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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,07:26

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Fishy bite. Heh.

I like the claim about moving the sun making it act like a black hole. Joe, will you show your calculations proving the "black hole effect" or will you dazzle us with your inspired retorts?

Or just run away for a bit?

Show me where I made that claim

I'm asking for your calculations to show that if the sun were "moved into the space of the orbit of Mars" everything would fall into it.

Show me where I made that claim.

Umm that wasn't about moving the Sun to Mars' orbit. It pertains to the mass of the Sun being such that its diameter was that of the orbit of Mars.

Joe do you even know what mass and diameter are?

Yes, I do. Do you have a point?

Do blue giants have both (large diameter and a large amount of mass)?

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,07:52

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 03 2014,12:26)

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Fishy bite. Heh.

I like the claim about moving the sun making it act like a black hole. Joe, will you show your calculations proving the "black hole effect" or will you dazzle us with your inspired retorts?

Or just run away for a bit?

Show me where I made that claim

I'm asking for your calculations to show that if the sun were "moved into the space of the orbit of Mars" everything would fall into it.

Show me where I made that claim.

Umm that wasn't about moving the Sun to Mars' orbit. It pertains to the mass of the Sun being such that its diameter was that of the orbit of Mars.

Joe do you even know what mass and diameter are?

Yes, I do. Do you have a point?

Do blue giants have both (large diameter and a large amount of mass)?

The thing with black holes is not so much that they are massive, but that they are relatively small. That's not to say that some black holes aren't very massive. It makes no more sense to talk about increasing the diameter of the sun causing a black hole effect than it does to talk about the orbit of the sun causing a black hole effect.

Joe, it is not that you don't know things that makes you a figure of fun. You spend so much effort making up more and more silly stuff rather than admit you were wrong that it reaches legendary proportions.

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,08:02

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 03 2014,15:26)

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Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 03 2014,14:40)

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Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 24 2014,12:35)

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Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 21 2014,14:48)

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Fishy bite. Heh.

I like the claim about moving the sun making it act like a black hole. Joe, will you show your calculations proving the "black hole effect" or will you dazzle us with your inspired retorts?

Or just run away for a bit?

Show me where I made that claim

I'm asking for your calculations to show that if the sun were "moved into the space of the orbit of Mars" everything would fall into it.

Show me where I made that claim.

Umm that wasn't about moving the Sun to Mars' orbit. It pertains to the mass of the Sun being such that its diameter was that of the orbit of Mars.

Joe do you even know what mass and diameter are?

Yes, I do. Do you have a point?

Do blue giants have both (large diameter and a large amount of mass)?

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped....MG]
Which one is the sun bone head?

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,08:18

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 03 2014,13:02)

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Fishy bite. Heh.

I like the claim about moving the sun making it act like a black hole. Joe, will you show your calculations proving the "black hole effect" or will you dazzle us with your inspired retorts?

Or just run away for a bit?

Show me where I made that claim

I'm asking for your calculations to show that if the sun were "moved into the space of the orbit of Mars" everything would fall into it.

Show me where I made that claim.

Umm that wasn't about moving the Sun to Mars' orbit. It pertains to the mass of the Sun being such that its diameter was that of the orbit of Mars.

Joe do you even know what mass and diameter are?

Yes, I do. Do you have a point?

Do blue giants have both (large diameter and a large amount of mass)?

[img]
]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped........MG]
Which one is the sun bone head?

He's saying if the sun were the kind of star that would collapse into a black hole then it would collapse into a black hole. Which is why he said that if you moved the sun into the orbit of Mars it would cause a "black hole effect" in scare quotes. Previous history does actually suggest, on reflection, that Joe is such a bad communicator that it is is even plausible that is what he meant.

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,08:39

If the sun were of a magnitude that could EVOLVE into a giant blue then anything that was near it would be eroded i.e blown into space by the forces from solar radiation long before it colapsed into a black hole.

Bad communicator? Haha and a lazy thinker. How efficient.

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,08:44

Joe, Neptune has more mass than Uranus - but Uranus is bigger.

How can this be?

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,08:53

Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 03 2014,08:44)

Joe, Neptune has more mass than Uranus - but Uranus is bigger.

How can this be?

Joe's Anus is bigger than everything. THAT'S HOW.

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,09:32

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Joe, Neptune has more mass than Uranus - but Uranus is bigger.

How can this be?

Joe's Anus is bigger than everything. THAT'S HOW.

I've never been able to differentiate between Joe and his Anus. Are they not the same?

Edit: capitalized anus.

Edited by Quack on Nov. 03 2014,09:33

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,10:46

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Joe, Neptune has more mass than Uranus - but Uranus is bigger.

How can this be?

Joe's Anus is bigger than everything. THAT'S HOW.

I've never been able to differentiate between Joe and his Anus. Are they not the same?

Edit: capitalized anus.

It's easy. The caek goes into Joe. The words come out of his anus.

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,16:14

We should be happy to have a genius like Joe and his Anus here to resolve scientific issues. I don't know what to think before I know if this is in accordance with his model of the universe?

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Posted: Nov. 03 2014,16:45

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 03 2014,08:53)

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Joe, Neptune has more mass than Uranus - but Uranus is bigger.

How can this be?

Joe's Anus is bigger than everything. THAT'S HOW.

Surely this qualifies as PotW?

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Posted: Nov. 05 2014,10:28

Speaking of joey's anus, here is some excrement from it:

Alan Fox: "Saying some things clearly exhibit CSI without explaining which things and how this is established is not saying much."

joey: "Then it is a good thing that we say which things have CSI."

Hmm, let me guess, the things with CSI are the things with CSI, right joey? Now, which things are they joey, and exactly how did you determine that? Show your work.

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Posted: Nov. 05 2014,11:03

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 05 2014,08:28)

Speaking of joey's anus, here is some excrement from it:

Alan Fox: "Saying some things clearly exhibit CSI without explaining which things and how this is established is not saying much."

joey: "Then it is a good thing that we say which things have CSI."

Hmm, let me guess, the things with CSI are the things with CSI, right joey? Now, which things are they joey, and exactly how did you determine that? Show your work.

Things have CSI if they look designed.

If it looks designed to me, it has CSI.

If it looks designed to me and my preacher, it has more CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, and Barry/Gordon/Denyse, it has a shitload of CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, Barry, Gordon, Denyse, and Joe, it has the largest known number of CSI.

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Posted: Nov. 05 2014,12:23

Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 05 2014,09:03)

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 05 2014,08:28)

Speaking of joey's anus, here is some excrement from it:

Alan Fox: "Saying some things clearly exhibit CSI without explaining which things and how this is established is not saying much."

joey: "Then it is a good thing that we say which things have CSI."

Hmm, let me guess, the things with CSI are the things with CSI, right joey? Now, which things are they joey, and exactly how did you determine that? Show your work.

Things have CSI if they look designed.

If it looks designed to me, it has CSI.

If it looks designed to me and my preacher, it has more CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, and Barry/Gordon/Denyse, it has a shitload of CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, Barry, Gordon, Denyse, and Joe, it has the largest known number of CSI.

If I may, I'd like to add this to your list:

joey: 'A caek recipe is CSI, therefor a simple definition of an aardvark is CSI, therefor Allah.'

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,12:23

Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 06 2014,10:36)

That's sort of the point WT.

The entire field of encryption just blows IDs claims out of the water. Encryption and scrambling are designed to make a designed piece of information look totally random.

Since the information was designed (the thing being said) and the encryption algorithm was designed, and the results of the encryption are purely deterministic (they have to be or it can't be decrypted), then ID should easily be able to determine whether a string is random noise or intelligently designed encryption.

That they can't (and have refused to even attempt it on no fewer than 20 attempts over the last few years), is very telling.

Kevin, you don't even know what ID claims. The entire field of encryption doesn't have anything to do with what ID claims. Why is it that you just say shit about ID without ever referencing what you say?

OTOH, evolutionary biologists not only make the claim to be able to do what you ask, they say they have done so. SETI is also claiming to be able to determine an intelligently designed signal from noise. Then there are various agencies, companies and countries that are involved with encryption. Meaning the field is well covered and ID wouldn't do anything any differently.

Fucking idiot...

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,12:27

Quote (Driver @ Nov. 03 2014,07:52)

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Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 03 2014,14:40)

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Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 24 2014,12:35)

Quote (Driver @ Oct. 23 2014,03:12)

Quote (Joe G @ Oct. 21 2014,14:48)

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Fishy bite. Heh.

I like the claim about moving the sun making it act like a black hole. Joe, will you show your calculations proving the "black hole effect" or will you dazzle us with your inspired retorts?

Or just run away for a bit?

Show me where I made that claim

I'm asking for your calculations to show that if the sun were "moved into the space of the orbit of Mars" everything would fall into it.

Show me where I made that claim.

Umm that wasn't about moving the Sun to Mars' orbit. It pertains to the mass of the Sun being such that its diameter was that of the orbit of Mars.

Joe do you even know what mass and diameter are?

Yes, I do. Do you have a point?

Do blue giants have both (large diameter and a large amount of mass)?

The thing with black holes is not so much that they are massive, but that they are relatively small. That's not to say that some black holes aren't very massive. It makes no more sense to talk about increasing the diameter of the sun causing a black hole effect than it does to talk about the orbit of the sun causing a black hole effect.

Joe, it is not that you don't know things that makes you a figure of fun. You spend so much effort making up more and more silly stuff rather than admit you were wrong that it reaches legendary proportions.

So you assholes are saying there could never be a situation in which a star is both larger in diameter and has more mass than our Sun?

Do you think that changing the context of the discussion I was having years ago helps you, somehow? Really?

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,12:31

Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 05 2014,11:03)

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 05 2014,08:28)

Speaking of joey's anus, here is some excrement from it:

Alan Fox: "Saying some things clearly exhibit CSI without explaining which things and how this is established is not saying much."

joey: "Then it is a good thing that we say which things have CSI."

Hmm, let me guess, the things with CSI are the things with CSI, right joey? Now, which things are they joey, and exactly how did you determine that? Show your work.

Things have CSI if they look designed.

If it looks designed to me, it has CSI.

If it looks designed to me and my preacher, it has more CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, and Barry/Gordon/Denyse, it has a shitload of CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, Barry, Gordon, Denyse, and Joe, it has the largest known number of CSI.

Look we have told you how to measure and calculate CSI. And we don't care what you call it. Crick called it "biological information". We go with that and your position doesn't have a mechanism that can account for it.

And we understand how upset that gets you.

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,12:47

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 06 2014,12:23)

Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 06 2014,10:36)

That's sort of the point WT.

The entire field of encryption just blows IDs claims out of the water. Encryption and scrambling are designed to make a designed piece of information look totally random.

Since the information was designed (the thing being said) and the encryption algorithm was designed, and the results of the encryption are purely deterministic (they have to be or it can't be decrypted), then ID should easily be able to determine whether a string is random noise or intelligently designed encryption.

That they can't (and have refused to even attempt it on no fewer than 20 attempts over the last few years), is very telling.

Kevin, you don't even know what ID claims. The entire field of encryption doesn't have anything to do with what ID claims. Why is it that you just say shit about ID without ever referencing what you say?

OTOH, evolutionary biologists not only make the claim to be able to do what you ask, they say they have done so. SETI is also claiming to be able to determine an intelligently designed signal from noise. Then there are various agencies, companies and countries that are involved with encryption. Meaning the field is well covered and ID wouldn't do anything any differently.

Fucking idiot...

Hi Joe. It's nice to be able to talk to you again. Please correct me if I am wrong.

1) ID is about the ability to objectively detect design.

2) ID claims to have a mathematical process for doing this.

3) This objective and mathematical process to detect design, can't detect design in encrypted text, something that is doubly designed.

If these three basic points are correct, then the ID tools developed to detect design, cannot detect design in something that is obviously designed. Do you not think that this is a problem?

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,13:07

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 06 2014,12:31)

Look we have told you how to measure and calculate CSI.

No you haven't, as evidenced by your own inability to do it. When you tried, the results were hilarious and became a great chapter in the ongoing series "Chubby Gallien's Butthurt over getting scientific things wrong" (Vol 29, issue 11 I believe).

But Keep going Joe, you make ID look even worse and expose their hypocrisy.

*high five*

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,13:09

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 06 2014,12:47)

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 06 2014,12:23)

Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 06 2014,10:36)

That's sort of the point WT.

The entire field of encryption just blows IDs claims out of the water. Encryption and scrambling are designed to make a designed piece of information look totally random.

Since the information was designed (the thing being said) and the encryption algorithm was designed, and the results of the encryption are purely deterministic (they have to be or it can't be decrypted), then ID should easily be able to determine whether a string is random noise or intelligently designed encryption.

That they can't (and have refused to even attempt it on no fewer than 20 attempts over the last few years), is very telling.

Kevin, you don't even know what ID claims. The entire field of encryption doesn't have anything to do with what ID claims. Why is it that you just say shit about ID without ever referencing what you say?

OTOH, evolutionary biologists not only make the claim to be able to do what you ask, they say they have done so. SETI is also claiming to be able to determine an intelligently designed signal from noise. Then there are various agencies, companies and countries that are involved with encryption. Meaning the field is well covered and ID wouldn't do anything any differently.

Fucking idiot...

Hi Joe. It's nice to be able to talk to you again. Please correct me if I am wrong.

1) ID is about the ability to objectively detect design.

2) ID claims to have a mathematical process for doing this.

3) This objective and mathematical process to detect design, can't detect design in encrypted text, something that is doubly designed.

If these three basic points are correct, then the ID tools developed to detect design, cannot detect design in something that is obviously designed. Do you not think that this is a problem?

And, Joey conveniently forgets after thousands of attempts to explain to him that SETI is looking for a signal that cannot have come from natural sources.

Actually, what Joey is doing is lying here. He is lying because he knows that SETI is specifically looking for signals that cannot come from a natural source and yet he keeps repeating this claim.

Anyway, Joey (nor any ID person) has ever been able to show that something was designed or not when they didn't already "know" the answer. Of course, some ID proponents claim that everything is designed... which renders it an utterly useless concept anyway.

But back to encryption. Given a string of random nucleotides and a string of nucleotides that are known to be designed (because a human designed it), can you determine which is which?

Now, we encrypt both of them with the same algorithm. Can you determine which is which?

Show your work. I'll be happy to provide the strings. I've been making this offer for several years now. It's a perfect chance for you to show that you have something valuable. Why do you always chicken out though?

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,15:25

Quote (Joe G @ Nov. 06 2014,10:31)

Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 05 2014,11:03)

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 05 2014,08:28)

Speaking of joey's anus, here is some excrement from it:

Alan Fox: "Saying some things clearly exhibit CSI without explaining which things and how this is established is not saying much."

joey: "Then it is a good thing that we say which things have CSI."

Hmm, let me guess, the things with CSI are the things with CSI, right joey? Now, which things are they joey, and exactly how did you determine that? Show your work.

Things have CSI if they look designed.

If it looks designed to me, it has CSI.

If it looks designed to me and my preacher, it has more CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, and Barry/Gordon/Denyse, it has a shitload of CSI.

If it looks designed to me, my preacher, Barry, Gordon, Denyse, and Joe, it has the largest known number of CSI.

Look we have told you how to measure and calculate CSI. And we don't care what you call it. Crick called it "biological information". We go with that and your position doesn't have a mechanism that can account for it.

And we understand how upset that gets you.

I showed you how to calculate CSI right up there, caekboy. In a much more quantitative manner (some < more < a shitload < largest known number) than any creationist has EVAR managed.

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,16:55

Hey joey, over in the uncommonly dense thread take a look at my comments today. There's one with a string, some points about ID-CSI-IC, and a question in it that you can put your rootin' tootin' high falootin' ID tools-methods to work on. Go ahead joey, show your stuff.

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,17:02

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 06 2014,16:55)

Hey joey, over in the uncommonly dense thread take a look at my comments today. There's one with a string, some points about ID-CSI-IC, and a question in it that you can put your rootin' tootin' high falootin' ID tools-methods to work on. Go ahead joey, show your stuff.

I predict the response will be "It's not relevant... moron."

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,17:08

Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 06 2014,15:02)

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 06 2014,16:55)

Hey joey, over in the uncommonly dense thread take a look at my comments today. There's one with a string, some points about ID-CSI-IC, and a question in it that you can put your rootin' tootin' high falootin' ID tools-methods to work on. Go ahead joey, show your stuff.

I predict the response will be "It's not relevant... moron."

Or the ever-popular "we already showed you how to do that, asshole."

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,17:09

Quote (OgreMkV @ Nov. 06 2014,17:02)

Quote (The whole truth @ Nov. 06 2014,16:55)

Hey joey, over in the uncommonly dense thread take a look at my comments today. There's one with a string, some points about ID-CSI-IC, and a question in it that you can put your rootin' tootin' high falootin' ID tools-methods to work on. Go ahead joey, show your stuff.

I predict the response will be "It's not relevant... moron."

You forgot a "fuck you".

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,17:10

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If these three basic points are correct, then the ID tools developed to detect design, cannot detect design in something that is obviously designed. Do you not think that this is a problem?

That's a pretty serious 'false negative' problem. Among the several other fatal problems in ID.

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,18:13

Wow, Joe must have cried some epic sob-story to KF, who lapped it up:

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kairosfocusNovember 6, 2014 at 4:51 pm
Adapa, Please, read carefully. I have never endorsed Joe in misbehaviour but have indicated he has had serious provocation which we should understand. Have you ever had someone accuse you to your boss to try to rob you unjustly of employment, or play at locking you out, or threaten you or family? Have you ever faced for instance racial discrimination and accusation — this is getting too close to that for any reasonable person to be comfortable; that’s like how Southern US soldiers in England during the ’40′s thought they could push West Indian soldiers and airmen around as they were used to doing with intimidated Southern Blacks back home — they learned a few very hard lessons. I don’t agree with what bullied or attacked West Indian soldiers did in retaliation, but I can understand that the black soldiers were provoked. It therefore seems to me that something is very wrong here with your response, wrong in a way that looks all too familiar with those who refused to see racial provocation. Please, think again. And yes, this situation is taking on the tone of too many ill-bred objectors to design thought imagining they have a right to be bullies and worse. Do you really want to enable those who are going down that kind of road? When I see signs of willingness to acknowledge grievous and even habitual wrongdoing by far too many objectors to design thought, or anything that reminds them of God, and to correct that wrong-doing, I will take concerns more seriously. Meanwhile, it should be quite clear to the reasonable onlooker that so soon as the troll vaults were opened there was a wave of abusive commentary at UD that has begun to echo a penumbra of sites whose level of behaviour has gone well beyond the pale of decency. That misbehaviour has to be addressed, and it is obvious from the thread owner’s comments that it is addressing abuse on both sides of the issue. Let the onlooker also notice that all of this is on side tracks from the pivotal issues. That is no coincidence. KF

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,18:20

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Wow, Joe must have cried some epic sob-story to KF, who lapped it up:

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kairosfocusNovember 6, 2014 at 4:51 pm
Adapa, Please, read carefully. I have never endorsed Joe in misbehaviour but have indicated he has had serious provocation which we should understand. Have you ever had someone accuse you to your boss to try to rob you unjustly of employment, or play at locking you out, or threaten you or family? Have you ever faced for instance racial discrimination and accusation — this is getting too close to that for any reasonable person to be comfortable; that’s like how Southern US soldiers in England during the ’40′s thought they could push West Indian soldiers and airmen around as they were used to doing with intimidated Southern Blacks back home — they learned a few very hard lessons. I don’t agree with what bullied or attacked West Indian soldiers did in retaliation, but I can understand that the black soldiers were provoked. It therefore seems to me that something is very wrong here with your response, wrong in a way that looks all too familiar with those who refused to see racial provocation. Please, think again. And yes, this situation is taking on the tone of too many ill-bred objectors to design thought imagining they have a right to be bullies and worse. Do you really want to enable those who are going down that kind of road? When I see signs of willingness to acknowledge grievous and even habitual wrongdoing by far too many objectors to design thought, or anything that reminds them of God, and to correct that wrong-doing, I will take concerns more seriously. Meanwhile, it should be quite clear to the reasonable onlooker that so soon as the troll vaults were opened there was a wave of abusive commentary at UD that has begun to echo a penumbra of sites whose level of behaviour has gone well beyond the pale of decency. That misbehaviour has to be addressed, and it is obvious from the thread owner’s comments that it is addressing abuse on both sides of the issue. Let the onlooker also notice that all of this is on side tracks from the pivotal issues. That is no coincidence. KF

The first couple of sentences sound like Gordon's been given a version of Joe's making-threats-on-a-work-computer incident. Without the making-threats-on-a-work-computer part.

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Posted: Nov. 06 2014,21:34

joey says: "Certainly we cannot study the alleged humans who designed and built Stonehenge."

Yep, we need a flying saucer that can get us to Planet of the Ticks in the Watermelon Galaxy if we want to study who designed and built Stonehenge.

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