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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,18:34

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Ahem, actually I think HIS butt is hurting for different reasons.

Actually, that picture looks like Mr Christopher's mother after a bad night.

Which is to say, any night.

Especially last night. Yeesh.

My mother's hair is BLONDE!

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,18:35

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Aug. 15 2008,16:34)

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 15 2008,12:59)

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Aug. 15 2008,07:49)

Ahem, actually I think HIS butt is hurting for different reasons.

Actually, that picture looks like Mr Christopher's mother after a bad night.

Which is to say, any night.

Especially last night. Yeesh.

My mother's hair is BLONDE!

Not everywhere.

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,18:43

Ha ha ha. �You're wrong Arden, because I dye her hair!

Ok...So from a SA article:

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�What they should have done is contact a reputable scientist and have it examined at a known university,� said Benjamin Radford, who writes for the Skeptical Inquirer magazine and has followed Bigfoot hunters for more than ten years. �Instead, this whole thing is very cloak and dagger. It all about, �We have unnamed scientists working at an undisclosed location under armed guard.��

I say, is that a description of the big foot "science" or the intelligent design "lab"?

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,18:54

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It all about, �We have unnamed scientists working at an undisclosed location under armed guard.��

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I say, is that a description of the big foot "science" or the intelligent design "lab"?

You're suggesting the intelligent design lab is located in a secure facility for the criminally insane?

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,19:00

Armed guard?? What the hell, do they think there is some kind of government conspiracy who want to cover up Big Foot. Or just the eeeeevil scientists with there massive armies of....calculators and....bunsen burners!!!

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,19:17

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Armed guard?? What the hell, do they think there is some kind of government conspiracy who want to cover up Big Foot. Or just the eeeeevil scientists with there massive armies of....calculators and....bunsen burners!!!

Would you like a guard without arms? Where would he attach his hands?

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,19:38

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 15 2008,18:02)

well it seems to me that DNA of Bigfoot would be recognizable particularly if it is a homind. �there are enough things sequenced for COI out there that you'd know what the hell it was with a small chunk of mtDNA. �

If it is a hominid then presumably it would fall out between humans and chimps. �of course if DNA similarities are the consequence of common design then what would be the hypothesis?

Unless, of course, it is, as some have suggested, an offshoot of Gigantopithecus in which case the DNA would place it near orangutangs. If I were going to fake it, that's how I'd start...

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,19:46

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Aug. 15 2008,19:43)

I say, is that a description of the big foot "science" or the intelligent design "lab"?

Yes.

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,19:57

Since I am just a stupid software guy who does image processing. I know how easy it is to fake pixel based thingys. I wanna know would it be hard these days to throw together some fake DNA with a mix of human and ape good enough to make it look like it might be hominid DNA.

PS... yes I am ashamed by all those "expert" ID types that have a background in software.

Oh, and one thing I do know... never let the PhD guy write software unless his PhD is in computer science. I had to untangle some math guys stuff. He was a great at math, but he should have been kept away from the complier. I had to get a shot at you smart guys.

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,20:52

Quote (Assassinator @ Aug. 15 2008,17:00)

Armed guard?? What the hell, do they think there is some kind of government conspiracy who want to cover up Big Foot. Or just the eeeeevil scientists with there massive armies of....calculators and....bunsen burners!!!

Don't forget test tubes and pocket protectors.

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,21:35

Quote (Tulle @ Aug. 15 2008,19:57)

Since I am just a stupid software guy who does image processing. I know how easy it is to fake pixel based thingys. I wanna know would it be hard these days to throw together some fake DNA with a mix of human and ape good enough to make it look like it might be hominid DNA.

PS... yes I am ashamed by all those "expert" ID types that have a background in software.

Oh, and one thing I do know... never let the PhD guy write software unless his PhD is in computer science. I had to untangle some math guys stuff. He was a great at math, but he should have been kept away from the complier. I had to get a shot at you smart guys.

i dont think that is possible. like someone said before they could give you a fake sequence but no way are they going to construct any significant sized chunk of DNA that also fits in the right phylogenetic node (which as noted above could be in several different clades, no one knows what the hell 'bigfoot' would be).

which by the way is interesting, gigantopithecus. i wish it were true. i hear bigfoot is in northern california.

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,22:00

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i hear bigfoot is in northern california.

Do you have an address?

Asking the right question to the right person often saves a lot of time... :-)

I think I decided it was a fake after seeing this.
I think it was the Knight Rider music. �

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,22:59

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 15 2008,21:35)

Quote (Tulle @ Aug. 15 2008,19:57)

Since I am just a stupid software guy who does image processing. I know how easy it is to fake pixel based thingys. I wanna know would it be hard these days to throw together some fake DNA with a mix of human and ape good enough to make it look like it might be hominid DNA.

PS... yes I am ashamed by all those "expert" ID types that have a background in software.

Oh, and one thing I do know... never let the PhD guy write software unless his PhD is in computer science. I had to untangle some math guys stuff. He was a great at math, but he should have been kept away from the complier. I had to get a shot at you smart guys.

i dont think that is possible. �like someone said before they could give you a fake sequence but no way are they going to construct any significant sized chunk of DNA that also fits in the right phylogenetic node (which as noted above could be in several different clades, no one knows what the hell 'bigfoot' would be).

which by the way is interesting, gigantopithecus. �i wish it were true. �i hear bigfoot is in northern california.

Yes, I have to agree. In order to pull something like that off you would need short enough sequences that they couldn't identify the species, but then you would have to say that the DNA has degraded in order to explain the short sequences. Then you would have to explain why the DNA is degraded in a fresh specimen. All in all it would be easier to fake a report than it would be to fake the actual DNA.

Rumor has it bigfoot is in southern Missouri as well...

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Posted: Aug. 15 2008,23:43

Or they could have... oh, I don't know... invited a news crew over to see their frozen monkey man, instead of releasing a picture that looks like it was taken with a Barbie brand digital camera and then stampeding straight to the secret lab and DNA tests.

Hey, this DOES sound like ID work.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,00:01

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do you have an address

wherever tarden lives. bigfoot is his first and third wife. or so i have heard.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,06:20

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do you have an address

wherever tarden lives. bigfoot is his first and third wife. or so i have heard.

Goony Goo Goo

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,06:39

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do you have an address

wherever tarden lives. �bigfoot is his first and third wife. �or so i have heard.

Goony Goo Goo

SNAP!

I was thinking the exact same thing.

"Your wife is a bigfoot, Gus, she ain't no Puerto Rican!"

Louis

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,06:54

Apparently, they sent the samples to a university scientist who returned negative results (Human and possum DNA).
These guys are not afraid to waste other people's time with their sh*t.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,07:06

Here's a link to Reuters' coverage

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Results from tests on genetic material from alleged remains of one of the mythical half-ape and half-human creatures, made public at a news conference on Friday held after the claimed discovery swept the Internet, failed to prove its existence.

Its spread was fuelled by a photograph of a hairy heap, bearing a close resemblance to a shaggy full-body gorilla costume, stuffed into a container resembling a refrigerator.

One of the two samples of DNA said to prove the existence of the Bigfoot came from a human and the other was 96 percent from an opossum, according to Curt Nelson, a scientist at the University of Minnesota who performed the DNA analysis.

I am shocked.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,07:57

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do you have an address

wherever tarden lives. �bigfoot is his first and third wife. �or so i have heard.

"I married Bigfoot."

It reminds me one of the best episodes of The Simpsons.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,08:24

maybe we are getting far far far ahead of ourselves.

Let's not throw the possum suggestion away so quickly. Bigfoot could be a giant marsupial. �Why can this not be true. �After all Louis has an internal butt pouch. �

Teach the controversy!

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,10:25

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Aug. 16 2008,14:24)

maybe we are getting far far far ahead of ourselves.

Let's not throw the possum suggestion away so quickly. �Bigfoot could be a giant marsupial. �Why can this not be true. �After all Louis has an internal butt pouch. �

Teach the controversy!

It's called a "colon", dumbass!

Just because yours has been rogered out of you by legions of mountain men using you as their temporary "man-wife" on hunting excursions doesn't mean that your ignorance of basic human anatomy is in any way excusable.

Louis

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,11:30

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Just because yours has been rogered out of you by legions of mountain men using you as their temporary "man-wife" on hunting excursions doesn't mean that your ignorance of basic human anatomy is in any way excusable.

That would be an excellent description of how the cryptozoology community feels this morning. They went from the thrill of victory to the horrid realization that they had been totally "rogered" as Louis so delicately put it. Now denial has set in...

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,13:05

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Just because yours has been rogered out of you by legions of mountain men using you as their temporary "man-wife" on hunting excursions doesn't mean that your ignorance of basic human anatomy is in any way excusable.

That would be an excellent description of how the cryptozoology community feels this morning. They went from the thrill of victory to the horrid realization that they had been totally "rogered" as Louis so delicately put it. Now denial has set in...

Let's be blunt, the cryptozooLOLogy community should be used to it by now.

There's nothing more I'd like than to have some ETs found, or a big foot, or a plesiosaur in Loch Ness, or a Jesus somewhere, but lets be even blunter than usual: bloody unlikely innit?

Louis

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,14:15

Quote (Louis @ Aug. 16 2008,13:05)

Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 16 2008,17:30)

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Just because yours has been rogered out of you by legions of mountain men using you as their temporary "man-wife" on hunting excursions doesn't mean that your ignorance of basic human anatomy is in any way excusable.

That would be an excellent description of how the cryptozoology community feels this morning. They went from the thrill of victory to the horrid realization that they had been totally "rogered" as Louis so delicately put it. Now denial has set in...

Let's be blunt, the cryptozooLOLogy community should be used to it by now.

There's nothing more I'd like than to have some ETs found, or a big foot, or a plesiosaur in Loch Ness, or a Jesus somewhere, but lets be even blunter than usual: bloody unlikely innit?

Louis

Totally unlikely, and yeah, they should be used to it by now.

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,18:43

Could the Big Foot be a lost cousin of the Addam's family?

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Posted: Aug. 16 2008,22:36

i don't even know anybody named roger. you however spit out a tooth while you said that. i kicked it under the couch, it was pretty rotten and crumbly.

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Posted: Aug. 17 2008,02:23

Why in the world would a DNA sample of bigfoot end up in Minnesota? Couldn't they find a closer lab? I also seriously doubt that any lab in Minnesota would be under armed guard.

Silly stuff.

My chief on the submarine was bigfoot. Well, he had one, anyway. Don't ask me how I know that.

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Posted: Aug. 18 2008,10:28

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