ericmurphy
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| Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 26 2006,18:47) | | It's simple heuristics. One doesn't have infinite time, so one has to make decisions about how to spend one's time. There are a million conspiracy loons out there. |
See, Steve, here's the problem. It's the same as a Creationist saying, "You know, I've heard about this "evolution" conspiracy thing, and frankly, I just don't think there's anything to it." What kind of credibility does a statement like that have.
Now, you may not think looking into this issue is worth your time. That's fine, and we all have to make decisions as to what we spend our time on. But if you're not willing to look into the situation, are you sure you're qualified to have an opinion on it?
Now, on to a couple of points you make:
| Quote | Without reading any link you provide at all, here's what I know:
2 said buildings managed to stand upright for over an hour before the steel warped and bent enough for collapse. |
Nope. I've studied the debris field from a high-resolution (9000 X 9000) image, and there's no evidence that any of the core columns warped or bent, at all. Every visible piece of core column is perfectly straight, and broken into 20-40 foot pieces. How could heat cause structural steel columns to fail in this manner? This isn't based on anything other than a simple observation of the photographs (in fact, I've never seen this particular point addressed anywhere). It's a phenomenon in need of explanation.
| Quote | | 3 I saw the footage 100 times, didn't see any secondary explosions. |
I have video from the network coverage of the collapses, and secondary explosions are clearly visible. You need to give the videos another look.
| Quote | | 4 An engineer interviewed by my local paper, the News and Observer, 4 years ago, who was involved in the project, said he knew they'd come down. |
He new before they came down, or after? The CEO of Controlled Demolition, the company that completed the demolition of the Murrah building in Oklahoma City, didn't know they would come down, and neither did the firemen in WTC 2. And why would they? No steel high-rise had ever failed before, except through deliberate demolition.
| Quote | | 5 Reports have been issued by MIT, NIST, the American Society of Civil Engineers, &c &c, none of which expressed incredulity. |
I've read the NIST report, which has numerous flaws and misleading statements sprinkled throughout it. I also know that the FEMA report expresses no opinion as to how WTC 7 collapsed. The NIST report doesn't even mention WTC 7. Does that seem like a thorough report to you?
| Quote | | 6 The Feds have a hard enough time not looking like idiots in the wake of a hurricane, so big undetectable plots in manhattan in broad daylight.... |
I agree that the government does not seem competent to pull off a conspiracy like this. But I've never claimed to believe the government had anything to do with it.
I understand, Steve, that you don't wish to take the time to evaluate the claims made by 911 Research. That's certainly your right. But I don't think you can reasonably attempt to rebut those claims without examining them in the first place.
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