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Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,09:16    Dense and Dreary has posted an OP that may qualify as the most stupid thin that she has ever posted (but I stand to be corrected. Supposed design flaws in the human body She starts with the one about our pelvis not being well "designed" for giving birth to large brained babies and that this limits the size of the human brain. Her response is priceless. Quote Okay, so Big Brains (like a whale?) would be some kind of advantage? No insult intended, but what have whales ever contributed to the stock of science knowledge?

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,09:33    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 02 2015,09:16) Dense and Dreary has posted an OP that may qualify as the most stupid thin that she has ever posted (but I stand to be corrected. Supposed design flaws in the human body She starts with the one about our pelvis not being well "designed" for giving birth to large brained babies and that this limits the size of the human brain. Her response is priceless.     Quote Okay, so Big Brains (like a whale?) would be some kind of advantage? No insult intended, but what have whales ever contributed to the stock of science knowledge? I dunno, her "the gene for selfishness' scored pretty well too. Here is the Nautilus article she is panning. Top 10 Design Flaws in the Human Body Notice she skipped over the tough ones like our designed-for-horizontal-but-is-vertical spine, our crowded mouth with wisdom teeth that can kill us, the recurrent laryngeal nerve, and of course men having exposed testicles. That last one deserves an O'Dreary/UD joke but I can't think of one quickly. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,10:01    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 02 2015,09:33) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 02 2015,09:16) Dense and Dreary has posted an OP that may qualify as the most stupid thin that she has ever posted (but I stand to be corrected. Supposed design flaws in the human body She starts with the one about our pelvis not being well "designed" for giving birth to large brained babies and that this limits the size of the human brain. Her response is priceless.     Quote Okay, so Big Brains (like a whale?) would be some kind of advantage? No insult intended, but what have whales ever contributed to the stock of science knowledge? I dunno, her "the gene for selfishness' scored pretty well too. Here is the Nautilus article she is panning. Top 10 Design Flaws in the Human Body Notice she skipped over the tough ones like our designed-for-horizontal-but-is-vertical spine, our crowded mouth with wisdom teeth that can kill us, the recurrent laryngeal nerve, and of course men having exposed testicles. :O That last one deserves an O'Dreary/UD joke but I can't think of one quickly. Yes, I would like to have a talk with the "designer" about the whole exposed testicle thing. What was he thinking? Or maybe we were designed this way to pave the way for America's Funniest Home Videos and Jackass.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,10:11    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 02 2015,17:33)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 02 2015,09:16) Dense and Dreary has posted an OP that may qualify as the most stupid thin that she has ever posted (but I stand to be corrected. Supposed design flaws in the human body She starts with the one about our pelvis not being well "designed" for giving birth to large brained babies and that this limits the size of the human brain. Her response is priceless.       Quote Okay, so Big Brains (like a whale?) would be some kind of advantage? No insult intended, but what have whales ever contributed to the stock of science knowledge? I dunno, her "the gene for selfishness' scored pretty well too. Here is the Nautilus article she is panning. Top 10 Design Flaws in the Human Body Notice she skipped over the tough ones like our designed-for-horizontal-but-is-vertical spine, our crowded mouth with wisdom teeth that can kill us, the recurrent laryngeal nerve, and of course men having exposed testicles. :O That last one deserves an O'Dreary/UD joke but I can't think of one quickly. BUT I CAN HOMO GIRLY MAN! TAHT CANADIAN MORPHODYKE WOULDN'T NO EXPOSED BALLS IF HER ASS WAS SHAVED AND HAD A MOUSTACH PAINTED ON IT AND HAD TO TO WALK ASSBACKWARDS. IN FACT SHE DOESN'T NO HER WHALE TESTICLES FROM HER ASSBACKWARDS. DENSE IS DUMBER THAN A MUD FENCE AND  A TRUCK FULL OF TURNIPS. ©davetard -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,10:15    Quote (Zachriel @ June 02 2015,05:57) Looks like fun.   Quote Timaeus Exposes Larry Moran http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....y-moran His main complaint appears to be that Moran hasn't done enough peer-reviewed work on evolutionary theory, and thus isn't qualified to discuss it.  He's making this complaint on a blog run by Barry Arrington and Denyse O'Leary. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,11:10    UD seems to be down at the moment.

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,11:23    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 02 2015,10:01) Yes, I would like to have a talk with the "designer" about the whole exposed testicle thing. What was he thinking? He?  She deliberately designed them that way, and you know why. -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,12:06    Waterl.....   Quote The shrill tone of people like Moran, Coyne and Dawkins is a sign of desperation. This culture did not exist 20 years ago. It’s a sign of desperation that I think is being fueled by the advent of the internet and the easy access to vast sources of information. Many people can now cheaply and quickly conduct their own research without being told how to think by others. The barbarians are at the gates and the high and mighty are panicking. I can sense the beginning of the end for the materialist age. It will eventually all be forgotten by history but I can’t wait to see how it unravels and crashes. ....the APOCALYPSE!

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,12:11    Quote (Woodbine @ June 02 2015,12:06) Waterl.....   Quote The shrill tone of people like Moran, Coyne and Dawkins is a sign of desperation. This culture did not exist 20 years ago. It’s a sign of desperation that I think is being fueled by the advent of the internet and the easy access to vast sources of information. Many people can now cheaply and quickly conduct their own research without being told how to think by others. The barbarians are at the gates and the high and mighty are panicking. I can sense the beginning of the end for the materialist age. It will eventually all be forgotten by history but I can’t wait to see how it unravels and crashes. ....the APOCALYPSE! Talk about a mix of truth and failure to self-reflect. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,13:10    Quote I can’t wait to see how it unravels and crashes. The phrase, get used to disappointment, comes to mind. I've been watching this on the internet since 1998, and the same expectation of imminent demise of evolution has been a constant. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,13:19    Quote (midwifetoad @ June 02 2015,11:10) Quote I can’t wait to see how it unravels and crashes. The phrase, get used to disappointment, comes to mind. I've been watching this on the internet since 1998, and the same expectation of imminent demise of evolution has been a constant. You could have been watching this on the internet in 1859, and seen it then. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,14:23    Quote (JohnW @ June 02 2015,13:19) Quote (midwifetoad @ June 02 2015,11:10)   Quote I can’t wait to see how it unravels and crashes. The phrase, get used to disappointment, comes to mind. I've been watching this on the internet since 1998, and the same expectation of imminent demise of evolution has been a constant. You could have been watching this on the internet in 1859, and seen it then. According to The Imminent Demise of Evolution: The Longest Running Falsehood in Creationism it has been going since 1825.  To quote the link: "Seeing all this, one can reasonably ask the question: When exactly will the demise of evolution be apparent to the rest of us?" -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2015,14:29    But look at the talent that design is finally attracting... No, wait, CSI, FIASCO, IC, KGB, and 2-4-D are all going to kill off evolution for good.  You'll see! Then, the Purge.  You know that's what keeps them going, Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2015,07:20    Barry's clients discover the Streisand Effect: Watch as this student gives the emotional speech he was banned from giving (TheJournal.ie) -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2015,09:19    Kariosflatus is now on Part 5 of his spittle flying meltdown / hissy fit at Elizabeth Liddle.  Comments off of course. You have to wonder why Banny Arrogant allows the waste of bandwidth.  Does anyone even bother to click on his screeds? -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2015,13:03    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 03 2015,10:19) Kariosflatus is now on Part 5 of his spittle flying meltdown / hissy fit at Elizabeth Liddle.  Comments off of course. You have to wonder why Banny Arrogant allows the waste of bandwidth.  Does anyone even bother to click on his screeds? Why does barry do any of this?

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2015,16:51    Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2015,13:03) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 03 2015,10:19) Kariosflatus is now on Part 5 of his spittle flying meltdown / hissy fit at Elizabeth Liddle.  Comments off of course. You have to wonder why Banny Arrogant allows the waste of bandwidth.  Does anyone even bother to click on his screeds? Why does barry do any of this? Quote Why does barry do any of this? IMHO Barry A. does this because he is a True Believer ™. 1.  He is an ambulance chaser 2.  He is a total asshole.  Anyone that knows him will attest to this.  Even Barry knows this.   Therefore, 3.  He does the Lies For Jesus ™ thing, aka "ID Science" so he can get some "Heavenly Cred" to make up for points 1 & 2, and  sneak into the Pearly Gates, or get the 72 virgins, whichever he secretly lusts for. This is just my opinion - your story may differ - but doesn't it Look Designed Just For Barry A? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2015,17:00    Quote (J-Dog @ June 03 2015,17:51) Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2015,13:03) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 03 2015,10:19) Kariosflatus is now on Part 5 of his spittle flying meltdown / hissy fit at Elizabeth Liddle.  Comments off of course. You have to wonder why Banny Arrogant allows the waste of bandwidth.  Does anyone even bother to click on his screeds? Why does barry do any of this? Quote Why does barry do any of this? IMHO Barry A. does this because he is a True Believer ™. 1.  He is an ambulance chaser 2.  He is a total asshole.  Anyone that knows him will attest to this.  Even Barry knows this.   Therefore, 3.  He does the Lies For Jesus ™ thing, aka "ID Science" so he can get some "Heavenly Cred" to make up for points 1 & 2, and  sneak into the Pearly Gates, or get the 72 virgins, whichever he secretly lusts for. This is just my opinion - your story may differ - but doesn't it Look Designed Just For Barry A? OT, but that reminds me of the comedian who said, "Who wants 72 virgins anyway? Give me 8 pros from Vegas."

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2015,17:08    Just took a look around UD. Denyse actually has a thread up where she quotes Peter Woit, string theory critic, and then basically just says there's no science in string theory, it's just done "because pop culture needs it." You know, because that's why theoretical physicists spend decades of their lives studying stultifyingly complex mathematical constructs. To satisfy pop culture.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 03 2015,17:38    Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2015,17:08) Just took a look around UD. Denyse actually has a thread up where she quotes Peter Woit, string theory critic, and then basically just says there's no science in string theory, it's just done "because pop culture needs it." You know, because that's why theoretical physicists spend decades of their lives studying stultifyingly complex mathematical constructs. To satisfy pop culture. O'Dreary has really been going off the rails lately, assuming she was ever on them in the first place.  Like her OP claiming that there was no such thing as macroevolution.  I though even the IDiots all agreed macroevolution happens, it's just GAWD, er, the Designer directed. The Big Tent gets more tattered every day. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Starbuck Posts: 26 Joined: July 2011 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,10:31    When there is a darth of critics in a forum of creationists, their inner creationist gets bolder and bolder. But when there are a bunch of critics correcting them they retreat back to god guided vagueries.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,10:36    Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2015,17:00) Quote (J-Dog @ June 03 2015,17:51) Quote (stevestory @ June 03 2015,13:03)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 03 2015,10:19) Kariosflatus is now on Part 5 of his spittle flying meltdown / hissy fit at Elizabeth Liddle.  Comments off of course. You have to wonder why Banny Arrogant allows the waste of bandwidth.  Does anyone even bother to click on his screeds? Why does barry do any of this?   Quote Why does barry do any of this? IMHO Barry A. does this because he is a True Believer ™. 1.  He is an ambulance chaser 2.  He is a total asshole.  Anyone that knows him will attest to this.  Even Barry knows this.   Therefore, 3.  He does the Lies For Jesus ™ thing, aka "ID Science" so he can get some "Heavenly Cred" to make up for points 1 & 2, and  sneak into the Pearly Gates, or get the 72 virgins, whichever he secretly lusts for. This is just my opinion - your story may differ - but doesn't it Look Designed Just For Barry A? OT, but that reminds me of the comedian who said, "Who wants 72 virgins anyway? Give me 8 pros from Vegas." He is at number 6 now. WHEN WILL THE INSANITY END? But at least we get to see another blown-up view of a fishing reel.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,12:58    Sean Samis lectures Barry Arrogant on the Constitution and the law. Barry gets spanked

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,16:51    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 04 2015,13:58) Sean Samis lectures Barry Arrogant on the Constitution and the law. Barry gets spanked Quote 50 sean samisJune 4, 2015 at 3:23 pm Eric, Regarding “a complete lack of understanding of what is required for abiogensis,” and “given the incredibly strict requirements for something like abiogenesis.” So you claim to know the requirements for a process you probably claim has never even been observed? How remarkable. Please tell us what these “incredibly strict requirements” are and how anyone knows them given that no one’s ever actually observed the process. sean s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....MHg0jjQ

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,17:32    Quote (stevestory @ June 04 2015,16:51)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 04 2015,13:58) Sean Samis lectures Barry Arrogant on the Constitution and the law. Barry gets spanked     Quote 50 sean samisJune 4, 2015 at 3:23 pm Eric, Regarding “a complete lack of understanding of what is required for abiogensis,” and “given the incredibly strict requirements for something like abiogenesis.” So you claim to know the requirements for a process you probably claim has never even been observed? How remarkable. Please tell us what these “incredibly strict requirements” are and how anyone knows them given that no one’s ever actually observed the process. sean s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....MHg0jjQ "sean samis is no longer with us" Not quite yet but it's a lock.    The over / under starts at 2 days. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,17:39    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 04 2015,17:32) Quote (stevestory @ June 04 2015,16:51)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 04 2015,13:58) Sean Samis lectures Barry Arrogant on the Constitution and the law. Barry gets spanked       Quote 50 sean samisJune 4, 2015 at 3:23 pm Eric, Regarding “a complete lack of understanding of what is required for abiogensis,” and “given the incredibly strict requirements for something like abiogenesis.” So you claim to know the requirements for a process you probably claim has never even been observed? How remarkable. Please tell us what these “incredibly strict requirements” are and how anyone knows them given that no one’s ever actually observed the process. sean s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....MHg0jjQ "sean samis is no longer with us" Not quite yet but it's a lock.   :p  The over / under starts at 2 days. I don't give him two days. He has questioned Barry's understanding of evolution and of the law. The only two things that Barry claims (without any supporting evidence) to know anything about. I generally get banned in less than a day for questioning only one of these.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,17:50    This is good too.  On the "Timaeus Exposes Larry Moran" thread several of the IDiots are panning Larry Moran because of his low ratings on ratemyprofessor.com.   Timaeus to his credit has admitted those stats have zero relevance to LM's knowledge of evolutionary biochemistry.  Soundburger doesn't want to let go yet, keeps bringing up the results to prove LM must be incompetent. How much current relevance does ratemyprofessor's LM rating have?  Out of 26 rating posts there are 1 post from 2015 1 post from 2009 1 post from 2008 23 from 2006 or earlier. Linky Pretty much the only type of reviews on RMP are negative ones from kids who failed the course and want to hit back at the professor.  But still UD, bitching about 3 reviews in the last 9 years and only 1 in the last 6?   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,17:57    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 04 2015,17:50)  Soundburger The most confusing Decepticon. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,18:03    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 04 2015,17:50) This is good too.  On the "Timaeus Exposes Larry Moran" thread several of the IDiots are panning Larry Moran because of his low ratings on ratemyprofessor.com.   Timaeus to his credit has admitted those stats have zero relevance to LM's knowledge of evolutionary biochemistry.  Soundburger doesn't want to let go yet, keeps bringing up the results to prove LM must be incompetent. How much current relevance does ratemyprofessor's LM rating have?  Out of 26 rating posts there are 1 post from 2015 1 post from 2009 1 post from 2008 23 from 2006 or earlier. Linky Pretty much the only type of reviews on RMP are negative ones from kids who failed the course and want to hit back at the professor.  But still UD, bitching about 3 reviews in the last 9 years and only 1 in the last 6?  :D Given that the moderator at UD is a lawyer, I suggest that you type "ratemylawyer.com" into your URL box. The result might surprise you. Or maybe it won't.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: June 04 2015,18:07    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 04 2015,18:03) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ June 04 2015,17:50) This is good too.  On the "Timaeus Exposes Larry Moran" thread several of the IDiots are panning Larry Moran because of his low ratings on ratemyprofessor.com.   Timaeus to his credit has admitted those stats have zero relevance to LM's knowledge of evolutionary biochemistry.  Soundburger doesn't want to let go yet, keeps bringing up the results to prove LM must be incompetent. How much current relevance does ratemyprofessor's LM rating have?  Out of 26 rating posts there are 1 post from 2015 1 post from 2009 1 post from 2008 23 from 2006 or earlier. Linky Pretty much the only type of reviews on RMP are negative ones from kids who failed the course and want to hit back at the professor.  But still UD, bitching about 3 reviews in the last 9 years and only 1 in the last 6?  :D Given that the moderator at UD is a lawyer, I suggest that you type "ratemylawyer.com" into your URL box. The result might surprise you. Or maybe it won't. I assure you, it won't.

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