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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 01 2014,19:26   

Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 01 2014,18:49)
Meow.

Just don't go feral on us Henry. Otherwise the animal rescue people I know will have to remove both your nuts, before they can smother you with love.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,01:43   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 02 2014,02:26)
Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 01 2014,18:49)
Meow.

Just don't go feral on us Henry. Otherwise the animal rescue people I know will have to remove both your nuts, before they can smother you with love.

So Gary how's your science education going? Did you bone up on Quantum Mechanics?

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,02:50   

I just stumbled across a recording from the 2nd. Gregory Bateson Symposium in Oslo, 1913.

I listened with fascination to Terrence W. Deacon: A radical new explanation of how life and consciousness emerge from physics and chemistry from the UC Berkeley Anthropology Chair, Terrence Deacon:

Incomplete Nature - Sane Society  

How Mind Emerged from Matter

Bateson Symposium

Speakers

Terrence Deacon -- Language and complexity: Evolution inside out

The Darwin Debate: Steven Pinker, Jonathan Miller, Steve Jones and Meredith Small - BBC

Edit: Cleanup.

Edited by Quack on Nov. 02 2014,03:07

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,12:14   

Nice find Quack. I'm thrilled to see academic scientists finally catching up with what I have been explaining about "living things" an such:

http://youtu.be/BvFE1Au....t=4m59s

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,12:26   

Gary, you've been pointed towards Deacon before.
And you've been corrected repeatedly on your egregiously false claim to having actually explained anything.  You haven't, ever.

Amongst other flaws, flaws distinctly not present in Deacon's work, you completely ignore energy effects.  This alone disqualifies your work from any serious consideration for insight into biology, consciousness, or intelligence.

But across the board, you have been shown to be flat-out embarrassingly wrong about everything.  
407 pages into this thread and you haven't even explained your "theory" nor its putative relationship to your absurd software.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,14:34   

And Quack the Terrence Deacon video worked great for celebrating what I had to heroically add to a UD discussion that last night got hopelessly lost, by all not yet having been aboard the Dinosaur Train:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-524546

And NoName, UD already has enough generalization driven arguments that only get everyone dizzy from endlessly going nowhere in circles. So off I go to somewhere else! Woooosh!!!!

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,15:28   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 02 2014,12:34)
So off I go to somewhere else! Woooosh!!!!

Bet you won't.

Attention whore.

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,15:33   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 02 2014,15:34)
And Quack the Terrence Deacon video worked great for celebrating what I had to heroically add to a UD discussion that last night got hopelessly lost, by all not yet having been aboard the Dinosaur Train:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-524546

And NoName, UD already has enough generalization driven arguments that only get everyone dizzy from endlessly going nowhere in circles. So off I go to somewhere else! Woooosh!!!!

Still confused about 'generalization' I see.

You do realize, don't you, that all theories are generalizations?  
No, of course you don't.  Despite not having a single specific in your "theory".  Or is that 'because'?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,15:55   

Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 02 2014,15:28)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 02 2014,12:34)
So off I go to somewhere else! Woooosh!!!!

Bet you won't.

Attention whore.

Oops, upon checking back on things here I can see that I misspelled a word.

I must now get back to where duty calls. Whoooosh!!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,16:30   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 02 2014,15:55)
   
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 02 2014,15:28)
   
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 02 2014,12:34)
So off I go to somewhere else! Woooosh!!!!

Bet you won't.

Attention whore.

Oops, upon checking back on things here I can see that I misspelled a word.

I must now get back to where duty calls. Whoooosh!!!!

OK, so you've finally learned that operational definitions are necessary for science, that hypotheses need to be testable before they are useful, and that theories are logical explanations built up from hypotheses that have passed some rounds of testing.  Congratulations.  Now apply it to your own rubbish: you still haven't provided operational definitions for all the levels of intelligence that you assert, nor are your ideas testable, nor have you proposed any logically valid tests for your ideas, nor does your still-not-a-theory offer any actual explanations for anything.  You also haven't provided any actual valid supporting evidence for any of your assertions.  Hollow assertions are not science.  You are therefore not in a good position to be lecturing anybody about anything related to science.

In short, your spelling mistake re your description of your posting requires an "it" at the end, not an "h" near the beginning.

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Still confused about 'generalization' I see.

Add "heroically" to that list, too.

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,17:15   

Quote (N.Wells @ Nov. 02 2014,16:30)
In short, your spelling mistake re your description of your posting requires an "it" at the end, not an "h" near the beginning.

Per jeffox: The noise I make is a WHOOOT!

Now get over it!

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,17:24   

You still haven't provided operational definitions for all the levels of intelligence that you assert, nor are your ideas testable, nor have you proposed any logically valid tests for your ideas, nor does your still-not-a-theory offer any actual explanations for anything.  You also haven't provided any actual valid supporting evidence for any of your assertions.  Hollow assertions are not science.

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,19:38   

LOL!!!!!!!

Just Dance 4 - The Final Countdown - 5* Stars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....QNuG7AY

Whose the other guy? N.Wells or NoName?

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,22:47   

Anyone else thinking of that scene where  Charly Gordon is making funny faces because he can't answer the question?

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2014,23:55   

After my presenting a testable model with included Theory of Operation the constant demands for operational definitions and endless evidence are just annoying red-herrings, which attempt to make it appear that I gave this forum nothing to study and test.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2014,07:17   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 03 2014,00:55)
After my presenting a testable model with included Theory of Operation the constant demands for operational definitions and endless evidence are just annoying red-herrings, which attempt to make it appear that I gave this forum nothing to study and test.

As always, you are in error (and perhaps denial).

You have provided no model, not even of a fantasy object.
You have presented no operational definitions.
You do not have a theory, still less a "Theory of Operation".
You have given the forum nothing to study nor to test.

Your document is an absurdity, not even suited to be surrealist literature, let alone standard English prose.
Your software bears no resemblance to your "theory", nor does it model the various "elements", "layers", or structural escherisms of your "theory".  This has all been pointed out, in extreme detail and with exhaustive annotation, over the past 406 pages.  You've not responded to, nor rectified, any of the howling errors in your work, nor have you provided any of the requested missing pieces.  Your inability to structure a logical framework is well demonstrated by your inability to structure a plain English paragraph.  Your inability to explain is spotlighted for the world to see in your so-called "theory".

But just for laughs -- do please tell us why your "theory" should be considered to qualify as an actual theory.  What do you consider the minimal qualifications a linguistic structure must meet to count as a theory?  What elements, if present, would render a linguistic structure otherwise eligible to be considered a theory incapable of being so considered?
What have you done to generate your "theory" that in any way matches the standard generation patterns by which theories arise?

I'll get the popcorn.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2014,10:41   

Somebody typed:  
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having been aboard the Dinosaur Train:



Is that the one with Mr. Crowley on the flipside?  

No, he won't get that one, either . . . .

'Cuz he's a hoot!!!!!!!!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2014,10:43   

or did that one leave at 5:15?

Just checking . . . .

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2014,17:59   

Quote (jeffox @ Nov. 03 2014,10:41)
Somebody typed:    
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having been aboard the Dinosaur Train:



Is that the one with Mr. Crowley on the flipside?  

No, he won't get that one, either . . . .

'Cuz he's a hoot!!!!!!!!!

That's the Crazy Train that goes off the rails every time, not the Dinosaur Train that safely travels through prehistoric time and can even go underwater without a single passenger ever getting wet.

Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2014,02:40   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 04 2014,01:59)
Quote (jeffox @ Nov. 03 2014,10:41)
Somebody typed:    
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having been aboard the Dinosaur Train:



Is that the one with Mr. Crowley on the flipside?  

No, he won't get that one, either . . . .

'Cuz he's a hoot!!!!!!!!!

That's the Crazy Train that goes off the rails every time, not the Dinosaur Train that safely travels through prehistoric time and can even go underwater without a single passenger ever getting wet.

Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train

Psychosis preventing sleep Gary?

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2014,06:37   

I have to get to my day job k.e. so I have no time to dance in circles.

But I stopped in to mention getting into this long battle:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/ddd....-525169

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2014,06:44   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Nov. 04 2014,14:37)
I have to get to my day job k.e. so I have no time to dance in circles.

But I stopped in to mention getting into this long battle:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/ddd........-525169

At 14:27 a day job? Driving the short bus on the afternoon run, good for you.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2014,21:54   

Quote (N.Wells @ Nov. 02 2014,17:24)
You still haven't provided operational definitions for all the levels of intelligence that you assert, nor are your ideas testable, nor have you proposed any logically valid tests for your ideas, nor does your still-not-a-theory offer any actual explanations for anything.  You also haven't provided any actual valid supporting evidence for any of your assertions.  Hollow assertions are not science.

But I'll have you know that I did spend this evening better wording things by starting from scratch for something kairosfocus said. It's the only other thing I posted all day, and it's now 10:53 PM my time (though what the forum software gives for time is wrong k.e.):  

http://www.uncommondescent.com/ddd....-525576

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2014,22:35   

HA HA HA HA

KAIROS BLEEDING FOCUS????

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2014,22:45   

Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 04 2014,22:35)
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???

NO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....AZ03C_o

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2014,06:23   

And  wow I should have checked the last video before posting it, instead of just the start. But this forum is mind warped anyway, and the ending of the video is relevant to the "times are changing" theme.

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2014,10:13   

Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 04 2014,20:35)
HA HA HA HA

KAIROS BLEEDING FOCUS????

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Quite right.  Surely we've all thought "If only Gary's stuff had more footnotes?"

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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2014,12:54   

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HA HA HA HA

KAIROS BLEEDING FOCUS????

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA



Could you imagine these two trying to one-up each other?  One doesn't understand most English, and the other doesn't know when enough is enough . . . . AND BOTH NEED A DICTIONARY!  

HOOT HOOT HOOT HOOT HOOT

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2014,13:45   

And a manual of style.
And an education in basic English.
And an education in basic science.
And an education in basic logic.
and so on, and on and on.

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2014,23:32   

After a long hard day at work I was in no mood for the trolls in my thread. But at UD I explained how to scientifically eliminate all arguments from opponents that use Darwinian words, and other winning strategy I noticed that they needed to know.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/ddd....-525825

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-525839

I have to mention that science politics is quickly ruining me and I feel like I'm almost out of time and must soon drop dead from not being able to afford such things as long needed dental care and other sometimes agonizing things literally killing me.

All this just goes to show how useless it can be to ask for help from the ivory tower science defenders. Getting an OK on what is honestly teachable in the public schools is only asking for trouble from a system that doesn't even know yet but is certain that it does. After a while you can end up looking at it as "the worst they can do is kill you" then later don't worry about that being the way it goes, when the system fails us.

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