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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2021,12:07   

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“SteveStory is Proud to be an Ignorant Faggot” is probly going on my résumé.  :p

It could go on Acartia Bogart's too.

(AB - have you considered changing your name to Spartacus?)

Given the number of times Joe has accused someone of being me, I was thinking of changing my name to Brian.

I’m Brian, and so’s my wife.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2021,01:05   

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March 8, 2021 at 12:36 am
A “virus” didn’t close wine bars. Demonic governments, everywhere but South Dakota and Tanzania, closed wine bars.

If we want to discuss alternate universes, we should be asking why those two places are the SANE universe, while every other place is the DEMONIC universe. For one thing, those two places don’t have a lot of wine bars, or a lot of inbred imbecilic aristocrats who enjoy superficial intellectual Conversations in wine bars.


First, ‘DEMONIC’ LOL, Second, somebody should tell this numbnut that South Dakota has the second highest number of cases per capita in the United States, and the eighth highest number of deaths per capita from the virus. South Dakota has been a catastrophe.

ETA Demons!

Edited by stevestory on Mar. 08 2021,02:06

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2021,10:29   

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March 8, 2021 at 12:36 am
A “virus” didn’t close wine bars. Demonic governments, everywhere but South Dakota and Tanzania, closed wine bars.

If we want to discuss alternate universes, we should be asking why those two places are the SANE universe, while every other place is the DEMONIC universe. For one thing, those two places don’t have a lot of wine bars, or a lot of inbred imbecilic aristocrats who enjoy superficial intellectual Conversations in wine bars.


First, ‘DEMONIC’ LOL, Second, somebody should tell this numbnut that South Dakota has the second highest number of cases per capita in the United States, and the eighth highest number of deaths per capita from the virus. South Dakota has been a catastrophe.

ETA Demons!

Is it just me or is Polistra's word salad full of sour grapes?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2021,14:55   

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March 8, 2021 at 9:53 am
FYI: I noticed something: both Sandy and Lieutenant Commander Data spell “idea” as “ideea”, which is quite unusual.

Also, both punctuate commas incorrectly: instead of this, they do this ,.


If you’re going to use a sock puppet, it’s a good idea not to be a dumdum.  :p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2021,19:10   

Cults tell you that you can’t trust information from your old friends. Or your parents. Or your brother and sister. Or documentaries about Exalted Brother Luminos. Or anybody who could tell you that you’re being fed bullshit.

Conservative outlets tell you that you can’t trust the New York Times or the Washington Post or the Bethune Recorder. Or those scientists at MIT and Harvard and Caltech. Or the papers in Journal of Molecular Biology, Nature: Biology, Cell, etc. Or the IPCC or NOAA or NASA. Or Snopes. Or anybody who could tell you that you’re being fed bullshit.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2021,02:02   

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Viola Lee
March 8, 2021 at 9:53 am
FYI: I noticed something: both Sandy and Lieutenant Commander Data spell “idea” as “ideea”, which is quite unusual.

Also, both punctuate commas incorrectly: instead of this, they do this ,.


[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/laws/should-we-recognise-that-laws-of-nature-extend-to-laws-of-our-human-nature-which-would-the

n-frame-civil-law/#comment-725727]If you’re going to use a sock puppet, it’s a good idea not to be a dumdum.[/URL]  :p

The comma thing is more complex: LCD and Sandy both seem to have stochastic spaces around punctuation (other than full stops).

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2021,15:16   

We keep waiting for that poor guy’s sister to lead him away from the keyboard....

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2021,06:36   

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Josh Swamidass on the need to single out and punish creationists

One key effect of Cancel Culture is the elimination of competition by citing grounds that are irrelevant to performance


Creationists? Who’s talkin bout Creationists? We’re all fancy sophisticated Intelligent Design Theorists around here.

LOL

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2021,07:29   

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March 12, 2021 at 7:15 am
KF @ 952,
No matter how many times you assert that my behavior relates to a duty, you have not established anything – logically – as a duty in the first place. At one point I gave you that arguendo, but that is no longer the case. I’ve explained – logically – that the concept of a duty cannot be applied to existential unavoidables.

@953:
That doesn’t even address my rebuttal; you’re just repeating what you said before my rebuttal.

You’ll have to do better than an out-of-context response to some line that “caught your eye” and triggered a rote repetition of what you said before the rebuttal, as if that addresses the rebuttal to the very thing you said before and just repeated.


Linky

But burning strawmen in oil of ad hominems!  :p  ;)  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 12 2021,11:20   

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William J Murray
March 12, 2021 at 7:15 am
KF @ 952,
No matter how many times you assert that my behavior relates to a duty, you have not established anything – logically – as a duty in the first place. At one point I gave you that arguendo, but that is no longer the case. I’ve explained – logically – that the concept of a duty cannot be applied to existential unavoidables.

@953:
That doesn’t even address my rebuttal; you’re just repeating what you said before my rebuttal.

You’ll have to do better than an out-of-context response to some line that “caught your eye” and triggered a rote repetition of what you said before the rebuttal, as if that addresses the rebuttal to the very thing you said before and just repeated.


Linky

But burning strawmen in oil of ad hominems!  :p  ;)  :D

Was Gordo's mom's name ELIZA, do you think?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2021,01:55   

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March 12, 2021 at 11:29 am
ET: There isn’t any evidence that nature, i.e. blind and mindless processes, can produce coded information processing systems and living organisms are ruled by them. It doesn’t matter how far back the question is kicked. That answer will never change.

Yes, I am aware of your opinion. But I was just discussing the paper linked to by Martin_r. You don’t have to push your viewpoint every chance you get like a dog marking its territory. You CAN just let people have a discussion without putting your two cents in.

Panspermia is an interesting hypothesis, okay with both ID supporters and unguided evolutionists because it avoids the disagreement.

From the unguided stance it does simplify things quite a lot about the OoL question. But, again, from that point of view, it just pushes the question back onto another solar system somewhere . . . .

From the ID point of view it calls into question, I think, of the Earth being special and ‘designed’ or picked. Some of the designed arguments make statements about the age and cosmological position of the earth. I’m not a proponent of ID so I’ll stop speculating on how panspermia fits in with their views. It would be an interesting point of discussion?
Linky

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2021,08:29   

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Martin_r
March 13, 2021 at 8:19 am
JVL, you (and the scientists) are not very smart, are you ?

again, how panspermia solves the OOL issue ? So now you believe that first cell evolved somewhere else in the universe ? so now you BELIEVE that MIRACLES (the mainstream scientists talked about) are happening SOMEWHERE else in the universe ?


This is the guy who said he was confused that scientists were confident in evolution. You know how could we just sit there and fail to understand that creationists have ANNIHILATED DARWINISM  :p

ETA Linky

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2021,08:37   

Martin I bet if you ask nicely, some biologist will give you an old Evolutionary Biology final exam, say, from 2018 or thereabouts. You can take it, and get an F- and maybe it’ll occur to you why we’re confident.  :)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 13 2021,09:02   

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March 13, 2021 at 5:07 am

Martin_r: Why are you changing the subject to panspermia? I don’t get how panspermia answers this miracle-questions… did you mean, that somewhere else in universe miracles happen ?


The paper you cited hypothesises that panspermia solves the problem of how life came to be on Earth. From the abstract:

In our view the totality of the multifactorial data and critical analyses assembled by Fred Hoyle, Chandra Wickramasinghe and their many colleagues since the 1960s leads to a very plausible conclusion – life may have been seeded here on Earth by life-bearing comets as soon as conditions on Earth allowed it to flourish (about or just before 4.1 Billion years ago); and living organisms such as space-resistant and space-hardy bacteria, viruses, more complex eukaryotic cells, fertilised ova and seeds have been continuously delivered ever since to Earth so being one important driver of further terrestrial evolution which has resulted in considerable genetic diversity and which has led to the emergence of mankind.

Didn’t you even read the abstract? Or the title: Cause of Cambrian Explosion – Terrestrial or Cosmic?


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2021,19:44   

Our favourite homophobe responded to the comment that gays do what comes naturally to them with the following.
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Murderers do what comes natural to them. Rapists do what comes natural to them. Thieves do what comes natural to them. Bullies do what comes natural to them.

A homophobe says what?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2021,07:09   

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Murderers do what comes natural to them. Rapists do what comes natural to them. Thieves do what comes natural to them. Bullies do what comes natural to them.

[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/laws/should-we-recognise-that-laws-of-nature-extend-to-laws-of-our-human-nature-which-would-the

n-frame-civil-law/#comment-726171]A homophobe says what?[/URL]

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2021,08:24   

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William J Murray
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KF @ 952,
No matter how many times you assert that my behavior relates to a duty, you have not established anything – logically – as a duty in the first place. At one point I gave you that arguendo, but that is no longer the case. I’ve explained – logically – that the concept of a duty cannot be applied to existential unavoidables.

@953:
That doesn’t even address my rebuttal; you’re just repeating what you said before my rebuttal.

You’ll have to do better than an out-of-context response to some line that “caught your eye” and triggered a rote repetition of what you said before the rebuttal, as if that addresses the rebuttal to the very thing you said before and just repeated.


Linky

But burning strawmen in oil of ad hominems!  :p  ;)  :D

Was Gordo's mom's name ELIZA, do you think?

Geez I'm old enough to remember her. If the former Gordo is a Natural Language Processor  he ascribes points bassackwards vis à vis pronouns, verbs and subjects c.f. Eliza, such that his ego gets the most points in an sentence 18th century school marm passive agressive manner.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2021,08:29   

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Our favourite homophobe responded to the comment that gays do what comes naturally to them with the following.
 
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Murderers do what comes natural to them. Rapists do what comes natural to them. Thieves do what comes natural to them. Bullies do what comes natural to them.

[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/laws/should-we-recognise-that-laws-of-nature-extend-to-laws-of-our-human-nature-which-would-the



n-frame-civil-law/#comment-726171]A homophobe says what?[/URL]

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HAHAHAHAHA Joe "I'm not a homophobe" Homophobe CANCELLED by UD. What Would Trump Do?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2021,09:59   

Has UD's market/tribe succumbed to irrelevance? Surely they still buy ride on lawnmowers, incontinence briefs and Carnival cruises for a holiday in hell? No? They must be going after the homo/lesbo market. Fair cop, but still wearing condoms on their fingers as they hold their noses and type away at the sucks to be them machine reeks of desperation.  Are they now all yodelling in the valley? Performing the reach around in broad daylight? Joe must be sad 😥.

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Yes, yes, but for which of your many socks?

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Yes, yes, but for which of your many socks?

I will never tell.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2021,06:37   

KF again avoiding a relevant issue that he can’t defend.
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NOTICE:

FOLKS, THE OH WHAT ABOUT THIS AND THAT RIFF ON DISTRACTIVE SIDE ISSUES HAS GONE ON IN THE FACE OF MY STRONG STATEMENT THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE USED TO PULL THE DISCUSSION OFF TRACK.

IT IS A STRONG SIGN THAT OBJECTORS HAVE LOST THE EXCHANGE ON SUBSTANTIAL MERITS AND NOW WISH TO PULL THE TRIFECTA FALLACY: RED HERRING DISTRACTORS, LED AWAY TO STRAWMAN CARICATURES SOAKED IN AD HOMINEMS AND SET ALIGHT TO CREATE A TOXIC CONFUSING CLOUD OF NEEDLESS POLARISATION. PRECISELY, BECAUSE THE SUBSTANTIAL MATTER GOES WHERE THEY DO NOT WANT TO GO.

THERE WAS ALREADY A UD THREAD THAT DEALT WITH THE FASHIONABLE SEXUALLY TINGED PERVERSITIES OF THE DAY [HERE IS A CORRECTIVE BOOK ON THE CORE ISSUES] AND THERE IS NO GOOD REASON TO ALLOW THREAD AFTER THREAD TO BE DRAGGED OFF INTO THE SEWER OF EVER MORE BIZARRE PSYCHO-SEXUAL PATHOLOGIES TRIGGERED BY THE CROOKED YARDSTICK EFFECT.

THE CHOICE IS, RETURN TO RESPONSIBLE ON TOPIC DISCUSSION OR DISCIPLINARY ACTION, WHICH WILL OF COURSE BE DECRIED AS CENSORSHIP.

GIVEN THAT DILEMMA I WILL PICK THE LATTER EVERY TIME. THERE IS ENOUGH WARNING ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT, AND VL I AM LOOKING STRAIGHT AT YOU AND NAMING YOU IN THE FULL PARLIAMENTARY SENSE. YOU CHOSE TO TRY TO PULL THE THREAD OFF TRACK ABOVE.

GEM OF TKI, THREAD OWNER

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2021,11:30   

Viola Lee responded to KF's direct challenge.

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KF writes, “VL I AM LOOKING STRAIGHT AT YOU AND NAMING YOU IN THE FULL PARLIAMENTARY SENSE. YOU CHOSE TO TRY TO PULL THE THREAD OFF TRACK ABOVE.”

The title of this thread is “Should We Recognise That “Laws Of Nature” Extend To Laws Of Our Human Nature? (Which, Would Then Frame Civil Law.)”

The first paragraph says, “The focal topic asks us whether our civil law is effectively an accident of power balances, or else, could it be accountable to a built in law that pivots on first duties coeval with our humanity.”

My answer to the OP question and the “else” part of the second question is No. However, I also think your second question presents a false dichotomy: civil law is also not an “accident” of power balances.

Human beings are rational, moral, and free-willed creatures (but not for the reasons and in the ways you claim). We have to assess the sometimes very messy real world concerning all sorts of issues, and well-meaning and equally well-qualified people often come to different opinions about things. There are no “correct” answers: people have to hammer it out among themselves how they want their society to be structured.

Yes, power and wealth enter into this, but not exclusively, and so does learning and general socialization (both issues mentioned by others during this thread). The civil law we build is not an “accident”: rather it the cultural consequence of the actions of people advocating, in whatever ways they can, for what they believe is best for themselves and society in general.

A key way in which your philosophy fails is that you insist that in cases of disagreement about moral issues, one party is correctly utilizing “natural law”, “right reason”, etc., and that the others are defective, as aptly illustrated by your “crooked yardstick” metaphor.

So when a real-world situation is brought up, you don’t know how to respond other than to fall back, again and again, on abstract philosophy. That is why it is important, and relevant to the OP, to bring up issues which highlight this deficiency.

You consider same-sex issues as “sewer” issues. That does nothing other than to highlight how what you think are “natural laws” issues are really just your personal emotional reactions to something you can’t fathom: for all your talk about neighborliness, and conscience, and justice, and fairness, you can’t in fact empathize with the humanity of people who have different sexual orientations than what you think is correct, nor with all of us who support their desires to be seen and treated as full-fledged fellow citizens and human beings.

So I am not “pulling the thread off track.” I’m trying to make the thread continue down the track that you refuse to take: one the questions the premises and conclusions you state in your OP. If you ask questions, you need to be prepared for people to answer.

The majority of the people in this country support, to various degrees, same-sex relationships, including sexual, and marriage. You don’t: you think it’s a sign of the decay of civilization. Fine: have your opinion, advocate for your position, gives reasons why you hold it. But don’t think that claiming that some proper use of “right reason” gives your opinion some special credence that those of us who disagree with you don’t have.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2021,14:18   

What if a rational analysis is the last thing KF wants?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2021,05:41   

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What if a rational analysis is the last thing KF wants?

That may well be true. But KF does appear to want to present himself as if he were interested in rational analysis, yes? So anyone who throws that posture into doubt will of course be anathema to KF.

  
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KF: PLEASE LEAVE THIS THREAD, NOW. There will be no further warnings. KF

Um, okay.

It’s always amusing to me when someone builds a fire and then whines when it gets too hot.

I win.
LOL

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2021,01:41   

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From the Kairosfocus thread that I have been banned from for posting links to scientific articles that support the benefits to society of same sex marriage.

Viola Lee “What you think is “inherently disordered” and “in the sewer” I don’t, and I don’t believe your opinion has any special access to “natural law” et al. I think this highlights what is wrong with the thesis of your OP.”

I have to agree. What Kairosfocus declares as “in the sewer” is central to his arguments. But rather than address them he declares them off-limits. I guess that is one way to dominate the discussion.

Since legalization of same sex marriage and the “normalization” of same sex attraction, teen suicides have decreased. And children raised by same sex couples are scoring higher at school. It is obviously not all sunshine and lollipops, but it certainly isn’t the dire consequences that people like Kairosfocus and others were harping on about.


Poor dumb KF.  :p

   
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March 18, 2021 at 11:43 am

Viola Lee: Any worldview which leads to such a condemnatory view of critical and important aspects of the lives of a substantial percentage of your fellow human beings is wrong.

Ah, but you don’t believe in sin, Kairosfocus does. What for you (and me) is an alternate life-style is wrong in the eyes of God for Kairosfocus. It’s not him making the judgement, it’s God.

I expect he will say something like that but at much greater length.
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n-frame-civil-law/#comment-726436


We really need to petition them to not write links that sound like Lenny Small from Of Mice and Men. Those type links are usually KF, no surprise.

:)  :)  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2021,16:09   

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March 18, 2021 at 11:43 am

Viola Lee: Any worldview which leads to such a condemnatory view of critical and important aspects of the lives of a substantial percentage of your fellow human beings is wrong.

Ah, but you don’t believe in sin, Kairosfocus does. What for you (and me) is an alternate life-style is wrong in the eyes of God for Kairosfocus. It’s not him making the judgement, it’s God.

I expect he will say something like that but at much greater length.
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https://uncommondescent.com/laws/should-we-recognise-that-laws-of-nature-extend-to-laws-of-our-human-nature-which-would-the


n-frame-civil-law/#comment-726436


We really need to petition them to not write links that sound like Lenny Small from Of Mice and Men. Those type links are usually KF, no surprise.

:)  :)  :p

But then how will everyone else realize that his is the superior intellect?

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