avocationist
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Joined: Feb. 2006
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| Quote | | For example: You think that their are massive unaddressed flaws with 'Darwinism'...yet you cant tell us what they are... |
I haven't had time to do it yet. It's definitely the right way to go.
| Quote | | If, however, someone claims that dropping Evolution and replacing it with ID will push medicine into the dark ages...they actually have a reason. It may be hyperbole, but since many, many modern medical advances are based on the Theory of Evolution...it would not be false to claim that if Evolution was false...then many medical discoveries would be invalidated. |
I believe that is a fallacious assumption. Name me one medical advance that would be invalidated, name me one medical discovery that depended upon the arrival of species having come about through gradualism rather than some other mechanism.
Russell,
No one is saying that Darwinists are engaged in massive fraud. What they say is that Darwinian evolution will turn out to be one of the biggest false leads in science. The word fraud might be used, but not personally against anyone or the group. That is absurd.
| Quote | | Are you familiar with this for instance? |
Alright, I'm sitting here reading it and first of all, Wesley called someone named Goode to ask what Dembski meant. In my opinion, Goode was wrong. I don't think Dembski was referring to the collapse of the Soviet Union, but just to a hegemony in science, and I cannot disagree with that. The actions taken against Richard Sternberg, for example, show exactly what Dembski mentions, and while Wesley is right that he was not sent to exile or taken out and shot, we don't have that kind of society. Again, Wesley says Dembski failed to note the unproductive nature of ideologically sanctioned science, but right now it seem it is Wesley who should be thinking about that. No the parallels are not exact - we don't exist in an idea-driven totalitarian regime but it is still a monopoly of ideas to a large extent. Anyway, that's as far as I got.
| Quote | | but I will tell you I honestly worry about the anti-science, anti-intellectual religious right mindset that seems to be inseparable from ID. |
Yes, even Grandad notices that the far end of the fundamentalist spectrum is the situation we have in the middle east. But then, too, let us not forget that it is not only religion which is capable of this - after all, we have the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany which were, if anything, worse than living under the Ayatollah of Iran.
Okay, I went back to look at the wedge document, and I misunderstood the first time. Apparently it is theirs. Nonetheless, I don't know what about it you find objectionable. I've read through about half your link.
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