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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,14:19   

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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) gain an understanding of include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.


My points are proved.

I would call this sentence Byersesque but that would be an insult to R. Byers.

Have you been taking lessons from him, Gaulin?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,15:44   

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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) gain an understanding of include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.


My points are proved.

I would call this sentence Byersesque but that would be an insult to R. Byers.

Have you been taking lessons from him, Gaulin?

No, that's what happens when "I'm most concerned with being precise as possible, even though adding all the needed qualifiers can make sentences a harder read."

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,16:09   

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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) gain an understanding of include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.


My points are proved.

I would call this sentence Byersesque but that would be an insult to R. Byers.

Have you been taking lessons from him, Gaulin?

No, that's what happens when "I'm most concerned with being precise as possible, even though adding all the needed qualifiers can make sentences a harder read."

The sentence is fractured and meaningless.
The problem is not with the abundance of qualifiers.
Problem exists between keyboard and chair.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,16:15   

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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) gain an understanding of include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.


My points are proved.

I would call this sentence Byersesque but that would be an insult to R. Byers.

Have you been taking lessons from him, Gaulin?

No, that's what happens when "I'm most concerned with being precise as possible, even though adding all the needed qualifiers can make sentences a harder read."

That is not precise - it's hideous and not really intelligible English.  There's a difference.

There's something missing between "parameters" and "to change".  

There's no obvious subject.  

Your sentence begins with "And", which is not prohibited, but is odd without adding clarity or emphasis or style.  

"By charting and graphing behavior" is mystifying: it does not need to be in parentheses, and adding "behavior" appears to obfuscate your meaning.  (Presumably, charting and graphing per se help people understand stuff, but "behavior" adds nothing, except confusion.) 

"Gain an understanding of include"?????  - that loses me completely.

Your attractor network does not model hippocampi.  That should be your computer program (except that it doesn't actually model hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas - you just slap labels onto a concept and assert that you have therefore modeled them.)

You need a comma between "areas" and "there".

"Related" gets in the way of your point without adding anything: just say "which puts to shame any experience you have in cognitive science".  (That claim is false, but it would at least be grammatical.)

"You have to shame" is grammatical, but it is very poorly written: especially without including the word "that", "you have" seems to modify "to shame" rather than "any experience [that you have]".

Also, why the quotation marks in 'No, that's what happens when "I'm most concerned with being precise as possible, even though adding all the needed qualifiers can make sentences a harder read."?'

Without clear thinking and clear writing, your audience won't understand what you are saying, and, worse, you seem not to understand it either.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,17:09   

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"Gain an understanding of include"?????  - that loses me completely.

The argument is over how I qualified "being used by serious experimenters". My operational definition clearly states "gain an understanding of" not "press a few buttons to see what happens".

 
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but when you make claim that the "theory" is being "...used by serious experimenters" it's just plain dishonesty.

I qualify "being used by serious experimenters" as a computer model or its theory of operation being seriously experimented with, by anyone who has the ability to do so. This can include teenage experimenters who spend some time experimenting with the on screen controls in order to gain an understanding of what happens when design parameters are changed.

Not being used by serious experimenters happens when all are stuck reading a book about a controversy that essentially argues ID theory for a model that can be seriously experimented with is possible, but none is included.

I don't know how you define "used by serious experimenters" but whatever it is it's scientifically useless academic snobbery that really only benefits the Discovery Institute and its affiliates.

www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=7420;st=15780#entry250504

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,17:17   

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"Gain an understanding of include"?????  - that loses me completely.

The argument is over how I qualified "being used by serious experimenters". My operational definition clearly states "gain an understanding of" not "press a few buttons to see what happens".

 
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but when you make claim that the "theory" is being "...used by serious experimenters" it's just plain dishonesty.

I qualify "being used by serious experimenters" as a computer model or its theory of operation being seriously experimented with, by anyone who has the ability to do so. This can include teenage experimenters who spend some time experimenting with the on screen controls in order to gain an understanding of what happens when design parameters are changed.

Not being used by serious experimenters happens when all are stuck reading a book about a controversy that essentially argues ID theory for a model that can be seriously experimented with is possible, but none is included.

I don't know how you define "used by serious experimenters" but whatever it is it's scientifically useless academic snobbery that really only benefits the Discovery Institute and its affiliates.

www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=7420;st=15780#entry250504

You don't have any operational definitions.
Tossing the words around as if you did is part and parcel of your ineptitude and dishonesty.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,18:33   

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The argument is over how I qualified "being used by serious experimenters".

I understand that, but my point is that a sentence that includes the words "....gain an understanding of include...." is incompetent and ungrammatical English that defies interpretation.

You originally tried to pass off as "serious experimenters" "all the people who have downloaded and experimented with any of the ID Lab models."

You then moved to  
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I qualify "being used by serious experimenters" as a computer model or its theory of operation being seriously experimented with, by anyone who has the ability to do so. This can include teenage experimenters who spend some time experimenting with the on screen controls in order to gain an understanding of what happens when design parameters are changed.


So anyone who experiments with your program enough to try to figure out how the controls work is supposedly a serious experimenter?  That fits right in with your thinking that  'will study it when I get time' (or something close to that) constitutes positive peer review.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,18:52   

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The argument is over how I qualified "being used by serious experimenters".

I understand that, but my point is that a sentence that includes the words "....gain an understanding of include...." is incompetent and ungrammatical English that defies interpretation.

In hindsight it seems that I should have added quote marks around "gain an understanding of" but since some complain I use them too much I left them out.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,18:58   

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The argument is over how I qualified "being used by serious experimenters".

I understand that, but my point is that a sentence that includes the words "....gain an understanding of include...." is incompetent and ungrammatical English that defies interpretation.

In hindsight it seems that I should have added quote marks around "gain an understanding of" but since some complain I use them too much I left them out.

We say the same about your use of words yet you continue to spew them helter-skelter.  Thoughtlessly even.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,20:54   

Fascinating article, from almost a year ago:
www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2015,21:50   

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The argument is over how I qualified "being used by serious experimenters".

I understand that, but my point is that a sentence that includes the words "....gain an understanding of include...." is incompetent and ungrammatical English that defies interpretation.

In hindsight it seems that I should have added quote marks around "gain an understanding of" but since some complain I use them too much I left them out.

What?

Are you seriously proposing that your sentence would have made more sense if you had said  
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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) "gain an understanding of" include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.

?

That's still not comprehensible English.  In fact, it's even worse.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,01:09   

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Are you seriously proposing that your sentence would have made more sense if you had said        
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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) "gain an understanding of" include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.

?

That's still not comprehensible English.  In fact, it's even worse.

Well then it doesn't matter much either way. That's at least what the complete thought looks like. Adding more words and punctuation seems to unnecessarily bloat it. I expect it will at least make sense in Massachusetts. So you're welcome to show how you would construct the sentence without changing the meaning. I'm adaptable.

What I'm currently in need of info on is this mysterious affair:
www.uncommondescent.com/darwinism/royal-society-to-meet-on-paradigm-shift-in-evolution/

The hoopla led to a link to an announcement in the journal Nature but there are no details to be found elsewhere:
www.nature.com/natureevents/science/events/40817-New_Trends_in_Evolutionary_Biology_Philosophical_and_Social_Science_Implications

As you know I'm a peasant that can't afford such a journey nor the admission fee but I still have an internet connection and could maybe send a poster or something in my place. If you attend then can you send a picture of where they hid it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,01:45   

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As you know I'm a peasant that can't afford such a journey nor the admission fee but I still have an internet connection and could maybe send a poster or something in my place. If you attend then can you send a picture of where they hid it?



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,02:04   

John, you read my mind!

Since trying to flush it would clog up the crapper its ending up in the restroom (or whatever it's called in London) might give it the most attention possible. You must know how when just sitting or standing around, something to read can help pass the time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,16:48   

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Since trying to flush it would clog up the crapper...

Ahhh...so you finally realize your real-science "theory" is just one big turd.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,17:38   

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Since trying to flush it would clog up the crapper...

Ahhh...so you finally realize your real-science "theory" is just one big turd.

My day-job gives me the resources to make a poster that looks easy enough to flush but the ink and paper (either archival Montval watercolor from France or made of Kevlar) are essentially waterproof. Even where successful with the initial flush it's likely to clog up the pipe out to the street and the Royal Society would have to call a plumber to snake out whatever it is that's now blocking up their entire sewage system and overflowing all the crapper's. After rinsing off (the one or more pieces) to see what it is, the poster is back again. And with even more people wondering what the heck is going on.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,18:03   

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You don't have any operational definitions.
Tossing the words around as if you did is part and parcel of your ineptitude and dishonesty.

Some of the continuing personal insults make it very easy for me to relate:

What Is Your Greatest Fear? - Wingsuit Proximity - Dying to Live 3 (Yuna and Adventure Club)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=10byeZV5jcc

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,18:05   

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John, you read my mind!

Finally, Gary has something readable.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,18:22   

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My day-job gives me the resources to make a poster that looks easy enough to flush but the ink and paper (either archival Montval watercolor from France or made of Kevlar) are essentially waterproof. Even where successful with the initial flush it's likely to clog up the pipe out to the street and the Royal Society would have to call a plumber to snake out whatever it is that's now blocking up their entire sewage system and overflowing all the crapper's. After rinsing off (the one or more pieces) to see what it is, the poster is back again. And with even more people wondering what the heck is going on.

Confirming your theory isn't even fit to wipe one's arse with.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,18:54   

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My day-job gives me the resources to make a poster that looks easy enough to flush but the ink and paper (either archival Montval watercolor from France or made of Kevlar) are essentially waterproof. Even where successful with the initial flush it's likely to clog up the pipe out to the street and the Royal Society would have to call a plumber to snake out whatever it is that's now blocking up their entire sewage system and overflowing all the crapper's. After rinsing off (the one or more pieces) to see what it is, the poster is back again. And with even more people wondering what the heck is going on.

Confirming your theory isn't even fit to wipe one's arse with.

SpaceX must thank this (toilet of a) forum for all the hot air and bullshit needed to fuel the now historic rocket. Job well done:

USA: SpaceX sends rocket to space and back with upright landing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....oOph72A

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,18:59   

So, the anti-psychotics aren't working, then?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2015,19:03   

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Are you seriously proposing that your sentence would have made more sense if you had said            
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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) "gain an understanding of" include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.

?

That's still not comprehensible English.  In fact, it's even worse.

Well then it doesn't matter much either way. That's at least what the complete thought looks like. Adding more words and punctuation seems to unnecessarily bloat it. I expect it will at least make sense in Massachusetts. So you're welcome to show how you would construct the sentence without changing the meaning.

Your thought is neither complete nor comprehensible.  I could probably write it more succinctly, but only if I could figure out what you were trying to say.

"I expect it will at least make sense in Massachusetts."  You are deluding yourself, again.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 29 2015,07:49   

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Some of the continuing personal insults make it very easy for me to relate:


Every post you make shows that you do not understand how to construct an English sentence, Gaulin.

I don't know if the USA has remedial English courses as we do here in the UK but I advise you to look out for one.

I cannot decide which is the worst, your not-a-theory, your "model" or your English.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,11:37   

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Some of the continuing personal insults make it very easy for me to relate:


Every post you make shows that you do not understand how to construct an English sentence, Gaulin.

I don't know if the USA has remedial English courses as we do here in the UK but I advise you to look out for one.

I cannot decide which is the worst, your not-a-theory, your "model" or your English.

Practically everywhere Gary has gone, including in the early pages of this thread, he has been told that his execrable English composition skills need to be improved.  Even if his ideas made sense, his poor writing would be a significant impediment to understanding what he's trying to say.  He regularly makes excuses such as being tired or irritable, or that his obtuse sentence construction is necessary to discourage quote mining or to make sure that he has all of the bases covered.

The fact that he doesn't take steps to make his writing intelligible is evidence of his indifference towards being understood.  If he doesn't care whether he's understood or not, why should anyone else take the trouble to translate?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,15:08   

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Some of the continuing personal insults make it very easy for me to relate:


Every post you make shows that you do not understand how to construct an English sentence, Gaulin.

I don't know if the USA has remedial English courses as we do here in the UK but I advise you to look out for one.

I cannot decide which is the worst, your not-a-theory, your "model" or your English.

Practically everywhere Gary has gone, including in the early pages of this thread, he has been told that his execrable English composition skills need to be improved.  Even if his ideas made sense, his poor writing would be a significant impediment to understanding what he's trying to say.  He regularly makes excuses such as being tired or irritable, or that his obtuse sentence construction is necessary to discourage quote mining or to make sure that he has all of the bases covered.

The fact that he doesn't take steps to make his writing intelligible is evidence of his indifference towards being understood.  If he doesn't care whether he's understood or not, why should anyone else take the trouble to translate?

Gary said,  
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That's at least what the complete thought looks like. Adding more words and punctuation seems to unnecessarily bloat it. I expect it will at least make sense in Massachusetts.


My guess is that Gary thinks that whatever seems obvious and self-evident to him should be similarly obvious to everyone else, so (A) it is sufficient for him simply to assert his conclusions, (B) he doesn't need to supply any tests or supporting evidence, and ( C) it doesn't even matter if his writing is polished and perfect or not.

Unfortunately, both his thinking and his writing are muddled beyond comprehension.

Gary, read what your sentence actually says; see it as it is seen by your readers who do not know what you meant to say:  
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And considering how design parameters to change and (by charting and graphing behavior) gain an understanding of include an attractor network that models hippocampi and entorhinal cortex areas there might already be preteens who can put any cognitive science related experience you have to shame.
 Do you still maintain that that sentence is understandable to people in Massachusetts?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,16:22   

If you must know: Whatever spare time I have is now being spent conversing with and explaining how the ID Lab and theory works, to people who are genuinely interested.

Elsewhere: From what I can gather I have been banned (or blacklisted) from the NCSE blog. I cannot post anything anymore. With the bullies still running the comments section all constructive discussions with teachers were always nearly impossible. In my opinion that says volumes about those who are claiming to be defending science.

At this point in time not being able to understand me is just a lame excuse. None did themselves any favors by claiming I did not do enough. I must get back to my other work.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,17:38   

Update: I now see one comment (not mine) on the screen at the NCSE blog. It's possible I can again post there but right now I have nothing to say right now.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,17:55   

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Update: I now see one comment (not mine) on the screen at the NCSE blog. It's possible I can again post there but right now I have nothing to say right now.

Well, apologizing for the unfounded slurs you aimed their direction would be something that you could say, but given the familiarity with your past behavior we have, I'd say that seems unlikely.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,18:10   

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Update: I now see one comment (not mine) on the screen at the NCSE blog. It's possible I can again post there but right now I have nothing to say right now.

And the redundant sentence is because I'm so damn disgusted!

The whole system is run like a circus, now parading off to London to again reformulate "evolution by natural selection". The Discovery Institute will likely have no problem affording being there to represent what they call a "theory". It's just the usual academic politics that favors those who are an integral part of the traveling show.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,18:15   

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Update: I now see one comment (not mine) on the screen at the NCSE blog. It's possible I can again post there but right now I have nothing to say right now.

Well, apologizing for the unfounded slurs you aimed their direction would be something that you could say, but given the familiarity with your past behavior we have, I'd say that seems unlikely.

Like you have the right to accuse me of slurs. You should be apologizing to me, but that's not how it works in your clubhouse.

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