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Bueller_007 Posts: 39 Joined: Nov. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2009,01:09    Quote (Bueller_007 @ Jan. 12 2009,23:57) My latest reply, which is awaiting moderation and not likely to see the light of day. Quote So just so I can be clear on this point before I apologize (and I will actually do so immediately if this comment is approved): Clive Hayden, you are saying that half-joking threats of violence posted on the front page of *this* site are acceptable behaviour here, but half-joking insults tucked away in a comment thread of *another* website are not?

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2009,08:00    I get the feeling that Tribune7 may be "one of us".   :D[/quote] BA^77! FOREVER DUDE!!! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2009,14:54    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 12 2009,22:14) Quote (Bueller_007 @ Jan. 12 2009,20:53)     Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 12 2009,17:24) Bannination threat. Let's hope Clive livens things up a bit. 33 Clive Hayden 01/12/2009 5:54 pm YellowShark, And secondly, I noticed that you said the following on another website: “My reply (as TheYellowShark) to Dembski’s latest pile of tard is “awaiting moderation”.” Folks can see it here: (link) “Dembski’s latest pile of tard” you say? I expect an apology, not to me, but to Dr. Dembski, or you will be “banninated,” as ya’ll like to say :). And I don’t mind the bannination button for folks so blatantly disrespectful. And all the rest of you sock-puppets that expect privileges of commenting here with anonymity, all the while being vile on another thread, if your cover is blown and you don’t appropriately apologize, you’ll be gone too. So you’ll have to keep the bragging down and not blow your cover too soon if you want to comment here. I'll apologize for him. WAD: he meant "horseshit." Sorry about that. My reply.       Quote You have my word that--although I think it's a bit draconian to ban someone for what they say off-site--I  *shall* apologize to Dr. Dembski when an apology is forthcoming from "BaylorBear", who posted on this website an objectionable cartoon depicting a "humourous" threat to the safety of people who accept evolution. Incidentally, since there have been two topics on UD specifically directed as replies to my comments you would think I would be somewhat welcome here as I've at least given you something to talk about. 1. http://www.uncommondescent.com/biology....-really 2. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....entrism I shall address the remainder of your comment if I am not "banninated". What you really need to do is start dropping hints here that you're also posting as Kairosfocus, Batshit 77, angryoldfatman, Joe Gallien, etc. You'll have UD banninated clean empty in a week!   :D  :D  :D Nah, that braindead bunch isn't good at sorting fact from fiction from utter bullshit, what on earth would lead you to believe they would even recognize a hint, let alone be able to understand it? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2009,15:13    Barry A has had enough JackInHofe:   Quote JackInhofe is no longer with us. - From the very tasteless Is this Darwin's legacy thread. Jack's comment is nowhere to be seen - if it did appear did anyone catch it? -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2009,15:19    Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 20 2009,15:13) Barry A has had enough JackInHofe:     Quote JackInhofe is no longer with us. - From the very tasteless Is this Darwin's legacy thread. Jack's comment is nowhere to be seen - if it did appear did anyone catch it? Jack had the temerity to call out Andrew Sibley for being a racist bastard, and then accused Sibley of drinking from the sour Ben Stein kool-aid. I guess Andrew couldn't handle the truth and had to go whine to Barry. Pussy. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2009,15:58    I've been having fun for years posting as Kairosfocus.  I hope my cover doesn't get blown. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2009,18:12    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 20 2009,15:58) I've been having fun for years posting as Kairosfocus.  I hope my cover doesn't get blown. Dammit Ras!  You ARE gonna get caught!  That damn Barry A is one smart SOB, and he finally stopped Jack Inhofe. I got a couple more over there anyway. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,06:03    WAD enforces Pitch Black: 9 William Dembski 02/24/2009 5:23 pm To the moderators: Riddick needs to be removed. His ignorance of the difference between Reformed and Lutheran theology is bad enough (JWM is Lutheran). But his attack on Christianity is out of bounds with any standards of civility acceptable on this forum. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,12:40    Quote (J-Dog @ Feb. 20 2009,18:12) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 20 2009,15:58) I've been having fun for years posting as Kairosfocus.  I hope my cover doesn't get blown. Dammit Ras!  You ARE gonna get caught!  That damn Barry A is one smart SOB, and he finally stopped Jack Inhofe. I got a couple more over there anyway. only in public.  i bet he still likes a little Jack Inhofe in private.  Or possibly with his men's bible study group. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,13:09    Not all puppets at UD are sock puppets: 12 Clive Hayden 02/25/2009 1:58 pm Riddick is gone. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,13:23    Too bad he didn't read this first. http://www.getreligion.org/?p=8188 -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,13:29    In the vein of making something good even better, I'd suggest that while you are documenting the bans that you include the final comment that pushed the UD Moderation Circus over the edge for each such, if it is available. That way, people get to see just what was so horrid that the UDMC got past their innate squeamishness over "expelling" anyone who discusses "the controversy". -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,13:47    Riddick's first and only post at UD: 8 riddick 02/24/2009 1:46 pm Dembski: “JWM’s no-nonsense brand of apologetics, in which he was willing to put everything on the table for discussion and to consider all evidence pro and con on any topic,” Everything, it appears, except for his Reformed theology. “Christianity” is an “ism,” an ideology, one opposed to the revelation of God in Jesus Christ. Perhaps someday those who are critical of Darwinism will be as critical of their own cherished assumptions. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

AmandaHuginKiss Posts: 150 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,16:17    Do I get an "I am with the (Silent) Banned" t-shirt? I haven't checked back* but from last night (Aussie time) I had three message still on moderation and the last was pretty snarky. Paraphrasing, my messages was after StephenB had declared victory over the atheists Stephen, How can you declare victory when you have messages awaiting moderation. You point to a Divine set of moral laws but have failed to demonstrate that they exist in the real world. I have discussed how morals change across Christians today and have changed through time and all you have done is said that I am wrong without saying where i am wrong. * More for my own sanity. It is better to let the professionals to dip into the TARD.

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,16:27    Quote (AmandaHuginKiss @ Feb. 25 2009,17:17) Do I get an "I am with the (Silent) Banned" t-shirt? I haven't checked back* but from last night (Aussie time) I had three message still on moderation and the last was pretty snarky. Paraphrasing, my messages was after StephenB had declared victory over the atheists Stephen, How can you declare victory when you have messages awaiting moderation. You point to a Divine set of moral laws but have failed to demonstrate that they exist in the real world. I have discussed how morals change across Christians today and have changed through time and all you have done is said that I am wrong without saying where i am wrong. * More for my own sanity. It is better to let the professionals to dip into the TARD. True, amateurs may not know their TARD limits. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,16:30    Professional dippers? Huh. Wonder what kind of pay scale that profession professes to have. Or is it that people who do that too much wind up needing professional help of another kind?

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2009,16:39    Quote (khan @ Feb. 25 2009,16:27) Quote (AmandaHuginKiss @ Feb. 25 2009,17:17) Do I get an "I am with the (Silent) Banned" t-shirt? I haven't checked back* but from last night (Aussie time) I had three message still on moderation and the last was pretty snarky. Paraphrasing, my messages was after StephenB had declared victory over the atheists Stephen, How can you declare victory when you have messages awaiting moderation. You point to a Divine set of moral laws but have failed to demonstrate that they exist in the real world. I have discussed how morals change across Christians today and have changed through time and all you have done is said that I am wrong without saying where i am wrong. * More for my own sanity. It is better to let the professionals to dip into the TARD. True, amateurs may not know their TARD limits. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2009,22:44    UD claims a new, open moderation policy, tolerant of dissent of all kinds. I attempted to log on to congratulate them. UD refuses my attempts to log in - although clearly remembers me, because attempts to reestablish the account as Reciprocating Bill are met with a message that the user name and email address are already taken. Bob O'H has had the same experience. Cowards. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,08:49    Seeing the new dawn at UD (when the cloak fell from Dr Dr D to Barry, originally) and not wishing to be seen as a sock puppet, I tried requesting a replacement password on my existing but non-functional UD account (Alan Fox). No go. So I tried re-registering as Alan Fox II. I am up to Alan Fox IV. Their registration still seems mighty cranky, and still no go. Maybe Clive will take note and expedite my request.

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:05    I've now successfully created a new user there named Reciprocating_Bill.  I haven't yet attempted to post a comment. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:32    BarryA said:   Quote I’ll answer that. If PZ — or anyone else — came here and minded his manners, he would be more than welcome. I’m not holding my breath though, because PZ does not appear to be able to rise above adolescent name calling. Without claiming significance anything resembling PZ's, I do have a history of critical comments regarding UD, Barry Arrington in particular, Uncommonly Denyse, etc. Not to mention adolescent name calling. I've posted the following comment at UD, which is in moderation: "Congratulations on your new moderation policy. There can be a cooperative aspect to even competitive contests (e.g., boxing matches have ground rules that are cooperatively observed) and it will be interesting to observe whether that sort of cooperative/competitive exchange can be sustained at UD." I like to think that UD's new policy, in addition to reflecting new management, is also in response to the the ridiculative selection pressures we've exerted here. Let's watch. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:50    New Moderation Policy = Same as The Old Moderation Policy... :( They refuse to admit Jack Inhofe - even though he posted after the new policy was announced. Perhaps someone should write a book about UD - they could call it "Lies, and the Lying Liars That Tell Them." Yeah Barry - I'm talking to you. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:51    I've registered as "Paley's Digital Doubleheaded Platonic Dildo".  Barry and Clive have been double teaming whining to Gil Dodgen to let me through, but Gil is upset because I said something about chess queens in a previous email and Bill got involved because there someone used the word "gaylord" in a post and it tripped the spamfilter CSI-alarm and a predesigned Oracle performed a directed partitioned search on a predesigned segment of the universe probability string and proved, without any reasonable shred of doubt, addressed in 20.365-9 and following before during and completely thereafter, that Joshua did indeed fit the battle of Jericho.  it was an unsurprising result to those of us who you know have been around a bunch of the argument regarding design but it really blew the one guy who we think is a materialist right out of the seat.  he couldn't believe out and everyone got saved. i hope they allow Paley's Digital Doubleheaded Platonic Dildo but I have a feeling that Victorian Dad ain't going to dig it, mostly, man. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,08:20    My first post as Reciprocating_Bill at UD has gone through after a long wait in the moderation queue. My second comment appeared immediately. I therefore retract my "cowards" comment, above. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Richard Simons Posts: 425 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,11:18    I just registered and submitted this:   Quote First of all, I am delighted to see the change in moderation policy. Joseph     Quote That said to falsify ID in the domain of evolution all one has to do is demonstrate that the organism/ obeject/ event in question can be reduced to matter and energy. This is basically the reason why ID is not considered to be science. 'Falsifiable' means that there is a prediction or test that can be made and performed that could give two results. From one you would conclude that the theory has been disproven, from the other one would conclude that the theory has not so far been disproven. A large part of science is thinking up the exceptional cases and then actually putting your theory to the test, in effect trying to disprove your own theory. I am not aware of anyone connected with ID who has actually done this, or even proposed a realistic test that would differentiate between ID and the modern evolutionary theory.   Quote 4.5 billion years does not seem to be enough.   I have recently been making a scale drawing of a geological timeline for my students and one thing that comes out clearly is just how long 4.5 billion years is. To represent the last 5000 years of human history by a postage-stamp sized photo I would need a strip of paper over 10 miles long. How long would you consider long enough, and what is your reasoning (no phoney statistics, please)? I got the message that it is awaiting moderation. I followed that up with a second post: Quote Jerry Quote So when our anti ID friends come here, the onus is on them to present data that contradicts our position.   No. The onus is on you to clearly state what possible data would contradict your position, then to attempt to find it yourself. That is what scientists do. Note the word 'possible'. We'll see what happens. -------------- All sweeping statements are wrong.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,11:57    In our hallway at school, there was once (it had to be taken down for painting and has yet to be restored) an interesting graphical representation of the history of life on earth. At the far end, a paper was taped to the end wall representing the formation of the earth. Doc then counted out the floor tiles (12" x 12") and divided up the hallway. Each tile turned out to represent about 300 million years. Along one side of the hallway were markers representing the first evidence of bacteria, eukaryotes, multi-cellular eukaryotes, animals, mammals, etc etc. The appearance of modern humans about a thumbnail width from the edge of the last tile (worked out to be about 6' from the near end of the hall) really puts things in perspective. Standing at that line and gazing down the history of the earth like that pretty much elicits just whispered obscenities. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,12:02    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 15 2009,09:20) My first post as Reciprocating_Bill at UD has gone through after a long wait in the moderation queue. My second comment appeared immediately. I therefore retract my "cowards" comment, above. That's not how to do it. You're supposed to edit it out and not mention it again. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,12:03    Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 15 2009,12:57) In our hallway at school, there was once (it had to be taken down for painting and has yet to be restored) an interesting graphical representation of the history of life on earth. At the far end, a paper was taped to the end wall representing the formation of the earth. Doc then counted out the floor tiles (12" x 12") and divided up the hallway. Each tile turned out to represent about 300 million years. Along one side of the hallway were markers representing the first evidence of bacteria, eukaryotes, multi-cellular eukaryotes, animals, mammals, etc etc. The appearance of modern humans about a thumbnail width from the edge of the last tile (worked out to be about 6' from the near end of the hall) really puts things in perspective. Standing at that line and gazing down the history of the earth like that pretty much elicits just whispered obscenities. I always liked Gould's observation: “Consider the earth’s history as the old measure of the English yard, the distance from the king’s nose to the tip of his outstretched hand.  One stroke of a nail file on his middle finger erases human history.” Even Mark Twain likened the entire span human history to the skin of paint on the top of the knob at the summit of the Eiffel Tower (in his essay, Was the World Mad for Man?). -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,12:13    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 15 2009,08:20) My first post as Reciprocating_Bill at UD has gone through after a long wait in the moderation queue. My second comment appeared immediately. I therefore retract my "cowards" comment, above. It looks like I'm still too scary, though.  I've just put up a "testing" comment. Grrr.  Grrrr, grrrrr. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,12:30    Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 15 2009,13:13) Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 15 2009,08:20) My first post as Reciprocating_Bill at UD has gone through after a long wait in the moderation queue. My second comment appeared immediately. I therefore retract my "cowards" comment, above. It looks like I'm still too scary, though.  I've just put up a "testing" comment. Grrr.  Grrrr, grrrrr. That's because you, sir, are actually a scientist. I'm articulate hot air. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

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