Kristine
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Gaaa, StephenB: | Quote | —–ID skeptic writes, “I think many peoples problem with ID_implementation is that these things are not calculated mathematically very often and so become nebulous concepts.”
Let me offer two responses:
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[B] Paragraph [A} was not designed, while this one was. That is the concept. There is nothing nebulous about it all all. And, yes, the probability that [A] was a chance formulation and [B] was not can be measured. |
No kidding it can be measured. In fact, if [A] was completely random and [B] completely designed, their comparative information content can be measured.
And paragraph [B] will be shown to have more redundancy and less information than paragraph [A]!
StephenB, if Lou and I have reading/writing assignments, you should too!
| Quote | The creationist is confused by the information theory idea of information and complexity. That is somewhat confusing. Intuitively, we think of information in terms of semantics and communication. We think that information is related to semantic content. And our understanding of semantic content comes from language. So we expect things that are rich in information to be highly structured, like language.
But our initial intuition is wrong. wrong. As I explained when I was writing about information theory, a totally unstructured random string of bits has a lot more information than an equal-length string of english text. What we see as structure is really redundancy - multiple expressions of the same bits of information.
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You no get concept, you no get shimmies.
| Quote (khan @ Mar. 14 2009,18:14) | | Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 14 2009,19:12) | There has certainly been some classic TARD lately over there, which really sux because I'M TRYING TO WRITE TWO DAMNED PAPERS HERE AND YOU BASTARDS ARE DISTRACTING ME WITH THE TARD!!!!!
I am so addicted. |
Write your fucking papers. The tard will always be here. |
Lou - the secret is to work all this stuff into your paper. My prof is going to think I've lost my mind. 
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