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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2018,23:00   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 04 2018,18:52)
Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution.


GIN!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,03:31   

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 05 2018,07:00)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 04 2018,18:52)
Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution.


GIN!!!

TRUMPS!

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:38   

keiths continues to puke all over himself when it comes to nested hierarchies. And even though it has been proven that Doug Theobald is totally wrong keiths continues to reference him on nested hierarchies. Theobald wrongly spews:

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The only known processes that specifically generate unique, nested, hierarchical patterns are branching evolutionary processes.


WRONG! Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Clearly Theobald is ignorant of nested hierarchies. He goes on to spew:  

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It would be very problematic if many species were found that combined characteristics of different nested groupings


Umm, TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

But Doug's biggest mistake was saying that phylogenies form a nested hierarchy- they don't as explained in the Knox paper-  “The use of hierarchies as organizational models in systematics”, Biological Journal of the Linnaean Society, 63: 1–49, 1998.

And for fuck's sake even Darwin knew that if you tried to include all of the alleged transitional forms you couldn't form distinguished groups:    

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Extinction has only defined the groups: it has by no means made them; for if every form which has ever lived on this earth were suddenly to reappear, though it would be quite impossible to give definitions by which each group could be distinguished, still a natural classification, or at least a natural arrangement, would be possible.- Charles Darwin chapter 14



Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups- again see Linnaean Taxonomy. AND nested hierarchies are artificial constructs.

So only by cherry picking would Common Descent yield a nested hierarchy.

And I understand why the losers here don't want to discuss it.

Zachriel, Alan Fox and John Harshman are also totally ignorant when it comes to nested hierarchies. Now I know why I was banned from the skeptical zone- so I couldn't refute their nonsense to their faces. This way they can continue to ignore reality and prattle on like a bunch of ignoramuses.

Sad, really. Here is another hint from the Knox paper:

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Regardless of what is eventually learned about the evolution of Clarkia/Heterogaura, the complex nature of evolutionary processes yields patterns that are more complex than can be represented by the simple hierarchical models of either monophyletic systematization or Linnaean classification.


Notice the either or at the end? Only Linnaean classification is the objective nested hierarchy with respect to biology. And what does UC Berkley say about Linnaean classification?:  

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Most of us are accustomed to the Linnaean system of classification that assigns every organism a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species, which, among other possibilities, has the handy mnemonic King Philip Came Over For Good Soup. This system was created long before scientists understood that organisms evolved. Because the Linnaean system is not based on evolution, most biologists are switching to a classification system that reflects the organisms' evolutionary history.



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*The standard system of classification in which every organism is assigned a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species. This system groups organisms into ever smaller and smaller groups (like a series of boxes within boxes, called a nested hierarchy).


It was based on a common design scheme.

Davey's ignorant call of "special pleading" is just its cowardice. Davey will never be able to actually make a valid case for it. And I am more than OK with that.

My Challenge to Davey still stands- I will gladly debate him on a neutral forum about nested hierarchies. And then have the readers vote on who won

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:40   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,21:02)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:52)
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Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:44)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:42)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:40)
Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Fact and it proves Theobald is wrong

TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

Another fact that even Darwin acknowledged. Denton goes over this in "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis"

Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups-

Fact

So only if facts and proving the opposition wrong are called special pleading could my post be considered special pleading.

AND yet NOTHING on PubMed to support your special pleading.

There isn't anything but your ignorance to suggest any sort of special pleading on my part. There isn't anything in PubMed that supports evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

Then why are there over 500,000 papers on PubMed that reference evolution?

Your SPECIAL PLEADING is duly noted.

Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution. Your cowardly equivocation is duly noted.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District/4:Whether ID Is Science;Creationism in a Cheap Tuxedo

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4. Whether ID is Science[edit]
After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980's; and (3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. (9:19-22 (Haught); 5:25-29 (Pennock); 1:62 (Miller)). This

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revolution entailed the rejection of the appeal to authority, and by extension, revelation, in favor of empirical evidence. (5:28 (Pennock)). Since that time period, science has been a discipline in which testability, rather than any ecclesiastical authority or philosophical coherence, has been the measure of a scientific idea’s worth. (9:21-22 (Haught); 1:63 (Miller)). In deliberately omitting theological or “ultimate” explanations for the existence or characteristics of the natural world, science does not consider issues of “meaning” and “purpose” in the world. (9:21 (Haught); 1:64, 87 (Miller)). While supernatural explanations may be important and have merit, they are not part of science. (3:103 (Miller); 9:19-20 (Haught)). This self-imposed convention of science, which limits inquiry to testable, natural explanations about the natural world, is referred to by philosophers as “methodological naturalism” and is sometimes known as the scientific method. (5:23, 29-30 (Pennock)). Methodological naturalism is a “ground rule” of science today which requires scientists to seek explanations in the world around us based upon what we can observe, test, replicate, and verify. (1:59-64, 2:41-43 (Miller); 5:8, 23-30 (Pennock)).

As the National Academy of Sciences (hereinafter “NAS”) was recognized by experts for both parties as the “most prestigious” scientific association in this country, we will accordingly cite to its opinion where appropriate. (1:94, 160-61

LoL! An ignorant judge's decision is meaningless. That moron bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff.

Only cowardly morons thing that a judge can decide what is and isn't science. ID, unlike evolutionism, makes testable claims.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:40   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 04 2018,22:19)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 04 2018,19:21)
Weight has always been part of size

Like the reason you wear waste size 54" length 30" jeans?

Surely that should be "waist 219MHz, length 394MHz"

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:42   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:47   

Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution

ID is OK with descent with modification, ie evolution

ID is OK with heritable mutations

ID is OK with a change in allele frequency over time, ie evolution

So only the willfully ignorant say that ID is anti-evolution. And only cowardly equivocators think that papers on "evolution" support evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

If we use Judge Jones' criteria then the papers have to explicitly state they are in support of such a concept.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:48   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 04 2018,22:19)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 04 2018,19:21)
Weight has always been part of size

Like the reason you wear waste size 54" length 30" jeans?

Except my waist is 36", my inseam 32" and my chest is 52".

I will stick with reality over tiny timmy's fantasy

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:55   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:42)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:56   

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(1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation


ID does not require the supernatural. Two ID experts testified to that fact. Jones ignored them and bought the lies of the plaintiffs.

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(2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980's;


Translation- Jones was ignorant of the concept

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(3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community


That is a big fat LIE.

No one knows how to test the claim that blind and mindless processes produced any biological system or multi-protein machine.

Even the testimony of the alleged evolution of whales used Lamarkian terms, meaning everything was laid out in anatomical and not genetic terms. The same goes for eyes and vision systems.

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Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. (9:19-22 (Haught); 5:25-29 (Pennock); 1:62 (Miller)).


Another lie. The big name scientists of that time used science as a way of understanding God's Creation. Newton, Kepler, Copernicus all saw science as a way of understanding God's Creation.

Science is not limited by man's arbitrary definitions. And those same definitions cannot rescue anyone if those very definitions are in dispute, which they are.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,08:57   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,08:55)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:42)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:00   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:47)
Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution

ID is OK with descent with modification, ie evolution

ID is OK with heritable mutations

ID is OK with a change in allele frequency over time, ie evolution

So only the willfully ignorant say that ID is anti-evolution. And only cowardly equivocators think that papers on "evolution" support evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

If we use Judge Jones' criteria then the papers have to explicitly state they are in support of such a concept.

And yet NO PubMed references to any of those Creationist talking points AKA SPECIAL PLEADING

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:03   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:57)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,08:55)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:42)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
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Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.


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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:06   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:00)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:47)
Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution

ID is OK with descent with modification, ie evolution

ID is OK with heritable mutations

ID is OK with a change in allele frequency over time, ie evolution

So only the willfully ignorant say that ID is anti-evolution. And only cowardly equivocators think that papers on "evolution" support evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

If we use Judge Jones' criteria then the papers have to explicitly state they are in support of such a concept.

And yet NO PubMed references to any of those Creationist talking points AKA SPECIAL PLEADING

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena.

Except the scientific community hasn't refuted anything. PubMed is devoid of such articles

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:07   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:03)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:57)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,08:55)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:42)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
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Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.

Too bad what I said doesn't match the definition provided.

You lose, loser

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:08   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:00)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:47)
Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution

ID is OK with descent with modification, ie evolution

ID is OK with heritable mutations

ID is OK with a change in allele frequency over time, ie evolution

So only the willfully ignorant say that ID is anti-evolution. And only cowardly equivocators think that papers on "evolution" support evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

If we use Judge Jones' criteria then the papers have to explicitly state they are in support of such a concept.

And yet NO PubMed references to any of those Creationist talking points AKA SPECIAL PLEADING

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena.

Davey sez fuck the facts and fuck reality. Davey wallows in its willful ignorance

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:09   

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Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Fact and it proves Theobald is wrong

TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

Another fact that even Darwin acknowledged. Denton goes over this in "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis"

Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups-

Fact

So only if facts and proving the opposition wrong are called special pleading could my post be considered special pleading.

AND yet NOTHING on PubMed to support your special pleading.

There isn't anything but your ignorance to suggest any sort of special pleading on my part. There isn't anything in PubMed that supports evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

Then why are there over 500,000 papers on PubMed that reference evolution?

Your SPECIAL PLEADING is duly noted.

Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution. Your cowardly equivocation is duly noted.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District/4:Whether ID Is Science;Creationism in a Cheap Tuxedo

 
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4. Whether ID is Science[edit]
After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980's; and (3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. (9:19-22 (Haught); 5:25-29 (Pennock); 1:62 (Miller)). This

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revolution entailed the rejection of the appeal to authority, and by extension, revelation, in favor of empirical evidence. (5:28 (Pennock)). Since that time period, science has been a discipline in which testability, rather than any ecclesiastical authority or philosophical coherence, has been the measure of a scientific idea’s worth. (9:21-22 (Haught); 1:63 (Miller)). In deliberately omitting theological or “ultimate” explanations for the existence or characteristics of the natural world, science does not consider issues of “meaning” and “purpose” in the world. (9:21 (Haught); 1:64, 87 (Miller)). While supernatural explanations may be important and have merit, they are not part of science. (3:103 (Miller); 9:19-20 (Haught)). This self-imposed convention of science, which limits inquiry to testable, natural explanations about the natural world, is referred to by philosophers as “methodological naturalism” and is sometimes known as the scientific method. (5:23, 29-30 (Pennock)). Methodological naturalism is a “ground rule” of science today which requires scientists to seek explanations in the world around us based upon what we can observe, test, replicate, and verify. (1:59-64, 2:41-43 (Miller); 5:8, 23-30 (Pennock)).

As the National Academy of Sciences (hereinafter “NAS”) was recognized by experts for both parties as the “most prestigious” scientific association in this country, we will accordingly cite to its opinion where appropriate. (1:94, 160-61

LoL! An ignorant judge's decision is meaningless. That moron bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff.

Only cowardly morons thing that a judge can decide what is and isn't science. ID, unlike evolutionism, makes testable claims.

John E. Jones III

Joe Tard

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:13   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:08)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:00)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:47)
Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution

ID is OK with descent with modification, ie evolution

ID is OK with heritable mutations

ID is OK with a change in allele frequency over time, ie evolution

So only the willfully ignorant say that ID is anti-evolution. And only cowardly equivocators think that papers on "evolution" support evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

If we use Judge Jones' criteria then the papers have to explicitly state they are in support of such a concept.

And yet NO PubMed references to any of those Creationist talking points AKA SPECIAL PLEADING

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena.

k.e.. Joe Tard  sez fuck the facts and fuck reality. k.e.. Joe Tard wallows in its willful ignorance

Fixed Joe tard. BTW who is Davey?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:14   

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Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Fact and it proves Theobald is wrong

TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

Another fact that even Darwin acknowledged. Denton goes over this in "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis"

Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups-

Fact

So only if facts and proving the opposition wrong are called special pleading could my post be considered special pleading.

AND yet NOTHING on PubMed to support your special pleading.

There isn't anything but your ignorance to suggest any sort of special pleading on my part. There isn't anything in PubMed that supports evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

Then why are there over 500,000 papers on PubMed that reference evolution?

Your SPECIAL PLEADING is duly noted.

Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution. Your cowardly equivocation is duly noted.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District/4:Whether ID Is Science;Creationism in a Cheap Tuxedo

 
Quote
4. Whether ID is Science[edit]
After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980's; and (3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. (9:19-22 (Haught); 5:25-29 (Pennock); 1:62 (Miller)). This

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revolution entailed the rejection of the appeal to authority, and by extension, revelation, in favor of empirical evidence. (5:28 (Pennock)). Since that time period, science has been a discipline in which testability, rather than any ecclesiastical authority or philosophical coherence, has been the measure of a scientific idea’s worth. (9:21-22 (Haught); 1:63 (Miller)). In deliberately omitting theological or “ultimate” explanations for the existence or characteristics of the natural world, science does not consider issues of “meaning” and “purpose” in the world. (9:21 (Haught); 1:64, 87 (Miller)). While supernatural explanations may be important and have merit, they are not part of science. (3:103 (Miller); 9:19-20 (Haught)). This self-imposed convention of science, which limits inquiry to testable, natural explanations about the natural world, is referred to by philosophers as “methodological naturalism” and is sometimes known as the scientific method. (5:23, 29-30 (Pennock)). Methodological naturalism is a “ground rule” of science today which requires scientists to seek explanations in the world around us based upon what we can observe, test, replicate, and verify. (1:59-64, 2:41-43 (Miller); 5:8, 23-30 (Pennock)).

As the National Academy of Sciences (hereinafter “NAS”) was recognized by experts for both parties as the “most prestigious” scientific association in this country, we will accordingly cite to its opinion where appropriate. (1:94, 160-61

LoL! An ignorant judge's decision is meaningless. That moron bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff.

Only cowardly morons thing that a judge can decide what is and isn't science. ID, unlike evolutionism, makes testable claims.

John E. Jones III

Joe Tard

Yes, Judge John E Jones III was an ignorant loser who bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:15   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:07)
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Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
 
Quote
Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.

Too bad what I said doesn't match the definition provided.

You lose, loser

Too bad YOU CAN'T MEASURE TIME WITH A TAPE MEASURE Joe tard.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:15   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:13)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:08)
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Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:47)
Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution

ID is OK with descent with modification, ie evolution

ID is OK with heritable mutations

ID is OK with a change in allele frequency over time, ie evolution

So only the willfully ignorant say that ID is anti-evolution. And only cowardly equivocators think that papers on "evolution" support evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

If we use Judge Jones' criteria then the papers have to explicitly state they are in support of such a concept.

And yet NO PubMed references to any of those Creationist talking points AKA SPECIAL PLEADING

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena.

k.e.. Joe Tard  sez fuck the facts and fuck reality. k.e.. Joe Tard wallows in its willful ignorance

Fixed Joe tard. BTW who is Davey?

Special pleading

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:15   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:15)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:07)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:03)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:57)
 
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Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
 
Quote
Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.

Too bad what I said doesn't match the definition provided.

You lose, loser

Too bad YOU CAN'T MEASURE TIME WITH A TAPE MEASURE Joe tard.

Don't have to. That is not the CONTEXT in which frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



Posts: 12011
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:18   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:15)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:07)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:03)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:57)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,08:55)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:42)
   
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
 
Quote
Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.

Too bad what I said doesn't match the definition provided.

You lose, loser

Too bad YOU CAN'T MEASURE TIME WITH A TAPE MEASURE Joe tard.

Special pleading

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
k.e..



Posts: 5432
Joined: May 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:19   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:14)
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Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Fact and it proves Theobald is wrong

TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

Another fact that even Darwin acknowledged. Denton goes over this in "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis"

Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups-

Fact

So only if facts and proving the opposition wrong are called special pleading could my post be considered special pleading.

AND yet NOTHING on PubMed to support your special pleading.

There isn't anything but your ignorance to suggest any sort of special pleading on my part. There isn't anything in PubMed that supports evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

Then why are there over 500,000 papers on PubMed that reference evolution?

Your SPECIAL PLEADING is duly noted.

Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution. Your cowardly equivocation is duly noted.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District/4:Whether ID Is Science;Creationism in a Cheap Tuxedo

   
Quote
4. Whether ID is Science[edit]
After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980's; and (3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. (9:19-22 (Haught); 5:25-29 (Pennock); 1:62 (Miller)). This

Page 65 of 139[edit]
revolution entailed the rejection of the appeal to authority, and by extension, revelation, in favor of empirical evidence. (5:28 (Pennock)). Since that time period, science has been a discipline in which testability, rather than any ecclesiastical authority or philosophical coherence, has been the measure of a scientific idea’s worth. (9:21-22 (Haught); 1:63 (Miller)). In deliberately omitting theological or “ultimate” explanations for the existence or characteristics of the natural world, science does not consider issues of “meaning” and “purpose” in the world. (9:21 (Haught); 1:64, 87 (Miller)). While supernatural explanations may be important and have merit, they are not part of science. (3:103 (Miller); 9:19-20 (Haught)). This self-imposed convention of science, which limits inquiry to testable, natural explanations about the natural world, is referred to by philosophers as “methodological naturalism” and is sometimes known as the scientific method. (5:23, 29-30 (Pennock)). Methodological naturalism is a “ground rule” of science today which requires scientists to seek explanations in the world around us based upon what we can observe, test, replicate, and verify. (1:59-64, 2:41-43 (Miller); 5:8, 23-30 (Pennock)).

As the National Academy of Sciences (hereinafter “NAS”) was recognized by experts for both parties as the “most prestigious” scientific association in this country, we will accordingly cite to its opinion where appropriate. (1:94, 160-61

LoL! An ignorant judge's decision is meaningless. That moron bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff.

Only cowardly morons thing that a judge can decide what is and isn't science. ID, unlike evolutionism, makes testable claims.

John E. Jones III

Joe Tard

Yes, Judge John E Jones III was an ignorant loser who bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff

MOAR Special pleading from Joe Tard.

Hey Joe you have plenty of spare cash why don't you appeal the decision?

Think of the upside. If you won ID wouldn't violate the establishment clause in the constitution and  ID could be taught in high school science classes.

Is that going to happen?


No because Joe is a MORON.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:20   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:18)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:15)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:07)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:03)
 
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Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:42)
     
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
   
Quote
Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.

Too bad what I said doesn't match the definition provided.

You lose, loser

Too bad YOU CAN'T MEASURE TIME WITH A TAPE MEASURE Joe tard.

Special pleading

oh weak and ronery Joe.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:28   

Hey Joe you have plenty of spare cash why don't you appeal the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District decision?

Put your mouth full of silver where your blog posts are special pleading boy.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:29   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:19)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:14)
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:09)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:40)
 
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Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Fact and it proves Theobald is wrong

TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

Another fact that even Darwin acknowledged. Denton goes over this in "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis"

Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups-

Fact

So only if facts and proving the opposition wrong are called special pleading could my post be considered special pleading.

AND yet NOTHING on PubMed to support your special pleading.

There isn't anything but your ignorance to suggest any sort of special pleading on my part. There isn't anything in PubMed that supports evolution by means of blind and mindless processes.

Then why are there over 500,000 papers on PubMed that reference evolution?

Your SPECIAL PLEADING is duly noted.

Intelligent Design is NOT anti-evolution. Your cowardly equivocation is duly noted.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District/4:Whether ID Is Science;Creationism in a Cheap Tuxedo

   
Quote
4. Whether ID is Science[edit]
After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1) ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980's; and (3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the subject of testing and research. Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. (9:19-22 (Haught); 5:25-29 (Pennock); 1:62 (Miller)). This

Page 65 of 139[edit]
revolution entailed the rejection of the appeal to authority, and by extension, revelation, in favor of empirical evidence. (5:28 (Pennock)). Since that time period, science has been a discipline in which testability, rather than any ecclesiastical authority or philosophical coherence, has been the measure of a scientific idea’s worth. (9:21-22 (Haught); 1:63 (Miller)). In deliberately omitting theological or “ultimate” explanations for the existence or characteristics of the natural world, science does not consider issues of “meaning” and “purpose” in the world. (9:21 (Haught); 1:64, 87 (Miller)). While supernatural explanations may be important and have merit, they are not part of science. (3:103 (Miller); 9:19-20 (Haught)). This self-imposed convention of science, which limits inquiry to testable, natural explanations about the natural world, is referred to by philosophers as “methodological naturalism” and is sometimes known as the scientific method. (5:23, 29-30 (Pennock)). Methodological naturalism is a “ground rule” of science today which requires scientists to seek explanations in the world around us based upon what we can observe, test, replicate, and verify. (1:59-64, 2:41-43 (Miller); 5:8, 23-30 (Pennock)).

As the National Academy of Sciences (hereinafter “NAS”) was recognized by experts for both parties as the “most prestigious” scientific association in this country, we will accordingly cite to its opinion where appropriate. (1:94, 160-61

LoL! An ignorant judge's decision is meaningless. That moron bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff.

Only cowardly morons thing that a judge can decide what is and isn't science. ID, unlike evolutionism, makes testable claims.

John E. Jones III

Joe Tard

Yes, Judge John E Jones III was an ignorant loser who bought the lies of the plaintiffs and was fooled by a literature bluff

MOAR Special pleading from Joe Tard.

Hey Joe you have plenty of spare cash why don't you appeal the decision?

Think of the upside. If you won ID wouldn't violate the establishment clause in the constitution and  ID could be taught in high school science classes.

Is that going to happen?


No because Joe is a MORON.

Special pleading

--------------
"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



Posts: 12011
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:30   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:28)
Hey Joe you have plenty of spare cash why don't you appeal the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District decision?

Put your mouth full of silver where your blog posts are special pleading boy.

Special pleading

--------------
"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



Posts: 12011
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:30   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 05 2018,09:20)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:18)
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Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
       
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
   
Quote
Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.

Too bad what I said doesn't match the definition provided.

You lose, loser

Too bad YOU CAN'T MEASURE TIME WITH A TAPE MEASURE Joe tard.

Special pleading

oh weak and ronery Joe.

Special pleading

--------------
"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
k.e..



Posts: 5432
Joined: May 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2018,09:38   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,17:30)
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Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,16:42)
       
Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 04 2018,20:53)
       
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 05 2018,04:50)
Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable

Prove that you can use a tape measure to measure time.

Learn how to read, Davey:


Proof that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context:

2200 meters – 135.7–137.8 kHz

630 meters – 472–479 kHz
160 meters – 1800–2000 kHz

FAIL Joe.

Mouth breathing meaningless SPECIAL PLEADING.

The speed of light is CONSTANT those figures are NOT direct conversions.

Interchangeable, Davey. the link proves that frequency and wavelength are interchangeable in a specific context.

That you are too stupid to understand that reflects on you, not me

Joes "specific context." = SPECIAL PLEADING

Special Pleading
     
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Special Pleading
Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification.  Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason.

Too bad what I said doesn't match the definition provided.

You lose, loser

Too bad YOU CAN'T MEASURE TIME WITH A TAPE MEASURE Joe tard.

Special pleading

oh weak and ronery Joe.

Special pleading

Special pleading Joe Tard without a hint of self awareness and a cherry on top.

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