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Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,21:14    Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 16 2009,19:28) That's in Chapter 1, just after a whole section on the Pimples of Science that talked a bit about McLean v. Arkansas and Kitzmiller v. Dover. Fixed that for you. -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

Marion Delgado Posts: 89 Joined: Nov. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 17 2009,09:59    Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 16 2009,20:33) No need to hunt for snarks after you find this place. No one say anything boojuny, or he'll know!

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 17 2009,10:01    Quote (midwifetoad @ Aug. 16 2009,20:33) No need to hunt for snarks after you find this place. k.e. is really a boojum, BTW. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2009,13:50    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 15 2009,14:11) w00t! Just got a call from the English department. 8 Seconds has been chosen for the New River Anthology, to be published in August. Also, they want me to read it at a fall reading. Got my copy this morning. I'm pretty tickled, even though it's just a little community college publication. My new English instructor is in charge of it, and recognized my name from her roll so she brought my copy to me in class this morning. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2009,17:24    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Aug. 16 2009,20:14) Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 16 2009,19:28) That's in Chapter 1, just after a whole section on the Pimples of Science that talked a bit about McLean v. Arkansas and Kitzmiller v. Dover. Fixed that for you. No, no, it's not "pimples", it's "pirahna" (sic).

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2009,15:14    Coastal transfer students out-perform 4-year UNC students - mostly because we rock. Also, we're better looking. /yetanotherbragaboutmyschool -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,04:35    Guess what we were discussing in Zo lab yesterday: Edited by Lou FCD on Sep. 16 2009,05:38 -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 16 2009,04:46    Quote (Lou FCD @ Sep. 16 2009,04:35) Guess what we were discussing in Zo lab yesterday Yer intestinal tract OR tapeworms named "louis." -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 14 2009,20:34    Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 22 2009,16:14) Coastal transfer students out-perform 4-year UNC students - mostly because we rock. Also, we're better looking. /yetanotherbragaboutmyschool To wit: I've posted my creative project for my World Lit class, a photographic representation of the poem by Bunina. (Nudes, so no prudes) From the Seashore by Anna Petrovna Bunina (1806) I'm very proud of it, so I'm trolling for compliments. :) (OK, if you *must* criticize, be gentle.) -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,14:29    I just got my acceptance letter to UNCW. I'm kind of tearing up. It's dumb I guess, but there you go. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,14:37    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 20 2010,15:29) I just got my acceptance letter to UNCW. I'm kind of tearing up. It's dumb I guess, but there you go. We'll never hear the end of this. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,19:18    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 20 2010,14:29) I just got my acceptance letter to UNCW.   I'm kind of tearing up.** It's dumb I guess, but there you go. Dude way to go!  Unlike all* the other posters here, I of course knew you could do it.   * Well the UD read-bys anyway... ** I am sure BA77 and/or jerry would be happy to supply a shoulder to cry on... -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Thought Provoker Posts: 530 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,20:07    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 20 2010,14:29) I just got my acceptance letter to UNCW. I'm kind of tearing up. It's dumb I guess, but there you go. Congratulations

Acipenser Posts: 35 Joined: Jan. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,20:37    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 20 2010,14:29) I just got my acceptance letter to UNCW. I'm kind of tearing up. It's dumb I guess, but there you go. Congratulations! I don't know if you will find this encouraging or not (hope so) but you'll be younger than I when you finish your degree objectives.  I'm finishing up the last chapter of my thesis this week and I turn 55 on monday....yikes! :O

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,21:09    Thanks ev'r'body. Quote (Acipenser @ Feb. 20 2010,21:37) I don't know if you will find this encouraging or not (hope so) but you'll be younger than I when you finish your degree objectives.  I'm finishing up the last chapter of my thesis this week and I turn 55 on monday....yikes! :O Actually I do. I keep chuckling to myself that I ought to be finishing up my PhD just in time to retire (assuming I live that long...) and it's good to hear that I'm not paddling this boat alone. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

qetzal Posts: 311 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,21:32    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 20 2010,14:29) I just got my acceptance letter to UNCW. I'm kind of tearing up. It's dumb I guess, but there you go. Very, very hearty congrats, Lou!

Acipenser Posts: 35 Joined: Jan. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 20 2010,21:39    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 20 2010,21:09) Thanks ev'r'body. Actually I do. I keep chuckling to myself that I ought to be finishing up my PhD just in time to retire (assuming I live that long...) and it's good to hear that I'm not paddling this boat alone. No, you're not alone on this journey and I've had a few chuckles over the crappy pension plan provided by Graduate Studies. In any case, all I can offer as advice is apply for everything and hope for anything in the quest for any $$$ that is passibly within your reach.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2010,18:48    Just a superficial update for now. I've sort of let this thread wither on the vine, between school and some personal issues I was dealing with (a parting of ways with my wife Jane least among them). I've been sticking to relatively stress-free Twitter and Facebook stuff, not even blogging much of anything. I've been taking a lot of pictures. (See my sig for some of my better portrait stuff - NSFW, including a few of my naked ass - you've been warned.) I am now a graduate of Coastal Carolina Community College, with an A.S. in Biology/Biology Ed, and I start my Junior year at UNCW on Wednesday in the Biology program. My course schedule for this fall is all Biology: Genetics Plant Physiology Environmental Science I'm sort of happy, but also kind of nervous. Back at Coastal, I was sort of a big fish in a little pond. I may need to get used to being just another fish in the ocean. But also, a lot of me just feels ambivalence. That might just be leftover exhaustion, maybe some burnout, lingering heartache over the personal issues, I don't really know. I'm really disappointed that I'm not ecstatic about that schedule, about my graduation, about my accomplishment, about my new school, about my new apartment, about being single. I should be thrilled. I've dreamed about an all-advanced-biology schedule for years now. I have it. Why aren't I jumping up and down? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2010,19:32    Shit hun. I went from being a big frog in a little pond to being a nothing much in a a large pond. You'll do fine. Shit happens. Work hard and apply yourself. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Acipenser Posts: 35 Joined: Jan. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2010,21:11    Sorry to hear about the issues you've been dealing with but life does throw you all sorts of curve balls.  Believe me I know how easy it is to lose perspective, enthusiasm, and focus on your academic goals. To finally finish my Ph.D took 15 years.  I had one three week experiment remaining to complete my first Ph.D. research (not multiple Ph.Ds just the research needed to write a thesis) when I was diagnosed with a potentially nasty liver disease.  It required two years of chemo to treat and it kicked my ass.  I was ill enough from the chemo that I had to PELP (planned educational leave program) for nearly the entire treatment.  At the completion of the treatment I was supposed to be allowed back into the lab to finish the research.  That did not happen but the department stood by my position and offered me the option of taking a masters and walking away or starting over with the research segment of the degree requirements. I needed to get the PH.D. to fit in the plans of my business partner and I who were going to buy his brother out of the business.  I restarted in a different lab and after I finished the data collection and writing my first chapter my business partner (and best friend for 35 yrs) was diagnosed with one of the nastiest cancers around.  I had to tell him he had maybe a year to live (he lived one year and 5 days after that conversation).  Along with that my sister in law was battling metastatic breast cancer and losing.  My wife and I were close to our friend and SIL and spent nearly an entire year providing care to both of them.  I flew to MD Anderson every two weeks with my buddy until he just couldn't do it no more.  Myself and wife flew to Washington to help take care of her sister in the final weeks of her life.  They died within 3 weeks of each other. Now while all this was going on my time exptensions were running out and I knew it.  I tried several times to sit down and write but just couldn't get the job done.  My graduate group again stood behind me knowing what I had been facing and gave me the time to finally finish the thesis.  I did not get my enthusiasm back for the lab and writing for about a year after their deaths.  Not only was my friend (and SIL) gone but our long-term business plans (the entire purpose of staying in school and for that matter pursuing a Ph.D. in the first place) were shot to hell.  For so much of that time I felt like I wanted to retreat back to our home in the mountains and chuck it all. I am glad that I didn't stop and did finally finish the degree.  It has opened up new opportunities and I am currently working on a couple of great and very challenging projects.  And I get to work with fish everyday....it just doesn't get any better than that! Take a deep breath and revaluate your goals and if a degree is in the future get reinvolved with somebody doing some research.  Our lab always has a slew of undergrads who work with us and might it be possible you could find a workstudy program that will generate some $$ for you.  Moving up to a larger University will make it easier for you to find someone who has some cash and wants you to work for them. sorry about going all KF on ya but wanted to let you know that as an older student you have a bit more of life's potholes to deal with than the typical undergrad.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2010,22:14    I think several of us are in or have been in the "students over the traditional age" club. I'm sorry to hear that things haven't been going well lately. But I hope that you are able to get past that to take full advantage of the opportunities that may be available at your new school. When I think back to my undergrad days, I can recall that there were many chances I could have had to get involved that I passed by. Join or start a study group: a bit of structure in your life may be helpful to get you going. If there is a seminar series put on by your department, make an effort to go to it. Find out who's doing the research that most interests you and find out if they could use a volunteer. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2010,03:58    Hi Lou, Sorry to hear about the crappier elements of your personal life, but that said, I am even sorrier to have visited your website and seen photos of your arse. ;-) All I can say about the degree stuff is that you are an inspiration. Well done you. It takes a lot of courage to do what you've done (and no small amount of ability) so whatever headgear I am wearing has been very thoroughly taken off in your direction! When I say you are an inspiration by the way, I mean it literally. For my job I have to know/learn a lot of biology/biochem, I saw what you were doing and thought to myself "why the hell am I slogging through all this stuff to have no shiny object at the end of it? That Lou bloke is doing it, so can I!" So either October this year or January 2011 I am starting an Open University degree in Life Sciences whilst still working. So slightly different from you (this will take me about 6 years, and is done remotely for the most part). I'm doing this for a combination of personal edification, love of things biological, time saving (it saves me the effort of researching things to learn about, weird I know) and you never know, it might help my career (it might not, but that's not important, I make that toddle along well enough by itself! For the Foreigners among you the Open University is a respectable institution giving out well recognised degrees, not Patriot University of Bible Study and Diploma Milling or something similar. Check it out, esp those in the UK, it's a bloody good way to learn a subject to degree level in a non-traditional way. Louis P.S. "Students over the traditional age" rock and rock hard. In my experience they always make the best students because more often than not they want to study. I might be biased! -------------- Bye.

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2010,10:12    Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 16 2009,20:45) Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 16 2009,18:31)   Quote It also prepares the student to dismiss the arguments of creationists who misconstrue scientific challenges to Darwinism as contradictions to the validity of organic evolution. Now that's an area in which you probably have a big head start, due to precipitating here and at PT! Henry Yeah, definitely, though it looks like the text says what it has to say about the creationists and then gets on with real biology. (As it should, I might add.) My carousing here won't be much of an advantage in that respect, in the end. I've picked up way more than that hanging out here though, and that definitely puts me at a significant advantage in all my science classes. I am profoundly grateful for this place and its gallery of snarky rogues and assorted riff-raff. The finest riff-raff hang out here. ETA: Yes, I realize I responded to something a year old. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2010,11:05    Lou: 1. That sucks. 2. Congratulations. 3. Hey, sometimes school is exciting, sometimes it's just work. Life is rich, huh? Khan: no-one said we're Rapid Response Riff-Raff™! -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2010,18:32    Lou - Congrats and Ouch - I think we've all been there. Fortunately for you, I have a wonderful idea that will help your focus and get back on the Janie Bell and Kate Bandwagon:  YOU CAN START UP THE UNC IDEA CLUB!!! 111. Just imagine the fun, the excitement, the looks on the other club members when you bring in Casey Luskin hisself to speak to them!!!!  (BTW - Don't forget to fund raise enough to get him the extra airline seat required for his eyebrows.) I know.  You can thank me later - by posting a picture of the look on Casey's face as HE looks at your skinny little butt sans clothing! But srsly - keep on hanging in and hanging out. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2010,18:18    Hey, thanks all for the kindnesses. I'm feeling a bit better about things, and I appreciate your taking the time to speak up. ...or in the words of Bartles & Jaymes, Thank you, for your support. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

BWE Posts: 1902 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 15 2010,22:53    Hi Lou, Sorry things got rough. Life is full of twists I guess. But you should be in classes about now, yes? Just wanted to say that I'm a little jealous that you are taking a genetics class. When I went through biology, genetics was, er, not as advanced as it is now. All the young biologists/ecologists I meet these days have so much understanding it makes me want to go back just so I can get a structured understanding. Then I remember that it's also work and I go out and buy a 12 pack instead. But it's the thought that counts as they say. Also, as far as how big a pond it is, remember that C is average; you are not going to a pond full of bigger fish. Congratulations. -------------- Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered When wished on the morning star Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it Look what it's done so far The Daily Wingnut

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2010,17:55    Quote (Louis @ Aug. 16 2010,04:58) All I can say about the degree stuff is that you are an inspiration. Well done you. It takes a lot of courage to do what you've done (and no small amount of ability) so whatever headgear I am wearing has been very thoroughly taken off in your direction! When I say you are an inspiration by the way, I mean it literally. For my job I have to know/learn a lot of biology/biochem, I saw what you were doing and thought to myself "why the hell am I slogging through all this stuff to have no shiny object at the end of it? That Lou bloke is doing it, so can I!" So either October this year or January 2011 I am starting an Open University degree in Life Sciences whilst still working. So slightly different from you (this will take me about 6 years, and is done remotely for the most part). I'm doing this for a combination of personal edification, love of things biological, time saving (it saves me the effort of researching things to learn about, weird I know) and you never know, it might help my career (it might not, but that's not important, I make that toddle along well enough by itself!) Louis, I am humbled. I don't know what else to say about this. Lou -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2010,17:57    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 15 2010,23:14) I think several of us are in or have been in the "students over the traditional age" club. I'm sorry to hear that things haven't been going well lately. But I hope that you are able to get past that to take full advantage of the opportunities that may be available at your new school. When I think back to my undergrad days, I can recall that there were many chances I could have had to get involved that I passed by. Join or start a study group: a bit of structure in your life may be helpful to get you going. If there is a seminar series put on by your department, make an effort to go to it. Find out who's doing the research that most interests you and find out if they could use a volunteer. Thanks, Wesley. This all means a lot to me, the encouragement and the advice. Lou -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2010,17:59    Quote (BWE @ Sep. 15 2010,23:53) Hi Lou, Sorry things got rough. Life is full of twists I guess. But you should be in classes about now, yes? Just wanted to say that I'm a little jealous that you are taking a genetics class. When I went through biology, genetics was, er, not as advanced as it is now. All the young biologists/ecologists I meet these days have so much understanding it makes me want to go back just so I can get a structured understanding. Then I remember that it's also work and I go out and buy a 12 pack instead. But it's the thought that counts as they say. Also, as far as how big a pond it is, remember that C is average; you are not going to a pond full of bigger fish. Congratulations. BWE, I am always glad to hear from you, and you couldn't have picked a better time to show up with some encouragement. Peace, Brother Man, Lou P.S. Didja hear DNA is a double helix?? :) Enjoy the six pack, and tip one for me. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

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