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Roland Anderson Posts: 51 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,04:42    I couldn't let this pass from Clive: Quote Allen_MacNeill, “In brief, “fitness” is a measure of reproductive success.” Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? And secondly, Darwin must not have been very fit himself by that measure. So the only reason scientists propose theories is that the said theories make them look good - Darwin's theory makes Darwin himself look bad - ergo evolution is rubbish. Words fail. Actually, just FAIL. Erk! My first excursion into the TARD mines! What horrors await?

Roland Anderson Posts: 51 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,05:08    Ooops comment number above in link should be 307724. What happened to my edit button? It used to work. I mildly taunted FtK with it once. *sulk*

AmandaHuginKiss Posts: 150 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,05:16    Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 14 2009,19:52) Quote 101 Arthur Smith 03/13/2009 4:03 pm What sort of time machine were you thinking of, David? Please answer carefully. LOL I wonder if Clive of UD is aware he is just another player in the running joke that is UD. It took a good thirty seconds for to get it. Is there a sock puppet comment of the week?

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,05:22    Quote 52 Arthur Smith 03/14/2009 2:59 am Quote Arthur, calling Denyse names is abusive, insulting and obscene. Clive, I tried searching the site in question, but the facility offered appears unworkable. I scrolled back over as many comments as I could find, and I can’t find any insults to Denyse written by Bob. By coincidence I did see Amanda Gefter (writing in this week’s New Scientist) referring to Denyse thusly: Quote from the staid…-to the silly-”Yer granny was an ape!” (creationist blogger Denyse O’Leary) It seems Denyse is getting noticed! You wiill find Gefter's full text here. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,07:27    I have never posted at UD. I have never run a sock puppet account here, there or elsewhere. I am wondering if my rep as a big ol meanie would mean that I am pre-banninated at UD. I am tempted to discard my burdensome UD virginity and whore my intellectual parts over at that brothel of bewildered bumptiousness that is UD. However, I suspect the results would be predictable and so I shall resist temptation. Anyway, my status as possibly the only non-banninated AtBCer is valuable, and should not be abandoned on a whim. I shall maintain my UD virginity and defend my virtue from such wanton TARD and thus remain inviolate. Ah but I can gaze wistfully across the waters and wonder what bannination might feel like.... Louis -------------- Bye.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,07:28    Quote (AmandaHuginKiss @ Mar. 14 2009,13:16) Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 14 2009,19:52)   Quote 101 Arthur Smith 03/13/2009 4:03 pm What sort of time machine were you thinking of, David? Please answer carefully. LOL I wonder if Clive of UD is aware he is just another player in the running joke that is UD. It took a good thirty seconds for to get it. Is there a sock puppet comment of the week? You can be sure Master Clive esq. rev. ret. will never get it. He thinks he's the Tard Lord for the voice of unreason. Riding his green charger hunting down naughty people. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,07:45    anyone want to explain why that is funny?  what sort of time machine?  answer carefully? the very idea of Darwin=> De Soto or whatever is hilarious to me but i don't get the rest. and Loose stop playing like you haven't been posting as Borne for two or three years.  the sanctimony would give you away if we didn't already know about your 'common sense rules the world' stratagem.    as gay as you are, you can't resist Everyman.  or any man.  I offer Philip Skell as proof*. *muahahaha -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,07:51    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 14 2009,02:45) anyone want to explain why that is funny?  what sort of time machine?  answer carefully? the very idea of Darwin=> De Soto or whatever is hilarious to me but i don't get the rest. and Loose stop playing like you haven't been posting as Borne for two or three years.  the sanctimony would give you away if we didn't already know about your 'common sense rules the world' stratagem.    as gay as you are, you can't resist Everyman.  or any man.  I offer Philip Skell as proof*. *muahahaha ETA to remove stuff!

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,07:52    I've PMed 'ras so please don't spoil the fun -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,07:53    Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 14 2009,02:52) I've PMed 'ras so please don't spoil the fun Oh merde!

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,07:55    Oh well Clive can only hold on so long before the merde hits the fan. ETA removed stuff as well, fuck I hope they're not paranoid -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,08:01    pop culture references to 1980s, i do not haz them.  even after repeated discussion on here.   Clive you are a cunt. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,08:05    Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 14 2009,02:55) Oh well Clive can only hold on so long before the merde hits the fan. ETA removed stuff as well, fuck I hope they're not paranoid I wonder if anyone has passed Barry's invitation for PZ to join UD contributors on to Professor Myers.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,08:21    Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 14 2009,16:05) Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 14 2009,02:55) Oh well Clive can only hold on so long before the merde hits the fan. ETA removed stuff as well, fuck I hope they're not paranoid I wonder if anyone has passed Barry's invitation for PZ to join UD contributors on to Professor Myers. Oh YEAH HIGH FIVE!!!! ETA Can you imagine dt's blustering? <snicker> HOMO TENURED STAMP COLLECTOR!!! -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,08:38    Well, I thought I would send this: Quote Hi Professor Myers I don't know if you are aware of Uncommon Descent blog site, formally Bill Dembski's, now run by his minion, the lawyer Barry Arrington. Barry has extended you a public invitation to comment at UD. There are some of us who comment at Wesley Elsberry's "After the Bar Closes" that thought some trenchant comments from you on, "evo-devo" for example, would make a valuable contribution to the level of discourse there. Anyway, I just thought you should be aware of the offer. Best wishes Alan Fox

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,08:59    Quote (Alan Fox @ Mar. 14 2009,08:38) Well, I thought I would send this:   Quote Hi Professor Myers I don't know if you are aware of Uncommon Descent blog site, formally Bill Dembski's, now run by his minion, the lawyer Barry Arrington. Barry has extended you a public invitation to comment at UD. There are some of us who comment at Wesley Elsberry's "After the Bar Closes" that thought some trenchant comments from you on, "evo-devo" for example, would make a valuable contribution to the level of discourse there. Anyway, I just thought you should be aware of the offer. Best wishes Alan Fox I am quite sure that UD will give his comments respectful attention. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:03    Crikey carlsonjok ur catz sure haz a larj wardrobe he muz be a feline-aire -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:08    Quote George L Farquhar: I’ll address each of your points in turn, in light of your original stagement That's gonna take some time. Quote George L Farquhar: You are a fine one to talk. Your responsiveness to the truth is ZERO. Your ability to correct when found to be in error is ZERO. Irony, thy name is Kariosfocus. George L Farquhar is doing a great job. He's like a Pit Bull with a bone. The Argument Regarding Design is always based on one fallacy or another. It's just a matter of pointing out the fallacy or misrepresentation, then not letting go until it's been corrected or retracted. This example is instructive. No matter how obvious and trivial the error, kairosfocus is incapable of admitting to it, even after many thousands of words. There is never any possibility of any real discussion of the issues because you can never establish a solid foundation on which to build such a discussion. So it goes. Quote George L Farquhar: If you can admit you are in error then perhaps such a discussion can take place. Until you do so, it cannot. Onlookers take note! If a civilian stumbles in unawares, they may find themselves sinking in quagmire, because words in ID are slippery and facts are optional. This includes scientists who are not properly trained and equipped for the The Argument Regarding Design™. Even the most highly educated and intelligent people often assume others have a genuine desire to communicate and to learn—a very dangerous assumption when entering the Mines. -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:29    Quote (steve_h @ Mar. 13 2009,22:25) Quote (ck1 @ Mar. 14 2009,03:51) About 4.5 hours ago I posted this on Barry's new moderation policy thread (it has not appeared):           Quote I'm a biologist (32 years since PhD) working in genetics, virology and evolution.  I am delighted to hear of this new moderation policy and I look forward to being able to post here now. I will simply note for now that often scientific findings are counterintuitive.  It is the data that matters, not suppositions based on common sense. Too confrontational? I think the word you are looking for is "Vicious". It's a vicious personal attack and therefore unsuitable for inclusion at a refined scientifical forum such as UD. Drop the insults, the foul language, the pathetic mindless mischaracterizations, hate speech, puppy butchering and fascism and try again, somewhere else, in a year or so you racist chance worshipping bastard holocaust causer. HTH. ---- This comment was automatically screened for naughty words during transmission; It contain nothing that an IDC supporter would consider objectionable. Nailed It! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:30    Quote Barry Arrington: UD’s moderation policy is fairly simple: As a general rule, so long as your comment is not defamatory profane, or a vicious personal attack, you can say pretty much what you want. That is simply a lie, a mistruth, a blatant misrepresentation, self-delusion, willful prevarication, a perversion of the truth, not an accurate statement. (Sorry. We're having troubles with the D-Snark™ de-snarkification field. We hope to have it fixed after the next terrestrial occultation.) -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:43    Quote (Louis @ Mar. 14 2009,07:27) I have never posted at UD. I have never run a sock puppet account here, there or elsewhere. I am wondering if my rep as a big ol meanie would mean that I am pre-banninated at UD. I am tempted to discard my burdensome UD virginity and whore my intellectual parts over at that brothel of bewildered bumptiousness that is UD. However, I suspect the results would be predictable and so I shall resist temptation. Anyway, my status as possibly the only non-banninated AtBCer is valuable, and should not be abandoned on a whim. I shall maintain my UD virginity and defend my virtue from such wanton TARD and thus remain inviolate. Ah but I can gaze wistfully across the waters and wonder what bannination might feel like.... Louis Louis - You might last 1 post at UD as your normal, caring, selfless, kind and understanding internet persona - but personally I think you are on their pre-banned list. Give it a try!  I am sure they are looking forward to building a long-term realtionship with a real working scientist that can not abide stupidity and tard in any form, and that can deliver them the smack-down that they know God wants them to receive and that they deserve for their sins -  in Latin, French and good crisp Anglo Saxon verbiage. We are looking forward to the ensuing carnage many fruitful posts. ps:  Please save your posts - or you will vanish into Bannination Land. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:54    Quote (Louis @ Mar. 14 2009,07:27) I have never posted at UD. I have never run a sock puppet account here, there or elsewhere. I am wondering if my rep as a big ol meanie would mean that I am pre-banninated at UD. I am tempted to discard my burdensome UD virginity and whore my intellectual parts over at that brothel of bewildered bumptiousness that is UD. However, I suspect the results would be predictable and so I shall resist temptation. Anyway, my status as possibly the only non-banninated AtBCer is valuable, and should not be abandoned on a whim. I shall maintain my UD virginity and defend my virtue from such wanton TARD and thus remain inviolate. Ah but I can gaze wistfully across the waters and wonder what bannination might feel like.... Louis I have a confession to make. It is a dark secret I have been hiding forever, but Louis has set an example and I have to confess. I have never been banned from UD. I have never had an account there. I am very ashamed and will hold my manhood cheap whilst those who were banned on St. Crispin's day speak of their legendary bannations... -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,09:59    ncht ......you big girls blouse. They won't even let me register. If Jack Inholf is allowed over there why not I A Tinny? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,10:20    Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 14 2009,15:54) Quote (Louis @ Mar. 14 2009,07:27) I have never posted at UD. I have never run a sock puppet account here, there or elsewhere. I am wondering if my rep as a big ol meanie would mean that I am pre-banninated at UD. I am tempted to discard my burdensome UD virginity and whore my intellectual parts over at that brothel of bewildered bumptiousness that is UD. However, I suspect the results would be predictable and so I shall resist temptation. Anyway, my status as possibly the only non-banninated AtBCer is valuable, and should not be abandoned on a whim. I shall maintain my UD virginity and defend my virtue from such wanton TARD and thus remain inviolate. Ah but I can gaze wistfully across the waters and wonder what bannination might feel like.... Louis I have a confession to make. It is a dark secret I have been hiding forever, but Louis has set an example and I have to confess. I have never been banned from UD. I have never had an account there. I am very ashamed and will hold my manhood cheap whilst those who were banned on St. Crispin's day speak of their legendary bannations... We stand together my australopithecene cousin! Resist the lure of the hard TARD. Anthropoids of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your enlarged brains and bipedalism. Louis -------------- Bye.

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,10:21    Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 14 2009,15:43) Quote (Louis @ Mar. 14 2009,07:27) I have never posted at UD. I have never run a sock puppet account here, there or elsewhere. I am wondering if my rep as a big ol meanie would mean that I am pre-banninated at UD. I am tempted to discard my burdensome UD virginity and whore my intellectual parts over at that brothel of bewildered bumptiousness that is UD. However, I suspect the results would be predictable and so I shall resist temptation. Anyway, my status as possibly the only non-banninated AtBCer is valuable, and should not be abandoned on a whim. I shall maintain my UD virginity and defend my virtue from such wanton TARD and thus remain inviolate. Ah but I can gaze wistfully across the waters and wonder what bannination might feel like.... Louis Louis - You might last 1 post at UD as your normal, caring, selfless, kind and understanding internet persona - but personally I think you are on their pre-banned list. Give it a try!  I am sure they are looking forward to building a long-term realtionship with a real working scientist that can not abide stupidity and tard in any form, and that can deliver them the smack-down that they know God wants them to receive and that they deserve for their sins -  in Latin, French and good crisp Anglo Saxon verbiage. We are looking forward to the ensuing carnage many fruitful posts. ps:  Please save your posts - or you will vanish into Bannination Land. Caring? Selfless? Understanding? KIND???? Fuck off! Louis P.S. ;-) -------------- Bye.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,10:24    Quote I have a confession to make. It is a dark secret I have been hiding forever, but Louis has set an example and I have to confess. I have never been banned from UD. I have never had an account there. I am very ashamed and will hold my manhood cheap whilst those who were banned on St. Crispin's day speak of their legendary bannations... Huh?  So you're not PaV, then? -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Maya Posts: 702 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,10:39    Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 14 2009,10:24) Quote I have a confession to make. It is a dark secret I have been hiding forever, but Louis has set an example and I have to confess. I have never been banned from UD. I have never had an account there. I am very ashamed and will hold my manhood cheap whilst those who were banned on St. Crispin's day speak of their legendary bannations... Huh?  So you're not PaV, then? I honestly thought he was jerry.  No one could be as profoundly ignorant, pompous, and dishonest as jerry is for real.  Right?  Right?  Please don't feed my mid-semester cynicism and bitterness to all mankind....

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,10:44    Nah.  John A. Davison is Jerry. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Maya Posts: 702 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,10:54    Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 14 2009,09:08) If a civilian stumbles in unawares, they may find themselves sinking in quagmire, because words in ID are slippery and facts are optional. This includes scientists who are not properly trained and equipped for the The Argument Regarding Design™. Even the most highly educated and intelligent people often assume others have a genuine desire to communicate and to learn—a very dangerous assumption when entering the Mines. When I grow up I want to write like Zachriel.  His prose perfectly combines expressiveness and economy, every word pulling its own weight. It's very clear that the censors at UD are never going to allow open discussion.  The appropriate response is for those who value intellectual honesty and integrity to refuse to participate there, but the siren lure of On-line Statements Requiring Correction is too great for most mere mortals. I've been thinking of periodically posting the most egregious examples of UDiocy to talk.origins.  The regulars there have way too much time on their hands and well-honed weapons for eviscerating ridiculous claims.  At the very least that would ensure that a Google search for UD topics would cough up some rational responses.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2009,11:13    Quote ..siren lure of On-line Statements Requiring Correction.. Careful, Louis is still up.     Quote (Zac's) prose perfectly combines expressiveness and economy, every word pulling its own weight. I've alway thought that of Evelyn Waugh perhaps the finest proponent of the English language in prose. Who incidently is Dawkins favorite author, even though Waugh was a Catholic apologist, plenty of woo and rustling behind the curtains. Waugh hated James Joyce of course probably because Waugh couldn't hold his drink as well as Joyce...oh and Joyce was putative athiest who spent his whole life rewriting a bible of sorts that is to say a book of nonlinear sleepy pyschotropic fables...Finnegans Wake. So I guess you could say that I'm saying is Zac is a homo Catholic apologist who can't hold his drink.....oh wait this isn't UD. Sorry Zac. ETA clarity -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

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