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Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,10:04    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2019,09:57) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:37) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,11:13) Frequency OR EQUIVALENTLY wavelength JokeLogic: An Olympic sized swimming pool is 50 meters long OR EQUIVALENTLY 54.7 yards. Therefore meters = yards.   :) You are incorrect. Except underwater where the wavelength is stretched, according to William spearshake.  :D -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,10:14    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,08:14)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:16)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,10:54) Actual evolution says that vision systems evolved from populations of sightless organisms. That cannot be moiled [sic]. Poor stupid ignorant Joke face plants again.         Quote The 'division of labour' model of eye evolution Arendt et al Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 2009 364, 31 August 2009 Abstract:  The ‘division of labour’ model of eye evolution is elaborated here. We propose that the evolution of complex, multicellular animal eyes started from a single, multi-functional cell type that existed in metazoan ancestors. This ancient cell type had at least three functions: light detection via a photoreceptive organelle, light shading by means of pigment granules and steering through locomotor cilia. Located around the circumference of swimming ciliated zooplankton larvae, these ancient cells were able to mediate phototaxis in the absence of a nervous system. This precursor then diversified, by cell-type functional segregation, into sister cell types that specialized in different subfunctions, evolving into separate photoreceptor cells, shading pigment cells (SPCs) or ciliated locomotor cells. Photoreceptor sensory cells and ciliated locomotor cells remained interconnected by newly evolving axons, giving rise to an early axonal circuit. In some evolutionary lines, residual functions prevailed in the specialized cell types that mirror the ancient multi-functionality, for instance, SPCs expressing an opsin as well as possessing rhabdomer-like microvilli, vestigial cilia and an axon. Functional segregation of cell types in eye evolution also explains the emergence of more elaborate photosensory–motor axonal circuits, with interneurons relaying the visual information. Joke will now attempt to deflect by screaming "that doesn't explain the evolution of eukaryotes!" or "the title doesn't say blind and mindless!"   Joke Gallien, dumbest person on the planet.   Waaaaah!  Waaaah!  I made another dumbass claim and got refuted on it immediately!  Waaaaah! LOL!  Sure called that one didn't I?   Of course predicting Joke Gallien will lie and dodge when caught in a mistake is the world's surest bet.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,10:25    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:14) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,08:14)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:16)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,10:54) Actual evolution says that vision systems evolved from populations of sightless organisms. That cannot be moiled [sic]. Poor stupid ignorant Joke face plants again. :)           Quote The 'division of labour' model of eye evolution Arendt et al Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 2009 364, 31 August 2009 Abstract:  The ‘division of labour’ model of eye evolution is elaborated here. We propose that the evolution of complex, multicellular animal eyes started from a single, multi-functional cell type that existed in metazoan ancestors. This ancient cell type had at least three functions: light detection via a photoreceptive organelle, light shading by means of pigment granules and steering through locomotor cilia. Located around the circumference of swimming ciliated zooplankton larvae, these ancient cells were able to mediate phototaxis in the absence of a nervous system. This precursor then diversified, by cell-type functional segregation, into sister cell types that specialized in different subfunctions, evolving into separate photoreceptor cells, shading pigment cells (SPCs) or ciliated locomotor cells. Photoreceptor sensory cells and ciliated locomotor cells remained interconnected by newly evolving axons, giving rise to an early axonal circuit. In some evolutionary lines, residual functions prevailed in the specialized cell types that mirror the ancient multi-functionality, for instance, SPCs expressing an opsin as well as possessing rhabdomer-like microvilli, vestigial cilia and an axon. Functional segregation of cell types in eye evolution also explains the emergence of more elaborate photosensory–motor axonal circuits, with interneurons relaying the visual information. Joke will now attempt to deflect by screaming "that doesn't explain the evolution of eukaryotes!" or "the title doesn't say blind and mindless!"   :D Joke Gallien, dumbest person on the planet.   :D LoL! timmy didn't read the paper he is trying to bluff with. I challenge timmy to make its case that there is an actual model there with a step-by-step sequence of vision system formation. I own the pre-eminent book on the subject- "Evolution's Witness" on the evolution of vision systems. It doesn't even say what genes were involved. And the paper timmy linked to doesn't, either. Complete FAIL I am proud to be a bluffing asshole I challenge timmy to make its case that there is an actual model there with a step-by-step sequence of vision system formation. Or just remain belligerent and prove my point -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,10:29    It is always easy to tell evoTARDs just title hunt to find papers they think support their asinine claims. Horton is a master at such cowardly literature bluffs. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,10:32    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:14)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,08:14)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:16)       Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,10:54) Actual evolution says that vision systems evolved from populations of sightless organisms. That cannot be moiled [sic]. Poor stupid ignorant Joke face plants again.             Quote The 'division of labour' model of eye evolution Arendt et al Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 2009 364, 31 August 2009 Abstract:  The ‘division of labour’ model of eye evolution is elaborated here. We propose that the evolution of complex, multicellular animal eyes started from a single, multi-functional cell type that existed in metazoan ancestors. This ancient cell type had at least three functions: light detection via a photoreceptive organelle, light shading by means of pigment granules and steering through locomotor cilia. Located around the circumference of swimming ciliated zooplankton larvae, these ancient cells were able to mediate phototaxis in the absence of a nervous system. This precursor then diversified, by cell-type functional segregation, into sister cell types that specialized in different subfunctions, evolving into separate photoreceptor cells, shading pigment cells (SPCs) or ciliated locomotor cells. Photoreceptor sensory cells and ciliated locomotor cells remained interconnected by newly evolving axons, giving rise to an early axonal circuit. In some evolutionary lines, residual functions prevailed in the specialized cell types that mirror the ancient multi-functionality, for instance, SPCs expressing an opsin as well as possessing rhabdomer-like microvilli, vestigial cilia and an axon. Functional segregation of cell types in eye evolution also explains the emergence of more elaborate photosensory–motor axonal circuits, with interneurons relaying the visual information. Joke will now attempt to deflect by screaming "that doesn't explain the evolution of eukaryotes!" or "the title doesn't say blind and mindless!"   Joke Gallien, dumbest person on the planet.   Waaaaah!  Waaaah!  I made another dumbass claim and got refuted on it immediately!  Waaaaah! LOL!  Sure called that one didn't I?   Of course predicting Joke Gallien will lie and dodge when caught in a mistake is the world's surest bet.   Joke"  There's no model of eye evolution" OA "Here a published model of eye evolution" Joke "THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE EVERY LAST MUTATION IN EVERY CELL LISTED!!!"     Joke Gallien:  forever a willfully ignorant asshole.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,10:35    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,10:25) I challenge to make its case that there is an actual model there with a step-by-step sequence of vision system formation. Does it have to show the existence of "half an eye" like your dumb YEC claim says evolution needs?           -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,10:52    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,10:04) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2019,09:57) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:37)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,11:13) Frequency OR EQUIVALENTLY wavelength JokeLogic: An Olympic sized swimming pool is 50 meters long OR EQUIVALENTLY 54.7 yards. Therefore meters = yards.   :) You are incorrect. Except underwater where the wavelength is stretched, according to William spearshake.  :D If I said that, then I made an error. Wavelength shortens as it passes from air to water. See how it is done Joke? When someone points out an error, a non-narcissist admits the error and moves on. So, are you sticking to your erroneous claims that wavelength = frequency and that Occam = Reaper?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,15:17    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2019,10:52) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,10:04) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2019,09:57)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:37)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,11:13) Frequency OR EQUIVALENTLY wavelength JokeLogic: An Olympic sized swimming pool is 50 meters long OR EQUIVALENTLY 54.7 yards. Therefore meters = yards.   :) You are incorrect. Except underwater where the wavelength is stretched, according to William spearshake.  :D If I said that, then I made an error. Wavelength shortens as it passes from air to water. You always make errors. It isn't my fault that you are so fucked up that you can't grasp the referenced explanations. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,15:19    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:32) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:14)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,08:14)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:16)         Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,10:54) Actual evolution says that vision systems evolved from populations of sightless organisms. That cannot be moiled [sic]. Poor stupid ignorant Joke face plants again. :)             Quote The 'division of labour' model of eye evolution Arendt et al Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 2009 364, 31 August 2009 Abstract:  The ‘division of labour’ model of eye evolution is elaborated here. We propose that the evolution of complex, multicellular animal eyes started from a single, multi-functional cell type that existed in metazoan ancestors. This ancient cell type had at least three functions: light detection via a photoreceptive organelle, light shading by means of pigment granules and steering through locomotor cilia. Located around the circumference of swimming ciliated zooplankton larvae, these ancient cells were able to mediate phototaxis in the absence of a nervous system. This precursor then diversified, by cell-type functional segregation, into sister cell types that specialized in different subfunctions, evolving into separate photoreceptor cells, shading pigment cells (SPCs) or ciliated locomotor cells. Photoreceptor sensory cells and ciliated locomotor cells remained interconnected by newly evolving axons, giving rise to an early axonal circuit. In some evolutionary lines, residual functions prevailed in the specialized cell types that mirror the ancient multi-functionality, for instance, SPCs expressing an opsin as well as possessing rhabdomer-like microvilli, vestigial cilia and an axon. Functional segregation of cell types in eye evolution also explains the emergence of more elaborate photosensory–motor axonal circuits, with interneurons relaying the visual information. Derp Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass LOL!  Sure called that one didn't I?   Of course predicting Joke Gallien will lie and dodge when caught in a mistake is the world's surest bet.   :D Derp Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass. There isn't any science there. And it is very telling that you can't make your case. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,15:20    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:35) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,10:25) I challenge to make its case that there is an actual model there with a step-by-step sequence of vision system formation. Derp, all I can do is lie like a bitch Clearly timmy is ignorant of science -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,15:28    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,15:19)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:32)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:14)         Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,08:14)             Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:16)               Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,10:54) Actual evolution says that vision systems evolved from populations of sightless organisms. That cannot be moiled [sic]. Poor stupid ignorant Joke face plants again.                   Quote The 'division of labour' model of eye evolution Arendt et al Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 2009 364, 31 August 2009 Abstract:  The ‘division of labour’ model of eye evolution is elaborated here. We propose that the evolution of complex, multicellular animal eyes started from a single, multi-functional cell type that existed in metazoan ancestors. This ancient cell type had at least three functions: light detection via a photoreceptive organelle, light shading by means of pigment granules and steering through locomotor cilia. Located around the circumference of swimming ciliated zooplankton larvae, these ancient cells were able to mediate phototaxis in the absence of a nervous system. This precursor then diversified, by cell-type functional segregation, into sister cell types that specialized in different subfunctions, evolving into separate photoreceptor cells, shading pigment cells (SPCs) or ciliated locomotor cells. Photoreceptor sensory cells and ciliated locomotor cells remained interconnected by newly evolving axons, giving rise to an early axonal circuit. In some evolutionary lines, residual functions prevailed in the specialized cell types that mirror the ancient multi-functionality, for instance, SPCs expressing an opsin as well as possessing rhabdomer-like microvilli, vestigial cilia and an axon. Functional segregation of cell types in eye evolution also explains the emergence of more elaborate photosensory–motor axonal circuits, with interneurons relaying the visual information. Joke will now attempt to deflect by screaming "that doesn't explain the evolution of eukaryotes!" or "the title doesn't say blind and mindless!"   Joke Gallien, dumbest person on the planet.   Waaaaah!  Waaaah!  I made another dumbass claim and got refuted on it immediately!  Waaaaah! LOL!  Sure called that one didn't I?   Of course predicting Joke Gallien will lie and dodge when caught in a mistake is the world's surest bet.   Joke"  There's no model of eye evolution" OA "Here a published model of eye evolution" Joke "THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE EVERY LAST MUTATION IN EVERY CELL LISTED!!!"     Joke Gallien:  forever a willfully ignorant asshole.   Waaaaah!  Waaaaah!  I don't want it to be a model so it's not a model!  Waaaaah!! Joke lies about and dodges the evidence again.  What a surprise.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,15:31    Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,15:20)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:35)     Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,10:25) I challenge to make its case that there is an actual model there with a step-by-step sequence of vision system formation. Does it have to show the existence of "half an eye" like your dumb YEC claim says evolution needs?           Waaaah!  YEC baraminology IS science!  Show me the half an eye!  Show me the crocoduck!  Waaaaah! Joke Gallien continues to be the most pathetic lying Creationist on the planet.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:00    The following is what was said: Frequency = wavelength. A longer wavelength = a lower frequency. The first part was in the context of references discussing the wavelength and references discussing the frequency. Thus, the context was: When one person is talking about GHG emission spectrum in terms of frequencies and another is talking about GHG emission spectrum in terms of wavelength, they are talking about the EXACT SAME thing The second part was to show an understanding of the relationship. The overall context is a BLOG and NOT some technical paper going in for review. An informal discussion. With that in mind, how anal retentive does a THIRD party (not part of the discussion at the time), quote-miner (only includes the first part and never mentions the context) have to be to bring that up years after the fact as if it means something beyond it is an asshole? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:09    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,15:19) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:32) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:14)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,08:14)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2019,23:16)         Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2019,10:54) Actual evolution says that vision systems evolved from populations of sightless organisms. That cannot be moiled [sic]. Derp               Quote The 'division of labour' model of eye evolution Arendt et al Phil. Trans. R. Soc. B 2009 364, 31 August 2009 Abstract:  The ‘division of labour’ model of eye evolution is elaborated here. We propose that the evolution of complex, multicellular animal eyes started from a single, multi-functional cell type that existed in metazoan ancestors. This ancient cell type had at least three functions: light detection via a photoreceptive organelle, light shading by means of pigment granules and steering through locomotor cilia. Located around the circumference of swimming ciliated zooplankton larvae, these ancient cells were able to mediate phototaxis in the absence of a nervous system. This precursor then diversified, by cell-type functional segregation, into sister cell types that specialized in different subfunctions, evolving into separate photoreceptor cells, shading pigment cells (SPCs) or ciliated locomotor cells. Photoreceptor sensory cells and ciliated locomotor cells remained interconnected by newly evolving axons, giving rise to an early axonal circuit. In some evolutionary lines, residual functions prevailed in the specialized cell types that mirror the ancient multi-functionality, for instance, SPCs expressing an opsin as well as possessing rhabdomer-like microvilli, vestigial cilia and an axon. Functional segregation of cell types in eye evolution also explains the emergence of more elaborate photosensory–motor axonal circuits, with interneurons relaying the visual information. Derp Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass :D Derp Derp Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass. There isn't any science there. And it is very telling that you can't make your case. It is very telling that timmy can just post a paper but can't sum it up in its own words to show how it models the evolution of vision systems. But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong and apparently anyone can model the evolution of anything, even a Gryphon. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:12    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,15:31) [quote=Joee G,Dec. 15 2019,15:20]     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,10:35)     Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,10:25) I challenge to make its case that there is an actual model there with a step-by-step sequence of vision system formation. I understand all you have is your belligerence derp Evolutionism says there was an incomplete vision system at one point in time. Before that there wasn't any such system at all. So unless a vision system can evolve in one fell swoop there had to have been percentages of completion. But it's all mot because you cannot produce an organism with a light sensitive cell. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:25    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:12) Evolutionism says there was an incomplete vision system at one point in time. YES!   I knew YEC Joke would keep going with his "What good is half an eye" Creationist stupidity!           Maybe because Joke currently has only half a human brain.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:27    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:09) But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong No surprise Joke is too stupid to know what a scientific model is.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:41    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:25) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:12) Evolutionism says there was an incomplete vision system at one point in time. Before that there wasn't any such system at all. So unless a vision system can evolve in one fell swoop there had to have been percentages of completion. But it's all mot because you cannot produce an organism with a light sensitive cell. YES!   I knew  would keep going with his "What good is half an eye" Except that has nothing to do with half an eye. Clearly you are just a belligerent asshole -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:42    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:27) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:09) Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass. There isn't any science there. And it is very telling that you can't make your case. It is very telling that timmy can just post a paper but can't sum it up in its own words to show how it models the evolution of vision systems. But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong and apparently anyone can model the evolution of anything, even a Gryphon. No surprise Joe is too stupid to know what a scientific model is.   Was that supposed to be an argument? Really? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:47    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:41)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:25)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:12) Evolutionism says there was an incomplete vision system at one point in time. Before that there wasn't any such system at all. So unless a vision system can evolve in one fell swoop there had to have been percentages of completion. But it's all mot because you cannot produce an organism with a light sensitive cell. YES!   I knew Joke would keep going with his "What good is half an eye" Creationist stupidity!           Maybe because Joke currently has only half a human brain.   Except that has nothing to do with half an eye. Not our problem your "Designer" only gave you half a brain Joke.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:50    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:42)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:27)     Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:09) But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong   No surprise Joke is too stupid to know what a scientific model is.   Was that supposed to be an argument? Really? Tell us what constitutes a scientific model in your own words Joke. Now watch Joke fart and bluster and dodge the question.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:55    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:50) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:42)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:27)     Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:09) But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong   No surprise Joke is too stupid to know what a scientific model is.   Was that supposed to be an argument? Really? Derp Umm it is up to YOU to show how YOUR reference fits the definition of a scientific model. Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass. There isn't any science there. And it is very telling that you can't make your case. It is very telling that timmy can just post a paper but can't sum it up in its own words to show how it models the evolution of vision systems. But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong and apparently anyone can model the evolution of anything, even a Gryphon. The last sentence of the bolded part if my summary of the paper you referenced. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:56    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:47) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:41)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:25)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:12) Evolutionism says there was an incomplete vision system at one point in time. Before that there wasn't any such system at all. So unless a vision system can evolve in one fell swoop there had to have been percentages of completion. But it's all mot because you cannot produce an organism with a light sensitive cell. I'm a dumbfuck Except that has nothing to do with half an eye. Derp And obviously you are just a scarecrow- without a brain. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,16:59    Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:55)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:50)       Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:42)           Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:27)           Quote (Joke G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:09) But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong   No surprise Joke is too stupid to know what a scientific model is.   Was that supposed to be an argument? Really? Tell us what constitutes a scientific model in your own words Joke. Now watch Joke fart and bluster and dodge the question.   Umm it is up to YOU to show how YOUR reference fits the definition of a scientific model. Heh.  Joke farts and blusters and dodges the question exactly as predicted.     Joke has no clue what a scientific model is or what it's used for. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,17:00    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:47)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:41)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:25)       Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:12) Evolutionism says there was an incomplete vision system at one point in time. Before that there wasn't any such system at all. So unless a vision system can evolve in one fell swoop there had to have been percentages of completion. But it's all mot because you cannot produce an organism with a light sensitive cell. YES!   I knew Joke would keep going with his "What good is half an eye" Creationist stupidity!           Maybe because Joke currently has only half a human brain.   Except that has nothing to do with half an eye. Not our problem your "Designer" only gave you half a brain Joke.   Poor Joke.  Burned by his Creationist stupidity once again.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,17:02    Umm it is up to YOU to show how YOUR reference fits the definition of a scientific model. Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass. There isn't any science there. And it is very telling that you can't make your case. It is very telling that timmy can just post a paper but can't sum it up in its own words to show how it models the evolution of vision systems. But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong and apparently anyone can model the evolution of anything, even a Gryphon. The last sentence of the bolded part if my summary of the paper you referenced. Clearly timmy doesn't understand what science is -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,17:04    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,17:00) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:47)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:41)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 15 2019,16:25)         Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2019,16:12) Evolutionism says there was an incomplete vision system at one point in time. Before that there wasn't any such system at all. So unless a vision system can evolve in one fell swoop there had to have been percentages of completion. But it's all mot because you cannot produce an organism with a light sensitive cell. YES!   I am too stupid to understand that Except that has nothing to do with half an eye. Not our problem your "Designer" never gave me a brain The scarecrow was much smarter than me ever was. How's Dorothy, scarecrow? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,17:10    Joke:  "There's no model of eye evolution" OA: "Here a published model of eye evolution" Joke: "THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE EVERY LAST MUTATION IN EVERY CELL LISTED!!!"     Joke has no clue what a scientific model is or what it's used for. Joke is so stupid he think evolution must produce "half an eye"   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,17:10    Using timmy's referenced paper as an example, a "scientific model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong and apparently anyone can model the evolution of anything, even a Gryphon. However, I know that is not the definition of a scientific model... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2019,17:11    Umm it is up to YOU to show how YOUR reference fits the definition of a scientific model. Speculation based on the untestable assumption is not a model, dumbass. There isn't any science there. And it is very telling that you can't make your case. It is very telling that timmy can just post a paper but can't sum it up in its own words to show how it models the evolution of vision systems. But if a "model" is just some science sounding narrative, an untested an untestable narrative based solely on imagination, then I am wrong and apparently anyone can model the evolution of anything, even a Gryphon. The last sentence of the bolded part if my summary of the paper you referenced. Clearly timmy doesn't understand what science is -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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