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carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2009,15:51    Quote (noncarborundum @ Jan. 23 2009,15:32)   From their "diagnostic quiz":     Quote 14. The phrase the “separation of church and state” can be found where? (a) in the original Constitution. (b) in the Bill of Rights. ( c ) in the amendments enacted after the Bill of Rights. (d) in the Declaration of Independence. (e) in none of the above, but in arguments by people seeking to censor Christianity. Oooh!  I know!  Pick me!  Pick me!!!!!111! Easy, peasy, Japanesey.   In a letter from Thomas Jefferson* to the Danbury Baptists** dated January 1, 1802. * Otherwise a favorite Founding Father of conservatives. ** There was a time that Baptists were a minority Christian sect and feared oppression by the more dominant Anglican sect. Oh, how the times have changed.*** ***  There are actually liberal Baptists. Believe it or not. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2009,16:06    My EX told me that, as recently as the 1960s, most Baptists believed in separation of church and state. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2009,16:10    I thought the "separation" phrase was a summary (or paraphrase? perhaps a sound bite?) of one of the ten, rather than a quote of the actual wording of it.

noncarborundum Posts: 320 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2009,16:17    Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 23 2009,16:10) I thought the "separation" phrase was a summary (or paraphrase? perhaps a sound bite?) of one of the ten, rather than a quote of the actual wording of it. The phrase was Jefferson's description of purpose and effect of the religion clauses of the First Amendment:   Quote I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. -------------- "The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2009,18:05    If I recall correctly, the phrase was repeated in his letter to the Virginia Baptists, as well. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2009,13:39    Good to see that, in these difficult end times, they're putting good moral thoughts into the kids' heads*. *Their target audience should have plenty of room . . . Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Jan. 31 2009,07:33 -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2009,13:58    Quote (Amadan @ Jan. 29 2009,13:39) Good to see that, in these difficult end times, they're putting [URL=http://wonkette.com/405745/conservative-wiki-offers-helpful-list-of-senate-democrats-to-assissinate-so-republican-gov ernors-can-appoint-replacements]good moral thoughts[/URL] into the kids' heads*. *Their target audience should have plenty of room . . . Well, clearly the Republican Governors could best use their time to fly to Belfast to straighten the Irish out and visit some of the Catholic bars to explain to them how a Good Republican Protestant Governor feels about The Virgin Mary and the Pope. Maybe you and Peter Henderson anonymous friends could  help out?  I know my relatives the peace-loving saintly, happy residents would be happy to assist in any way possible. :) -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2009,03:28    Mystery: why do non conservatives exist. Along with a breakdown of the causes: Quote  Statistical Analysis (Estimates)        * 30%: did not hear about conservative principles, their logic and full benefits until after they made up their mind and, perhaps due to pervasive societal bias, refuse to reconsider        * 15%: lack of desire to find the truth, and a greater desire in gaining attention, praise by liberal teachers, getting along by going along, and not standing up to liberal bullies        * 15%: refuse to let go of their past, especially their past mistakes and image etc etc...

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2009,07:20    Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 31 2009,04:28) Mystery: why do non conservatives exist. Along with a breakdown of the causes: Quote  Statistical Analysis (Estimates)        * 30%: did not hear about conservative principles, their logic and full benefits until after they made up their mind and, perhaps due to pervasive societal bias, refuse to reconsider        * 15%: lack of desire to find the truth, and a greater desire in gaining attention, praise by liberal teachers, getting along by going along, and not standing up to liberal bullies        * 15%: refuse to let go of their past, especially their past mistakes and image etc etc... Hahahaha! "Statistical Analysis (estimates)" They forgot: "Libruls don't understand that statistical analysis = pulling numbers out of one's rectum." -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Richard Simons Posts: 425 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2009,08:03    Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 31 2009,03:28) Mystery: why do non conservatives exist. I suppose it is the liberal in me coming out, but has anyone seen the equivalent 'Why do non-liberals exist?' complete with phony stats? I find it hard to imagine unless it was a spoof. -------------- All sweeping statements are wrong.

dnmlthr Posts: 565 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2009,08:33    Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 31 2009,09:28) Mystery: why do non conservatives exist. Along with a breakdown of the causes: Quote  Statistical Analysis (Estimates)        * 30%: did not hear about conservative principles, their logic and full benefits until after they made up their mind and, perhaps due to pervasive societal bias, refuse to reconsider        * 15%: lack of desire to find the truth, and a greater desire in gaining attention, praise by liberal teachers, getting along by going along, and not standing up to liberal bullies        * 15%: refuse to let go of their past, especially their past mistakes and image etc etc... It's as hard as usual to distinguish poe from non-poe on conservapedia, however it would seem that the original author of that article is at least not a drive-by parodist. -------------- Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

JLT Posts: 740 Joined: Jan. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 16 2009,11:39    Quote The Conservapedia evolution article has sprinted past the 500,000 view mark! This is bad news for the dogmatic evolutionists who are aware that in 2006, the prestigious science journal Science reported concerning the United States: "The percentage of people in the country who accept the idea of evolution has declined from 45 in 1985 to 40 in 2005. Meanwhile the fraction of Americans unsure about evolution has soared from 7 per cent in 1985 to 21 per cent last year."[9] Watch the internet continue to grind down evolutionism! Linky I think I finally found a sig. -------------- "Random mutations, if they are truly random, will affect, and potentially damage, any aspect of the organism, [...] Thus, a realistic [computer] simulation [of evolution] would allow the program, OS, and hardware to be affected in a random fashion." GilDodgen, Frilly shirt owner

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 15 2009,15:23    Good grief - they have changed to main picture on the evolution article to one of Columbine killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Classy. Catch it, if you want, while you can. (H/t to anonymous commenter at RationalWiki.) -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.â€� We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.â€� -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Tom Ames Posts: 238 Joined: Dec. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: April 15 2009,15:57    Quote (Ptaylor @ April 15 2009,13:23) Good grief - they have changed to main picture on the evolution article to one of Columbine killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Classy. Catch it, if you want, while you can. (H/t to anonymous commenter at RationalWiki.) From that "Evolution" article on Conservapudia, noted without comment: "Evolutionary theory played a prominent role in regards to atheistic communism. Communists, in particular Stalinism, favored a version of Lamarckism called Lysenkoism developed by the atheist Trofim Denisovich Lysenko." -------------- -Tom Ames

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 15 2009,17:29    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 31 2009,07:20) Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 31 2009,04:28) Mystery: why do non conservatives exist. Along with a breakdown of the causes:   Quote  Statistical Analysis (Estimates)        * 30%: did not hear about conservative principles, their logic and full benefits until after they made up their mind and, perhaps due to pervasive societal bias, refuse to reconsider        * 15%: lack of desire to find the truth, and a greater desire in gaining attention, praise by liberal teachers, getting along by going along, and not standing up to liberal bullies        * 15%: refuse to let go of their past, especially their past mistakes and image etc etc... Hahahaha! "Statistical Analysis (estimates)" They forgot: "Libruls don't understand that statistical analysis = pulling numbers out of one's rectum." http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:My....xist%3F Quote It's an estimate, and a work in progress. Do you doubt its truth? Perhaps you're simply saying that a liberal newspaper would not admit this, and you'd be right about that. But the truth is not constrained by what liberals will admit.--aschlafly 18:29, 14 December 2008 (EST) His Assflys defense of his statistics when challenged is equally as good... -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,20:29    Andy comes up with another gem: Quote James, your own postings are extremely verbose with little on topic and yet ... you accuse Karajou of a "rant"???  This talk page is your criticism of the biblical explanation of survival by mammals of a massive flood.  Do you think evolution has a better explanation of how mammals could survive a massive flood?  I'd love to hear it if you have one.  I don't think anyone denies that all of the inhabitable earth has been flooded.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:56, 5 November 2009 (EST) Once again, via RationalWiki -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.â€� We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.â€� -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,22:10    It's not whether there's a point on Earth's surface that's never been under water at some point in geologic history, it's whether all of those points were under at the same time for a period of months. Rhetorical question: how can some people confuse all of Earth but at different times with all of the Earth at once? Henry

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 10 2010,10:47    Andy Schlafly has a new physics, a conservative physics. E=mc2 Is A Liberal Conspiracy -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 10 2010,10:56    I've seen this several places now. I still can't decide if Conservapedia is one massive joke and we're all falling for it, or if this is almost a new nadir in fundy stupidity. I'm not sure it isn't both. Louis -------------- Bye.

socle Posts: 322 Joined: July 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 10 2010,11:04    I wonder if he's ok with Galilean relativity.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 10 2010,14:58    Quote (Louis @ Aug. 10 2010,10:56) I've seen this several places now. I still can't decide if Conservapedia is one massive joke and we're all falling for it, or if this is almost a new nadir in fundy stupidity. I'm not sure it isn't both. Louis Louis - Sometimes the stupid is not a "Poe" - sometimes it's just real stupid... -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 11 2010,02:40    Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 10 2010,20:58) Quote (Louis @ Aug. 10 2010,10:56) I've seen this several places now. I still can't decide if Conservapedia is one massive joke and we're all falling for it, or if this is almost a new nadir in fundy stupidity. I'm not sure it isn't both. Louis Louis - Sometimes the stupid is not a "Poe" - sometimes it's just real stupid... I've been on the internet too long... ;-) Louis -------------- Bye.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2010,15:34    Front page right now: Quote Atheist and evolutionist helpline Scienceblogger Chad Orzel described the commentators on PZ Myers' Scienceblogs.com site Pharyngula, and other Scienceblogs.com commentators, as "screechy monkeys". Take the screechy monkey self-test. There is hope and healing available for atheist and evolutionist screechy monkeys. Talking Points Memo strikes out in trying to ridicule Conservapedia, so it makes a snide remark about the Bible too. TPM readers and writers, check out this table: Counterexamples to the Bible  0   Counterexamples to Evolution  60   IQ of Atheists  0 divided by 60   -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2010,15:54    MOAR. REED THIS, HOMOS: http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_....elpline -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2010,16:04    Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2010,13:54) MOAR. REED THIS, HOMOS: http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_....elpline In the unlikely event that your irony meters have survived prolonged exposure to UD, the section Quote The claim that atheists tend to be quarrelsome and socially challenged men is by Vox Day. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

lkeithlu Posts: 321 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2010,11:50    Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 12 2010,16:04) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2010,13:54) MOAR. REED THIS, HOMOS: http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_....elpline In the unlikely event that your irony meters have survived prolonged exposure to UD, the section Quote The claim that atheists tend to be quarrelsome and socially challenged men is by Vox Day. I AM NO MAN!!!! (rips off her helmet and drives her sword straight through) (though I may be socially challenged. a bit. maybe)

Mindrover Posts: 65 Joined: April 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2010,13:54    Quote (lkeithlu @ Aug. 13 2010,11:50) Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 12 2010,16:04) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2010,13:54) MOAR. REED THIS, HOMOS: http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_....elpline In the unlikely event that your irony meters have survived prolonged exposure to UD, the section   Quote The claim that atheists tend to be quarrelsome and socially challenged men is by Vox Day. I AM NO MAN!!!! (rips off her helmet and drives her sword straight through) (though I may be socially challenged. a bit. maybe) :angry: You're Odysseus?

lkeithlu Posts: 321 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2010,14:35    Quote (Mindrover @ Aug. 13 2010,13:54) Quote (lkeithlu @ Aug. 13 2010,11:50) Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 12 2010,16:04)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2010,13:54) MOAR. REED THIS, HOMOS: http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_....elpline In the unlikely event that your irony meters have survived prolonged exposure to UD, the section   Quote The claim that atheists tend to be quarrelsome and socially challenged men is by Vox Day. I AM NO MAN!!!! (rips off her helmet and drives her sword straight through) (though I may be socially challenged. a bit. maybe) :angry: You're Odysseus? No, I am woman (hear me roar) That was a scene from LOTR, Return of the King. I'm afraid I'm not cultured enough for Odysseus.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2010,15:53    Odysseus is Greek to me, too.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2010,20:45    Quote (lkeithlu @ Aug. 13 2010,15:35) Quote (Mindrover @ Aug. 13 2010,13:54) Quote (lkeithlu @ Aug. 13 2010,11:50)   Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 12 2010,16:04)   Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 12 2010,13:54) MOAR. REED THIS, HOMOS: http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_....elpline In the unlikely event that your irony meters have survived prolonged exposure to UD, the section     Quote The claim that atheists tend to be quarrelsome and socially challenged men is by Vox Day. I AM NO MAN!!!! (rips off her helmet and drives her sword straight through) (though I may be socially challenged. a bit. maybe) :angry: You're Odysseus? No, I am woman (hear me roar) That was a scene from LOTR, Return of the King. I'm afraid I'm not cultured enough for Odysseus. To wit. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

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