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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2014,12:01   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 02 2014,13:22)
A piece of News that is quintessentially Dense. O'Leary par excellence:

 
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A reader kindly writes to say that his high school guitar teacher told him that one can find the golden ratio in guitar solos that sneak into songs


Granted, this could be interesting. Or it could turn out to be trivial. In any case, it is the conclusion that showcases a special talent:

 
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Design? Chance? Chance only if there are a zillion universes that don’t have anything like this. So the evidence for their existence is… ? Uh, right.
Chances are, today’s art establishment won’t take the golden ratio seriously unless it helps chimps fling poop at each other. That’s art too, didn’t you know? Well, it will be if some project gets funded.

See also: The multiverse: Where everything turns out to be true, except philosophy and religion
and
Human origins: The war of trivial explanations


If that isn't great journalism then Denyse O'Leary has never written a decent article in her life.

ETA: link

As a guitarist I can tell you that none of my solos have ever been accused of "sneaking" into a song.

'SCUSE ME! GUITAR SOLO, COMIN' THROUGH!!!!

Plus a friend of a friend who saw a ticket to a Pink Floyd show once says all Gilmour's solos are a nautilus spiral if you transcribe them and wrap them around a Scotch tape holder.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2014,12:04   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Dec. 03 2014,12:11)
Sorry to hear about your experience--sounds awful.

meh. things happen. it was terrible at the time, but other people have it worse. i (narrowly) avoided homelessness.

   
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2014,13:38   

Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 03 2014,17:01)
Quote (Driver @ Dec. 02 2014,13:22)
A piece of News that is quintessentially Dense. O'Leary par excellence:

 
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A reader kindly writes to say that his high school guitar teacher told him that one can find the golden ratio in guitar solos that sneak into songs


Granted, this could be interesting. Or it could turn out to be trivial. In any case, it is the conclusion that showcases a special talent:

 
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Design? Chance? Chance only if there are a zillion universes that don’t have anything like this. So the evidence for their existence is… ? Uh, right.
Chances are, today’s art establishment won’t take the golden ratio seriously unless it helps chimps fling poop at each other. That’s art too, didn’t you know? Well, it will be if some project gets funded.

See also: The multiverse: Where everything turns out to be true, except philosophy and religion
and
Human origins: The war of trivial explanations


If that isn't great journalism then Denyse O'Leary has never written a decent article in her life.

ETA: link

As a guitarist I can tell you that none of my solos have ever been accused of "sneaking" into a song.

'SCUSE ME! GUITAR SOLO, COMIN' THROUGH!!!!

Plus a friend of a friend who saw a ticket to a Pink Floyd show once says all Gilmour's solos are a nautilus spiral if you transcribe them and wrap them around a Scotch tape holder.

It would make slightly more sense that the golden spiral sneaks into songs. Probably just appalling sentence construction from Dense.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2014,22:11   

Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 03 2014,20:01)
Quote (Driver @ Dec. 02 2014,13:22)
A piece of News that is quintessentially Dense. O'Leary par excellence:

 
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A reader kindly writes to say that his high school guitar teacher told him that one can find the golden ratio in guitar solos that sneak into songs


Granted, this could be interesting. Or it could turn out to be trivial. In any case, it is the conclusion that showcases a special talent:

 
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Design? Chance? Chance only if there are a zillion universes that don’t have anything like this. So the evidence for their existence is… ? Uh, right.
Chances are, today’s art establishment won’t take the golden ratio seriously unless it helps chimps fling poop at each other. That’s art too, didn’t you know? Well, it will be if some project gets funded.

See also: The multiverse: Where everything turns out to be true, except philosophy and religion
and
Human origins: The war of trivial explanations


If that isn't great journalism then Denyse O'Leary has never written a decent article in her life.

ETA: link

As a guitarist I can tell you that none of my solos have ever been accused of "sneaking" into a song.

'SCUSE ME! GUITAR SOLO, COMIN' THROUGH!!!!

Plus a friend of a friend who saw a ticket to a Pink Floyd show once says all Gilmour's solos are a nautilus spiral if you transcribe them and wrap them around a Scotch tape holder.

A 'friend' eh? So I'm guessing teh late '60s and you...erm sorry your 'friend' his name wasn't Timothy Leary by any chance? And could the band have been the Moody Blues? Were you actually THERE? .....Sorry your alleged friend.

I'll bet Dense has never really looked at her hand what a TARD.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 03 2014,23:36   

Remember Inference - International review of scince?
They are currently hiring:
 
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JOB -

Inference: International Review of Science – Publishing –
Is looking for a full-time Mid-Senior level Editor (Writing/Editing)

1. Work Environment

Company
Inference: International Review of Science

Company Description
Inference: International Review of Science is a new quarterly online review dedicated to providing a critical appraisal of the sciences—from anthropology to zoology—in the form of critical reviews and essays. We are committed to the highest standards of criticism. While we are pleased when we can attract the general reader, nothing that we publish is written with the general reader in mind. When evaluating submissions for publication, space is not a consideration.
The debut issue of Inference was published on October 15, 2014.
http://inference-review.com/....iew....iew.com

2. Position

Job Description
I. Summary
We are seeking an editor to join the Inference editorial team in Paris.
Working alongside a close-knit team of friendly, dedicated and hard-working editors, the successful applicant will be editing challenging and compelling manuscripts across a range of scientific topics. This is a demanding, but rewarding role, for which a highly skilled editor will be suitably remunerated.
This position is now open with the possibility to begin work immediately.

II. Background
Applicants must have a background in the hard sciences: Mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, statistics, or computer science. Applicants need not have a graduate degree, or even an undergraduate degree; but must nonetheless possess the requisite background, no matter how acquired.
Native, or near native, level fluency in verbal and written English is absolutely essential. Fluency in additional languages, French in particular, is desirable, but not a pre-requisite.
Prior editorial experience, whether for a scientific journal, or in the publishing industry at large, working directly with authors, is highly advantageous.
Applicants with an unorthodox background, but possessing the requisite scientific knowledge and language skills, will be considered for this position.

III. Role
Editors at Inference are assigned a manuscript upon its acceptance for publication and are responsible for the manuscript until it is ready to be passed into the hands of the journal’s copy-editor. An editor must be able to grasp the overall point of an essay, recognize its weaknesses in both argument and rhetoric, and then work with the author throughout the editing process. Revisions may be incremental, or fundamental. Editorial work is both self-effacing and self-promoting. A good editor must allow himself to be a writer's second self without quite allowing himself to be a writer's second voice. Inference has no ideological, political, or religions agendas whatsoever. Editors must be able to approach manuscripts free of preconceptions.

3. Location
Applicants must be based in Paris, or its environs.

To apply.
Please send your resume + a cover letter at the following email address:
managing.editor@inference-review.com
Inference: International Review of Science, Volume 1 Issue 1
The debut issue of Inference: International Review of Science.
inference-review.com


You may be surprised that peer review is not mentioned but Inference is quite open about this fact:  
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Although the editors appeal to experts for advice, Inference is not peer-reviewed. Writers must please the editors. They need please no one else.


I just wonder if articles written only for arrogant editors who don't care about their readers will help the journal to survive its first issue. OTOH, the emperor's new clothes worked for some time, though.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,01:03   

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While we are pleased when we can attract the general reader, nothing that we publish is written with the general reader in mind.


What  "inspiring" debut volume. Who's funding the thing?

Doesn't look attractive to me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,02:14   

It does kinda sound like Berlinski, though.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,02:14   

I hope GaGa and Batshit77 apply Joe could lick teh stamps...

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,02:16   

Hehe there is an opportunity here....

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,04:46   

Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 03 2014,18:01)
Plus a friend of a friend who saw a ticket to a Pink Floyd show once says all Gilmour's solos are a nautilus spiral if you transcribe them and wrap them around a Scotch tape holder.

Is this not what they call 'noodling'?


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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,09:01   

Quote (Amadan @ Dec. 04 2014,04:46)
Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 03 2014,18:01)
Plus a friend of a friend who saw a ticket to a Pink Floyd show once says all Gilmour's solos are a nautilus spiral if you transcribe them and wrap them around a Scotch tape holder.

Is this not what they call 'noodling'?

Looks like fusili to me. I think I'd make a design inference.

Anyone for asking UD to compute the CSI of a bowl of alphabet soup?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,12:34   

Pasta la vista!

  
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,16:36   

I have resisted so many brilliant creationist arguments, But Gordon's argument from fishing rods has convinced me. YHWH did it. Fishing rods are just too complex.  There must be a God. Thank you uncommondescent.com

They said you were a bunch of laughable crackpots who couldn't argue their way into receiving Nigerian business opportunities. Oh they SAID that. How wrong they were. How wrong they were.

Thank you Heks, Box, Mung et al for your fine refutations of KeithS's character. This onlooker thanks you from the bottom. Thank you, Barry, gpuccio and Vincent.  Thank you most of all, KairosFocus.

The fishing rod.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,16:40   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 04 2014,16:36)
I have resisted so many brilliant creationist arguments, But Gordon's argument from fishing rods has convinced me. YHWH did it. Fishing rods are just too complex.  There must be a God. Thank you uncommondescent.com

They said you were a bunch of laughable crackpots who couldn't argue their way into receiving Nigerian business opportunities. Oh they SAID that. How wrong they were. How wrong they were.

Thank you Heks, Box, Mung et al for your fine refutations of KeithS's character. This onlooker thanks you from the bottom. Thank you, Barry, gpuccio and Vincent.  Thank you most of all, KairosFocus.

The fishing rod.

History (I hesitate to use the word "evolution") of the fishing rod.
Fishing Museum

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,16:57   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 04 2014,14:36)
I have resisted so many brilliant creationist arguments, But Gordon's argument from fishing rods has convinced me. YHWH did it. Fishing rods are just too complex.  There must be a God. Thank you uncommondescent.com

They said you were a bunch of laughable crackpots who couldn't argue their way into receiving Nigerian business opportunities. Oh they SAID that. How wrong they were. How wrong they were.

Thank you Heks, Box, Mung et al for your fine refutations of KeithS's character. This onlooker thanks you from the bottom. Thank you, Barry, gpuccio and Vincent.  Thank you most of all, KairosFocus.

The fishing rod.

So God created life to give himself something to do while drinking beer at the weekend?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,17:22   

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So God created life to give himself something to do while drinking beer at the weekend?

And he created Gordon Kairosfocus Mullings after drinking too much beer on the weekend.

  
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,17:33   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 04 2014,21:40)
Quote (Driver @ Dec. 04 2014,16:36)
I have resisted so many brilliant creationist arguments, But Gordon's argument from fishing rods has convinced me. YHWH did it. Fishing rods are just too complex.  There must be a God. Thank you uncommondescent.com

They said you were a bunch of laughable crackpots who couldn't argue their way into receiving Nigerian business opportunities. Oh they SAID that. How wrong they were. How wrong they were.

Thank you Heks, Box, Mung et al for your fine refutations of KeithS's character. This onlooker thanks you from the bottom. Thank you, Barry, gpuccio and Vincent.  Thank you most of all, KairosFocus.

The fishing rod.

History (I hesitate to use the word "evolution") of the fishing rod.
Fishing Museum

But you can't explain the reel. Putting the  parts in a shoebox and shaking it up won't assemble the reel. That is an almost verbatim quote. No need to link as he brings it up every OP and every second comment atm. Also, laziness.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,19:53   

Quote (Driver @ Dec. 04 2014,16:36)
... The fishing rod.

“In our family, there was no clear line between religion and fly fishing." — Norman Maclean

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,21:13   

Inappropriate comments for me but not for thee.

Someone should mention this to Kairofocus the next time he has the vapors over someone on an evolution blog saying bad things about UD denizens...

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2014,23:52   

Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 03 2014,20:11)
Were you actually THERE?

I can't remember.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2014,02:34   

Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 05 2014,07:52)
Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 03 2014,20:11)
Were you actually THERE?

I can't remember.

This is pretty easy to remember.Osibisa - Whos Got The Paper

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2014,22:22   

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Were you actually THERE? .....Sorry your alleged friend.

There there.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2014,22:44   

Steve at UD:  
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I see Ann [Gauger] seems to have responded to Larry [Moran]. I guess she is not all that worried about amorous viral cyber-infections.

Keiths in next comment:  
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Link, please. (What is it about IDers and links??)

To IDers, all links are missing links.

bracketted mine.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2014,07:27   

Quote (paragwinn @ Dec. 06 2014,06:44)
Steve at UD:  
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I see Ann [Gauger] seems to have responded to Larry [Moran]. I guess she is not all that worried about amorous viral cyber-infections.

Keiths in next comment:  
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Link, please. (What is it about IDers and links??)

To IDers, all links are missing links.

bracketted mine.

I suggest the next missing link that's found be called Dues Ex 404

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2014,11:57   

In case of missing links, call Jimmy Dean.

(No, not the singer.)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2014,12:08   

At UD, William J Murray says this:
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ID makes no supernatural claims. ID only proposes that artifice, or intelligent design, is a scientifically necessary causal agency in the explanation of some artifacts.

William Dembski says this:
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Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory.

Any further clarification required?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2014,12:39   

Quote (paragwinn @ Dec. 05 2014,20:44)
Steve at UD:    
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I see Ann [Gauger] seems to have responded to Larry [Moran]. I guess she is not all that worried about amorous viral cyber-infections.

Keiths in next comment:    
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Link, please. (What is it about IDers and links??)

To IDers, all links are missing links.

bracketted mine.

I just looked at Sandwalk. There's a post/thread about Gauger but I didn't see any response from her.

ETA: Steve at UD is probably referring to one or both of these:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014....01.html

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014....31.html

Edited by The whole truth on Dec. 06 2014,10:48

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2014,12:45   

Zachriel, why don't you explain to Box, WJM, et al what the statistical nature of 2LOT really means? I can see a lot of fun coming from this.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2014,13:37   

Quote (timothya @ Dec. 06 2014,12:08)
At UD, William J Murray says this:
 
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ID makes no supernatural claims. ID only proposes that artifice, or intelligent design, is a scientifically necessary causal agency in the explanation of some artifacts.

William Dembski says this:
 
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Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory.

Any further clarification required?

I always find this funny.

So a non-deity was capable of designing the entire universe, knowing the complete ramifications of every possible setting for every known (and unknown) physical constant and how every single one of those can be combined to create humans.

Further, it designed the initial organism on the planet, with every possible combination of genetics to result in the complete diversity of life on this planet
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It personally designed every organism on the planet, knowing what the actual outcome of the the hundreds of factors that affect each organisms genome plus how every organism interacts with every other organism and every possible molecule of non-living material.

And it's not a deity??!?!?!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2014,15:51   

Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 06 2014,11:57)
In case of missing links, call Jimmy Dean.

(No, not the singer.)

They're the same person.  Besides starting the sausage factory, Jimmy Dean sang "Big Bad John", gave Jim Henson and his Muppets their first big shot at success AND he was in the James Bond movie, "Diamonds Are Forever".

Wikipedia entry for James Ray Dean

  
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