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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,08:51   

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One of the problems with UD is IDing the socks. I've been wondering about TWSYF, but I think this nails it
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JAD @ 19: You are describing two vastly different cultural environments. One is saturated with Hip Hop lyrics and attitude, the other is not.

There are, of course, more factors to consider, such as drug abuse, poverty, poor educational systems, and absent fathers, but Hip Hop culture is the gasoline that keeps the fires raging. It has devastated many poor black communities… including Chicago. It is the very opposite of uplifting music. It is a destroyer of communities.

Back in my day it was heavy metal that got all the blame.

Well of course Hip Hop leads to other things, cause it leads first to dancing! :p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,09:16   

Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 29 2018,08:33)
Did it make the Clear Channel no play list?

OMG, Morning Has Broken is on that list.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,13:19   

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Did it make the Clear Channel no play list?

OMG, Morning Has Broken is on that list.

Because Muslim = terrorist.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:04   

Dense and Dreary is the queen of irony.

Do atheists find meaning in life from inventing fairy tales?

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:12   

If the country of Irony has her as its queen, I wouldn't want to go there.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,15:50   

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If the country of Irony has her as its queen, I wouldn't want to go there.

They only do it ironically.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,16:17   

Fe.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2018,23:27   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 29 2018,09:16)
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Did it make the Clear Channel no play list?

OMG, Morning Has Broken is on that list.

So is Peace Train. Whoever put that list together has some definitely messed-up priorities.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2018,19:42   

Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 29 2018,14:17)
Fe.

I will match your Fe and raise you O3

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2018,21:42   

I think it just rusted...

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2018,16:59   

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Abandoning statistical significance in science
March 31, 2018 Posted by News under Intelligent Design, Peer review, Science
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From Blakeley B. McShane, David Gal, Andrew Gelman, Christian Robert, Jennifer L. Tackett (22 Sep 2017) at arXiv.org:
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Abandon Statistical Significance

In science publishing and many areas of research, the status quo is a lexicographic decision rule in which any result is first required to have a p-value that surpasses the 0.05 threshold and only then is consideration–often scant–given to such factors as prior and related evidence, plausibility of mechanism, study design and data quality, real world costs and benefits, novelty of finding, and other factors that vary by research domain. There have been recent proposals to change the p-value threshold, but instead we recommend abandoning the null hypothesis significance testing paradigm entirely, leaving p-values as just one of many pieces of information with no privileged role in scientific publication and decision making. We argue that this radical approach is both practical and sensible.More.


It might be easier for scientists to just be another bureaucracy.


C'mon Dense, that's not even phoning it in.

Edited by stevestory on Mar. 31 2018,18:01

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2018,17:01   

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Therefore, it is a problem for Darwinism if we find evidence that complex behavior, instead of arising gradually, was already present in the oldest animals we know.


Now, boys & girls, can you explain what is wrong with the logic of this sentence, and tell us what the Latin name is for this fallacy?
Bob O'H always amuses.

   
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2018,19:42   

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By their criteria William Whewell, John Herschel, Adam Sedgwick, Louis Agassiz, Louis Pasteur, Richard Owen, Pierre Paul Grasse, Ludwig von Bertalanffy, Harold Morowitz,Marcel Schutzenberger, Lynn Margulis, Fred Hoyle, Ernst Chain, Mike Behe, Michael Denton, Cornelius George Hunter, and many others aren’t “scientists” and cannot by definition be “scientists.” Why? Apparently because they question the Darwinian paradigm which has now become synecdoche for “science.”


Wow!  So Cornelius's middle name is George.  Why did they only list Corney's middle name?  Is there another Cornelius Hunter somewhere who doesn't have his head up his ass?

Can anybody name another place where Behe, Denton and George are found in the same sentence as Herschel, Agassiz, Pasteur and Owen?  Hoyle, maybe, since he's most well known today for his crankish support for the Steady State cosmology, but he did make some Nobel-worthy contributions to science before he veered off the road and ended up in the swamp.

Behe, Denton and Sweater George voluntarily drove into the swamp and they like it there.

Biology majors recruited to face rearward promoting Darwin

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2018,02:13   

Bornagain77's real name is Phillip Cunningham.  Curiously, there is a law named Cunningham's Law:

Cunningham's Law: The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question, it's to post the wrong answer.

This law is named after a different Cunningham, Ward Cunningham,  who invented the Wiki, but Phil has spent the last ten years proving it's true.

See also

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2018,14:51   

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If dark matter is everywhere why isn’t it detected?
April 1, 2018 Posted by News under Cosmology, Intelligent Design


derpa derpa

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2018,15:51   

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Godzooks?

April 1, 2018 Posted by News under Artificial Intelligence
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 From David Berlinski reviewing Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow by Yuval Noah Harari at Inference Review:


I recently read Harari's Sapiens. It was fascinating and really well-written. Years ago, I was once in a bookstore, and started to read a David Berlinski book. Less than 5 pages in, Berlinski was such a rude, insulting shithead that I tossed the book on the floor and walked away.

linky

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2018,16:28   

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Godzooks?

April 1, 2018 Posted by News under Artificial Intelligence
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 From David Berlinski reviewing Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow by Yuval Noah Harari at Inference Review:


I recently read Harari's Sapiens. It was fascinating and really well-written. Years ago, I was once in a bookstore, and started to read a David Berlinski book. Less than 5 pages in, [b]Berlinski was such a rude, insulting shithead [/b{that I tossed the book on the floor and walked away.

linky

Hmmm. Has anyone ever seen Berlinski and Joke at the same time?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2018,22:01   

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Godzooks?

April 1, 2018 Posted by News under Artificial Intelligence
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 From David Berlinski reviewing Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow by Yuval Noah Harari at Inference Review:


I recently read Harari's Sapiens. It was fascinating and really well-written. Years ago, I was once in a bookstore, and started to read a David Berlinski book. Less than 5 pages in, [b]Berlinski was such a rude, insulting shithead [/b{that I tossed the book on the floor and walked away.

linky

Hmmm. Has anyone ever seen Berlinski and Joke at the same time?

Berlinski was a much more eloquent shithead than Joe.

Still not worth reading, though.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2018,00:11   

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Godzooks?

April 1, 2018 Posted by News under Artificial Intelligence
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 From David Berlinski reviewing Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow by Yuval Noah Harari at Inference Review:


I recently read Harari's Sapiens. It was fascinating and really well-written. Years ago, I was once in a bookstore, and started to read a David Berlinski book. Less than 5 pages in, [b]Berlinski was such a rude, insulting shithead [/b{that I tossed the book on the floor and walked away.

linky

Hmmm. Has anyone ever seen Berlinski and Joke at the same time?

Berlinski was a much more eloquent shithead than Joe.

Still not worth reading, though.

I dunno when Dr Berlinski interviewed Dr Berlinski it was double Dr Dr. tardilicious.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2018,02:51   

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Godzooks?

April 1, 2018 Posted by News under Artificial Intelligence
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 From David Berlinski reviewing Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow by Yuval Noah Harari at Inference Review:


I recently read Harari's Sapiens. It was fascinating and really well-written. Years ago, I was once in a bookstore, and started to read a David Berlinski book. Less than 5 pages in, Berlinski was such a rude, insulting shithead that I tossed the book on the floor and walked away.

linky

This is a copy & paste of what Denyse copied & pasted:
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Harari believes, are about to lose their social and economic usefulness as well as their souls.25 Robots are coming, and, if not robots, then all-powerful algorithms. Having replaced chess champions and quiz show contestants, they are shortly to replace truck drivers, travel agents, accountants, lawyers, and doctors. Whether they are about to replace historians is a question that Harari wisely declines to discuss. What makes their forthcoming domination inevitable, Harari believes, is the discovery that consciousness may be separated from intelligence. Computers are no more conscious today than they were in 1950, but they are very much more intelligent, and in the near future they are certain to become even more intelligent. This is the information revolution that Harari has persuaded himself that he sees clearly. The Whig optimist now gives way to the Whig pessimist. The information revolution is likely to benefit the minority of those with the wit, or the money, to make use of it. “As algorithms push humans out of the job market,” Harari writes, “wealth and power might become concentrated in the hands of the tiny elite that owns the all-powerful algorithms, creating unprecedented social and political inequality.”26 Algorithms might even become entities under the law, like corporations or trusts, Facebook’s corporate algorithm showing Mark Zuckerberg the door in favor of itself.

I guess if a 27th robot turns up with its algorithms, it'll be an outlaw.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 02 2018,08:14   

Quote (Bob O'H @ April 02 2018,10:51)
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Godzooks?

April 1, 2018 Posted by News under Artificial Intelligence
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 From David Berlinski reviewing Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow by Yuval Noah Harari at Inference Review:


I recently read Harari's Sapiens. It was fascinating and really well-written. Years ago, I was once in a bookstore, and started to read a David Berlinski book. Less than 5 pages in, Berlinski was such a rude, insulting shithead that I tossed the book on the floor and walked away.

linky

This is a copy & paste of what Denyse copied & pasted:
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Harari believes, are about to lose their social and economic usefulness as well as their souls.25 Robots are coming, and, if not robots, then all-powerful algorithms. Having replaced chess champions and quiz show contestants, they are shortly to replace truck drivers, travel agents, accountants, lawyers, and doctors. Whether they are about to replace historians is a question that Harari wisely declines to discuss. What makes their forthcoming domination inevitable, Harari believes, is the discovery that consciousness may be separated from intelligence. Computers are no more conscious today than they were in 1950, but they are very much more intelligent, and in the near future they are certain to become even more intelligent. This is the information revolution that Harari has persuaded himself that he sees clearly. The Whig optimist now gives way to the Whig pessimist. The information revolution is likely to benefit the minority of those with the wit, or the money, to make use of it. “As algorithms push humans out of the job market,” Harari writes, “wealth and power might become concentrated in the hands of the tiny elite that owns the all-powerful algorithms, creating unprecedented social and political inequality.”26 Algorithms might even become entities under the law, like corporations or trusts, Facebook’s corporate algorithm showing Mark Zuckerberg the door in favor of itself.

I guess if a 27th robot turns up with its algorithms, it'll be an outlaw.

That would explain Joe. Ethics free and and purely mechanical performance.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 04 2018,11:52   

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Bob O'HApril 4, 2018 at 4:46 am
ET @ 32 – yes, you’re right. Barry wrote that. Not Hariri. Barry is mis-interpreting what Hariri i saying – I think he hasn’t appreciated the importance of the “in biology” that Hariri uses a few times.

bs77 – within atheism there are many different beliefs. You are asking me about beliefs that I do not share. Is this really so hard for you to understand?

You claim to be a Christian. In what way is it loving to be rude and insulting, and to continually misrepresent someone else’s views, when they have repeatedly told you that they are mis-representing them? Is the Golden Rule not a part of (objective) Christian morality?
linky

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2018,07:11   

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Bob O'HApril 4, 2018 at 4:46 am
ET @ 32 – yes, you’re right. Barry wrote that. Not Hariri. Barry is mis-interpreting what Hariri i saying – I think he hasn’t appreciated the importance of the “in biology” that Hariri uses a few times.

bs77 – within atheism there are many different beliefs. You are asking me about beliefs that I do not share. Is this really so hard for you to understand?

You claim to be a Christian. In what way is it loving to be rude and insulting, and to continually misrepresent someone else’s views, when they have repeatedly told you that they are mis-representing them? Is the Golden Rule not a part of (objective) Christian morality?
linky

Would BS77 pass the Turing test?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2018,08:14   

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Bob O'HApril 4, 2018 at 4:46 am
ET @ 32 – yes, you’re right. Barry wrote that. Not Hariri. Barry is mis-interpreting what Hariri i saying – I think he hasn’t appreciated the importance of the “in biology” that Hariri uses a few times.

bs77 – within atheism there are many different beliefs. You are asking me about beliefs that I do not share. Is this really so hard for you to understand?

You claim to be a Christian. In what way is it loving to be rude and insulting, and to continually misrepresent someone else’s views, when they have repeatedly told you that they are mis-representing them? Is the Golden Rule not a part of (objective) Christian morality?
linky

Would BS77 pass the Turing test?

Not the most crucial one. The XOR test or function. In other words everything is the reverse of what he computes.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2018,19:08   

Barry’s OHIA: Only Human Intelligence Allowed? post, and especially JVL’s comments on it, has got off to a roaring start.
BA77, after a few of his typically lengthy and quote filled posts, provides a lulz moment in a comment beginning:
   
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JVL, you answered, after much unnecessary wording, that you don’t personally believe the brain is designed.
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My emphasis,
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2018,10:04   

I just glanced at UD for a few mins. There's no doubt in my mind that the Ctrl, C, and V paint is rubbed clean off BatShit77's keyboard. Those keys probably have grooves in them.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2018,10:46   

I forced myself to power through one of BA77's recent comments on the OHIA thread. Some linked-to articles are actually very interesting, such as "The Evolutionary Argument Against Reality" (https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-evolutionary-argument-against-reality-20160421).

Of course, BA77 daisy chains small pieces of these articles into his own grand narrative--Darwinism is falsified, materialism is falsified, the Apostle Paul was onto something, and Christian music makes everything better.

I wonder if he ever reads an entire article, or if he just cuts out interesting paragraphs and thumb-tacks them to a wall-sized bulletin board, connecting topic groups with yarn and adding personal comments in post-its.


  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2018,11:13   

You've got a good point; BatShit's posts are text versions of the Crazy Board trope.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2018,18:03   

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If design in nature is not a “scientific observable,” nothing is.


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Okay, but with respect to the term “emerging adults,” are we talking about Millennials, many of whom doubt that Earth is a sphere? They do not like having to think.


derp derp derp

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2018,18:09   

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If design in nature is not a “scientific observable,” nothing is.


Every bit as much as the flat earth is a scientific observable.

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