Joe G
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| Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 17 2015,14:24) | | Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 17 2015,18:33) | | Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 12 2015,19:29) | | Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 12 2015,14:36) | | I don't know of any court case in which the defendant argued that an act was done by disembodied spirits. |
Meanwhile paternity suits turn on evidence of common descent - exactly the same kinds of tests as used in phylogenetic analysis. This is one thing that bugs the hell out of me - valid in the one, invalid in the other, no good reason given. All of a sudden, at some arbitrary remove from intraspecies descent, the self-same commonality markers elide from accepted common descent to hogwash 'common design'. The less like each other genome pairs become, the more commonly-designed they are! |
That is so wrong and pathetic. The tests use to determine paternity would show no relationship between humans and chimps. Different DNA sequences and different tests. |
Of course, numbnuts. Different instances of Alu insertions must be used at the intra- and interspecies levels, for reasons that would be pretty obvious to people who weren't as thick as two short planks. But in both instances, it's the same basic sequence that is being detected - the Alu sequence, whose 'random' insertion behaviour gives a pretty sure-fire signal of common descent, unless you have evidence to the contrary. I'm sure the legal profession would be fascinated by your input.
So the same fundamental assay is being performed at both levels - investigation of the variation in Alu sequence insertion sites between pairs of genomes. If one Alu insert is shared only by 2 children and a parent, and hence is sound paternity evidence, why is another Alu insert shared by (say) all chimps and humans but not gorillas NOT comparable evidence of relatedness on a somewhat broader scale? Do you think humans were specially created with the same Alu insertions in the same place as chimps?
| Quote | Also common design is both an observation and an experience in our world.
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So fucking what? If I find the exact same chunk of text inserted at exactly the same site in two supposedly independent-origined 'commonly designed' sequences, I can't discount copying as a possible cause out of hand. Separate design would require some evidence to trump the obvious: copying. Try it in court. "This child has the same Alu sequences as me because it was Created thus". You're onto a loser with this one. But keep trying, O Belligerent One. |
What is your evidence that genetic changes can produce the differences observed between chimps and humans? How can you test the claim other than saying "they look like they shared a common ancestor to me"?
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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth
"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton
Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD
YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism
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