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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,08:03    I'm trying to imagine a chancellor at NCSU saying, "Have you seen the donations last quarter? We're getting killed! I hate to say it, but I guess we're going to have to allow Academic Freedom again...."

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,08:06    rvb8 has been a bright spot over there: Quote 9 rvb8May 29, 2017 at 9:06 pm es58, I never said something is not designed if it does not have round numbers. I said God is an incompitant designer if He couldn’t use round numbers in His design. I also asked whether God could make Pi=3.0. If he is omnipotent that is. I don’t mind being accused of stupidity, but I do prefer my accusers to display a little reading comprehension. https://uncommondescent.com/atheism....-632562

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,10:39    Quote (Bob O'H @ May 29 2017,02:24) It's getting boring around here, isn't it? I think the thread on the DI could get more traffic. The DI is promoting the heck out of another Jonathan Wells return to the well. It's a case of projectile titling: "Zombie Science". -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,10:50    I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job?

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,12:54    Anyone else having a problem accessing Uncommon Descent? "Too long to respond!"

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,13:27    Quote (Alan Fox @ May 30 2017,10:54) Anyone else having a problem accessing Uncommon Descent? "Too long to respond!" My web browser responds with "It's best that you not visit this site until your irony meter is upgraded." -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,13:44    Quote (paragwinn @ May 30 2017,08:27) Quote (Alan Fox @ May 30 2017,10:54) Anyone else having a problem accessing Uncommon Descent? "Too long to respond!" My web browser responds with "It's best that you not visit this site until your irony meter is upgraded." Yeah well I probably need to upgrade my software. Still can't access UD, though.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,14:31    Quote (Alan Fox @ May 30 2017,13:44) Quote (paragwinn @ May 30 2017,08:27) Quote (Alan Fox @ May 30 2017,10:54) Anyone else having a problem accessing Uncommon Descent? "Too long to respond!" My web browser responds with "It's best that you not visit this site until your irony meter is upgraded." Yeah well I probably need to upgrade my software. Still can't access UD, though. Gordon (Kairosfocus) Mullings will probably go postal if UD stays down. I suspect that it will stress his marriage as he spends more time with his wife, and his wife realizes what an insufferable, pompous jerk he really is.

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,15:00    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ May 30 2017,09:31) Quote (Alan Fox @ May 30 2017,13:44) Quote (paragwinn @ May 30 2017,08:27)   Quote (Alan Fox @ May 30 2017,10:54) Anyone else having a problem accessing Uncommon Descent? "Too long to respond!" My web browser responds with "It's best that you not visit this site until your irony meter is upgraded." Yeah well I probably need to upgrade my software. Still can't access UD, though. Gordon (Kairosfocus) Mullings will probably go postal if UD stays down. I suspect that it will stress his marriage as he spends more time with his wife, and his wife realizes what an insufferable, pompous jerk he really is. Maybe Mrs Mullings, who I hear has her own career, could do with more help around the house. So UD downtime could be a bonus for her.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,15:06    Quote (Alan Fox @ May 30 2017,13:54) Anyone else having a problem accessing Uncommon Descent? "Too long to respond!" I'm getting timeouts at the moment.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,16:35    Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? What's the name of that psychological concept where people tend to keep wasting money/time on a losing proposition because of the amount they've already invested? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,16:44    Quote (Texas Teach @ May 30 2017,17:35) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? What's the name of that psychological concept where people tend to keep wasting money/time on a losing proposition because of the amount they've already invested? Sunk Cost Fallacy? -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,21:05    Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,04:30) I've gone to UD a few times in the last week, but didn't really see anything commentable. They're just in a lull. There hasn't been any real reason for them to exist since Dembski left. They try different strategies to fill the void. Maybe we'll get some fabulous new direction coming soon. As if on cue, Barry has just turned up to remind them that UD is not just an anti-evolution site but has become a climate change denial one too. The first few comments on the Environmentalism is a Religion Complete with Miracles post (UD link), plus Barry's childishly nasty replies, indicate that it could be one to watch. -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,21:44    Quote (Ptaylor @ May 30 2017,19:05) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,04:30) I've gone to UD a few times in the last week, but didn't really see anything commentable. They're just in a lull. There hasn't been any real reason for them to exist since Dembski left. They try different strategies to fill the void. Maybe we'll get some fabulous new direction coming soon. As if on cue, Barry has just turned up to remind them that UD is not just an anti-evolution site but has become a climate change denial one too. The first few comments on the Environmentalism is a Religion Complete with Miracles post (UD link), plus Barry's childishly nasty replies, indicate that it could be one to watch. At high school in England in the '70s, we covered latent heat when I was in my early teens.  In Colorado, it seems they don't cover it at all.  At least, not in whatever short-bus program Barry was enrolled in. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,21:57    Quote (khan @ May 30 2017,16:44) Quote (Texas Teach @ May 30 2017,17:35) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? What's the name of that psychological concept where people tend to keep wasting money/time on a losing proposition because of the amount they've already invested? Sunk Cost Fallacy? Thanks. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,21:59    Quote (Ptaylor @ May 30 2017,19:05) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,04:30) I've gone to UD a few times in the last week, but didn't really see anything commentable. They're just in a lull. There hasn't been any real reason for them to exist since Dembski left. They try different strategies to fill the void. Maybe we'll get some fabulous new direction coming soon. As if on cue, Barry has just turned up to remind them that UD is not just an anti-evolution site but has become a climate change denial one too. The first few comments on the Environmentalism is a Religion Complete with Miracles post (UD link), plus Barry's childishly nasty replies, indicate that it could be one to watch. Sure, in that "Googling Youtube for Trainwrecks" kind of way. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 30 2017,22:00    Quote (JohnW @ May 30 2017,21:44) Quote (Ptaylor @ May 30 2017,19:05) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,04:30) I've gone to UD a few times in the last week, but didn't really see anything commentable. They're just in a lull. There hasn't been any real reason for them to exist since Dembski left. They try different strategies to fill the void. Maybe we'll get some fabulous new direction coming soon. As if on cue, Barry has just turned up to remind them that UD is not just an anti-evolution site but has become a climate change denial one too. The first few comments on the Environmentalism is a Religion Complete with Miracles post (UD link), plus Barry's childishly nasty replies, indicate that it could be one to watch. At high school in England in the '70s, we covered latent heat when I was in my early teens.  In Colorado, it seems they don't cover it at all.  At least, not in whatever short-bus program Barry was enrolled in. Even the Texas State Board of Education hasn't managed to pull that out of the 9th grade curriculum.  (Please nobody give them any ideas.) -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2017,00:54    The NYT article says that nine of the thirty nine glaciers in Glacier National Park have had more than half their area melt away in the last fifty years.  The lowest shrinkage glacier lost twenty four percent.   The Federalist article says this is normal shrinkage, it's been going on since the last Ice Age ended, ten thousand years ago.   I don't think anybody on the ID side has even done "back of the envelope" math on this.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2017,09:25    Quote (Texas Teach @ May 30 2017,16:35) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? What's the name of that psychological concept where people tend to keep wasting money/time on a losing proposition because of the amount they've already invested? "Trying to read UD"? -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2017,11:18    Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? The donors haven't noticed there is a problem? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2017,12:14    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 31 2017,19:18) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? The donors haven't noticed there is a problem? Well there's a sunk cost fallacy if ever there was. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2017,13:30    Quote (k.e.. @ May 31 2017,10:14)   Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 31 2017,19:18)     Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? The donors haven't noticed there is a problem? Well there's a sunk cost fallacy if ever there was. It's the Principle of Fallacy Conservation: Commit enough fallacies and eventually you arrive at the truth. -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2017,16:42    Quote (Bob O'H @ May 31 2017,09:25) Quote (Texas Teach @ May 30 2017,16:35) Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? What's the name of that psychological concept where people tend to keep wasting money/time on a losing proposition because of the amount they've already invested? "Trying to read UD"? Literal lol. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2017,19:45    Has anybody else tried so hard to milk a lame joke as Dionisio? 3X, still pathetic. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 01 2017,11:03    Quote (paragwinn @ May 31 2017,21:30) Quote (k.e.. @ May 31 2017,10:14)     Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 31 2017,19:18)     Quote (stevestory @ May 30 2017,10:50) I was just reading Larry Moran's take on that book last night. It reminds me, How does anyone at the DI still have a job? The donors haven't noticed there is a problem? Well there's a sunk cost fallacy if ever there was. It's the Principle of Fallacy Conservation: Commit enough fallacies and eventually you arrive at the truth. Yep there might be a dogmatic book title there for a little slovenly mining if you had two PhD's a pathological desire to stall and a stipend from some bibliolators. Dr2 Bill seems to have run out of gas at a Texas barbecue truck stop before completing the the Conservation of [Optional Fallacy] series. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 01 2017,15:46    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 30 2017,10:39) Quote (Bob O'H @ May 29 2017,02:24) It's getting boring around here, isn't it? I think the thread on the DI could get more traffic. The DI is promoting the heck out of another Jonathan Wells return to the well. It's a case of projectile titling: "Zombie Science". Unfortunately, since Evolution News & Views is so predictable it is even more boring than UD. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 01 2017,15:55    BTW, I predict that the first "article" in 2017 Bio-Complexity will not appear before the next Carnival season will officially declared open in Cologne. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 01 2017,17:18    Quote Quote KF: "KMP, of course, how did you recognise that all those items were designed, in absence of direct knowledge of the designers and exactly how they did it?" Kmidpuddle: "Unless you are suggesting that they were built by aliens, we have a direct knowledge of the designer. He had two arms, two legs, five fingers on each hand, with opposable thumbs. He had a brain capable of rational thought, abstract reasoning, etc. He had knowledge of metallurgy. He breathed oxygen and respired CO2. He was a carbon based life form that has two genders. He had a maximum life span or 90+ years. He was fully developed in 18 to 25 years. Those are the things that we know about him. And there are many other things that we can infer about him." Now, how much do you know about your purported designer of the cell? Or flagellum? Or protein?Comment 84

clamboy Posts: 299 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 01 2017,19:20    Quote (Glen Davidson @ May 31 2017,19:45) Has anybody else tried so hard to milk a lame joke as Dionisio? 3X, still pathetic. Glen Davidson Because he heard the drinks were on the roof!

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2017,10:18    Quote (sparc @ June 01 2017,13:55) BTW, I predict that the first "article" in 2017 Bio-Complexity will not appear before the next Carnival season will officially declared open in Cologne. I predict the Cologne Carnival will have considerably more intellectual depth. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

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