated aquatic fowl... I like my Canard in the Cantonese style with a little aniseed. I'll bet Gordo can't get that at the arse end of the world. He must be sick to death of picking the bones out of Barracuda and tasteless dry plantains. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,07:18    Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 06 2016,05:03) Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 06 2016,05:26) Quote Does it have a chapter on the thermodynamics of strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? Not to mention pursuits of undomesticated aquatic fowl... I like my Canard in the Cantonese style with a little aniseed. I'll bet Gordo can't get that at the arse end of the world. He must be sick to death of picking the bones out of Barracuda and tasteless dry plantains. He'll be the last to  laugh when he finally gets that fishing reel thing. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,09:53    Quote (sparc @ Sep. 14 2015,01:29) Dionisio added about 900 comments to a single thread since before last Christmas. While he mentioned his new catch phrase only once everything  from comment 833 all the way down is     Quote complex complexity Growing evidence for ID, indeed. Since September 13, 2015 Dionisio posted pasted another 578 comments additions to that thread i.e., 5 per day. However, since this is the most ignored UD thread ever it will take at least seven more years until it will be among the five "Most Popular Posts" listed at UD. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,12:31    Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 05 2016,20:27) Does it have a chapter on the thermodynamics of strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? I wanna say that was chapter 9?

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,13:23    Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 06 2016,12:31)   Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 05 2016,20:27) Does it have a chapter on the thermodynamics of strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? I wanna say that was chapter 9? There was a chapter, but it was banned after the notorious hazing incident when they used too much oil of ad hominem, and burned down the gymnasium.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,13:30    Banny Arrogant: "If they actually believed TE, they would be idiots. I doubt many of them do." http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-594641 YEC or OEC, Banny? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,15:55    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 05 2016,14:53) Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 05 2016,10:28) Got bored of poking at kairosfocus, but Ken_M picked up the slack. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....feynman And, Gordon Mullings responds it typical KairosFocus fashion. Quote K_M: Why is it that so many objectors to design theory routinely — even, habitually — resort to red herrings, led away to strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? Quote K-M: I will write just once, for record. You just proved what you are, a trollish agitator unable or unwilling to acknowledge a major and longstanding deep-seated problem of abusive behaviour by objectors to design theory; backed by enabling behaviour of the more genteel . . . some of whom com across as unwilling to confront the abusers because their feral fury will predictably turn on them if they do so. Let him who chooses to ride a tiger beware the consequences. The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — warned against 2350 years ago by Plato as consequences of the rise of evolutionary materialist ideologies — that are wreaking havoc all over our civilisation. You need to be told that you are a part of the problem, not the solution . . . And I always though that I was part of the solution.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,17:45    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,15:55) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 05 2016,14:53) Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 05 2016,10:28) Got bored of poking at kairosfocus, but Ken_M picked up the slack. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....feynman And, Gordon Mullings responds it typical KairosFocus fashion.   Quote K_M: Why is it that so many objectors to design theory routinely — even, habitually — resort to red herrings, led away to strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere? Quote K-M: I will write just once, for record. You just proved what you are, a trollish agitator unable or unwilling to acknowledge a major and longstanding deep-seated problem of abusive behaviour by objectors to design theory; backed by enabling behaviour of the more genteel . . . some of whom com across as unwilling to confront the abusers because their feral fury will predictably turn on them if they do so. Let him who chooses to ride a tiger beware the consequences. The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — warned against 2350 years ago by Plato as consequences of the rise of evolutionary materialist ideologies — that are wreaking havoc all over our civilisation. You need to be told that you are a part of the problem, not the solution . . . And I always though that I was part of the solution. No, you're a precipitate. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,18:08    Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 06 2016,17:45) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,15:55) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 05 2016,14:53)   Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 05 2016,10:28) Got bored of poking at kairosfocus, but Ken_M picked up the slack. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....feynman And, Gordon Mullings responds it typical KairosFocus fashion.   Quote K_M: Why is it that so many objectors to design theory routinely — even, habitually — resort to red herrings, led away to strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere?   Quote K-M: I will write just once, for record. You just proved what you are, a trollish agitator unable or unwilling to acknowledge a major and longstanding deep-seated problem of abusive behaviour by objectors to design theory; backed by enabling behaviour of the more genteel . . . some of whom com across as unwilling to confront the abusers because their feral fury will predictably turn on them if they do so. Let him who chooses to ride a tiger beware the consequences. The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — warned against 2350 years ago by Plato as consequences of the rise of evolutionary materialist ideologies — that are wreaking havoc all over our civilisation. You need to be told that you are a part of the problem, not the solution . . . And I always though that I was part of the solution. No, you're a precipitate. You mean, like a crystal? I wonder if it has more entropy than an equal mass of brain.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,19:43    Gordo:         Quote The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.   The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away. Bydand! Edited by CeilingCat on Jan. 06 2016,19:45

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,20:07    Quote (Texas Teach @ Jan. 05 2016,19:27) E.T.A: Add failure to use the Oxford comma to Gordo's long list of sins. -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,20:15    Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 06 2016,19:43) Gordo:             Quote The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.   The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away. Bydand! I got five bucks that says he found a cigarette butt and a weathered half page of some kid's science homework three blocks from his home. -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,20:59    Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 06 2016,20:15) Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 06 2016,19:43) Gordo:               Quote The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.   The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away. Bydand! I got five bucks that says he found a cigarette butt and a weathered half page of some kid's science homework three blocks from his home. I can see how being a big fish in a small pond can have its rewards. But being a miniscule, completely ignore fish in a small pond must be a huge blow to a huge ego.

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2016,21:50    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,13:55) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 05 2016,14:53)   Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 05 2016,10:28) Got bored of poking at kairosfocus, but Ken_M picked up the slack. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....feynman And, Gordon Mullings responds it typical KairosFocus fashion.   Quote K_M: Why is it that so many objectors to design theory routinely — even, habitually — resort to red herrings, led away to strawmen caricatures soaked in ad hominems and set alight that cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere?   Quote K-M: I will write just once, for record. You just proved what you are, a trollish agitator unable or unwilling to acknowledge a major and longstanding deep-seated problem of abusive behaviour by objectors to design theory; backed by enabling behaviour of the more genteel . . . some of whom com across as unwilling to confront the abusers because their feral fury will predictably turn on them if they do so. Let him who chooses to ride a tiger beware the consequences. The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — warned against 2350 years ago by Plato as consequences of the rise of evolutionary materialist ideologies — that are wreaking havoc all over our civilisation. You need to be told that you are a part of the problem, not the solution . . . And I always though that I was part of the solution. "I will write just once..." If only. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2016,07:42    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,20:59) Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 06 2016,20:15)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 06 2016,19:43) Gordo:                 Quote The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.   The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away. Bydand! I got five bucks that says he found a cigarette butt and a weathered half page of some kid's science homework three blocks from his home. I can see how being a big fish in a small pond can have its rewards. But being a miniscule, completely ignore fish in a small pond must be a huge blow to a huge ego. Does he even achieve fish status? I'd put him at the same level as the snail my nieces have in their fish tank to keep down the algae.

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2016,18:29    Quote (KevinB @ Jan. 07 2016,05:42)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,20:59)     Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 06 2016,20:15)     Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 06 2016,19:43) Gordo:                   Quote The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.   The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away. Bydand! I got five bucks that says he found a cigarette butt and a weathered half page of some kid's science homework three blocks from his home. I can see how being a big fish in a small pond can have its rewards. But being a miniscule, completely ignore fish in a small pond must be a huge blow to a huge ego. Does he even achieve fish status? I'd put him at the same level as the snail my nieces have in their fish tank to keep down the algae. You mean the same murderous Marxist algae employing Alinskyite tactics to bring about Constitutional crises for the aquarium? Does the tank have an underwater volcano? Is the snail equipped with a Nuclear Tripwire? -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2016,21:02    Does it have a sturgeon to help out with injuries caused by all of that?

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2016,22:45    A brain sturgeon would have little to do at UD.

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2016,22:51    Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 07 2016,22:45) A brain sturgeon would have little to do at UD. I don't know about that.   It could eat brains, thereby sparing us a lot of blather.  Don't know if anything could survive on UDite brains, though. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2016,07:22    Quote (paragwinn @ Jan. 07 2016,18:29) Quote (KevinB @ Jan. 07 2016,05:42)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2016,20:59)     Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 06 2016,20:15)       Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 06 2016,19:43) Gordo:                     Quote The abuse I point to includes cyberstalking and on the ground stalking, as well as the now increasingly common alinskyite/ cultural marxist agit-prop tactics and linked nihilist, amoral factionalism and bigotry — I refuse to believe that anybody has flown/sailed/floated/washed up on the shore or otherwise traveled thousands of miles to Monserrat in order to harass Kairosfocus.  I'm probably the only one here who has ever seriously thought of travelling to that island for any reason.   The only thing keeping me from going is the mortal dread of being stranded on a tiny island with a foaming-at-the-mouth nut job who who absolutely insists on talking (at GREAT length!) about Jesus, His Mighty Works and the Holy Entropy of Fishing Reels when the next plane outta there is three days away. Bydand! I got five bucks that says he found a cigarette butt and a weathered half page of some kid's science homework three blocks from his home. I can see how being a big fish in a small pond can have its rewards. But being a miniscule, completely ignore fish in a small pond must be a huge blow to a huge ego. Does he even achieve fish status? I'd put him at the same level as the snail my nieces have in their fish tank to keep down the algae. You mean the same murderous Marxist algae employing Alinskyite tactics to bring about Constitutional crises for the aquarium? Does the tank have an underwater volcano? Is the snail equipped with a Nuclear Tripwire? No volcano, unless the thing that bubbles air counts as one. I will have to ask how well the "So we meet again, Mr Bond" routine works with an albino ferret.

REC Posts: 638 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2016,08:55    PaV lacks the honesty or the reading comprehension to be taken seriously: Regarding Thornton and Ortlund's newest work on the evolution of glucocortocoid receptors he quotes this conclusion: "What this highlights is how proteins that end up evolving new functions had those capacities, because of their flexibility, at the beginning of their evolutionary history, . . . ” as meaning, in his words: "From what I can see, the situation is worse now than it was years before when they did similar experiments. It looks like they’re willing to admit they have no idea how the “evolution” of GR happened, but that it did:" What? PaV also mentions prior work, which actually demonstrated the opposite of what he recalls: "It was ‘viable’, i.e., ‘functional,’ pathways they were searching for. The cunundrum was something like this: one had to have two ‘sets’ of mutations in place; and, IIRC, if you had the one ‘set’ in place, then the mere presence of one of the other ‘set’ of mutations would completely destroy function. ... Hence, there was no ‘functional’ pathway from, let us say, A (‘ancient protein’) to B (‘present day protein’)."

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2016,09:07    I love that PaV admits that he is waiting to hear from Behe in order to determine what the finding of the paper means. -------------- Evolander in training

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