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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2020,16:57   

BatShit is an accurate name.

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Bornagain77
June 14, 2020 at 2:57 pm
Ed George falsely claims that,

“If you firmly believe that there is a God and that Jesus was the physical embodiment of that God, then you are going to filter your observations through that lens, in spite of mountains of contradictory evidence.”

Exactly where are your “mountains of contradictory evidence”? You have none!

Contrary to your false and empty claim, I can actually produce “mountains of contradictory evidence” that your materialistic Darwinian worldview is false and that Theism is true.

1. Naturalism/Materialism predicted space-time energy-matter always existed. Theism predicted space-time energy-matter were created. Big Bang cosmology now strongly indicates that time-space energy-matter had a sudden creation event approximately 14 billion years ago.

2. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that the universe is a self sustaining system that is not dependent on anything else for its continued existence. Theism predicted that God upholds this universe in its continued existence. Breakthroughs in quantum mechanics reveal that this universe is dependent on a ‘non-local’, beyond space and time, cause for its continued existence.

3. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that consciousness is an ‘emergent property’ of material reality and thus should have no particularly special position within material reality. Theism predicts consciousness precedes material reality and therefore, on that presupposition, consciousness should have a ‘special’ position within material reality. Quantum Mechanics reveals that consciousness has a special, even a central, position within material reality. –

4. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the rate at which time passed was constant everywhere in the universe. Theism predicted God is eternal and is outside of time. – Special Relativity has shown that time, as we understand it, is relative and comes to a complete stop at the speed of light. (Psalm 90:4 – 2 Timothy 1:9) –

5. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the universe did not have life in mind and that life was ultimately an accident of time and chance. Theism predicted this universe was purposely created by God with man in mind. Scientists find the universe is exquisitely fine-tuned for carbon-based life to exist in this universe. Moreover it is found, when scrutinizing the details of physics and chemistry, that not only is the universe fine-tuned for carbon based life, but is specifically fine-tuned for life like human life (R. Collins, M. Denton).-

6. Naturalism/Materialism predicted complex life in this universe should be fairly common. Theism predicted the earth is extremely unique in this universe. Statistical analysis of the hundreds of required parameters which enable complex organic life to be possible on earth gives strong indication the earth is extremely unique in this universe (G. Gonzalez; Hugh Ross). –

7. Naturalism/Materialism predicted it took a very long time for life to develop on earth. Theism predicted life to appear abruptly on earth after water appeared on earth (Genesis 1:10-11). Geochemical evidence from the oldest sedimentary rocks ever found on earth indicates that complex photosynthetic life has existed on earth as long as water has been on the face of earth. –

8. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the first life to be relatively simple. Theism predicted that God is the source for all life on earth. The simplest life ever found on Earth is far more complex than any machine man has made through concerted effort. (Michael Denton PhD) –

9. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the gradual unfolding of life would (someday) be self-evident in the fossil record. Theism predicted complex and diverse animal life to appear abruptly in the seas in God’s fifth day of creation. The Cambrian Explosion shows a sudden appearance of many different and completely unique fossils within a very short “geologic resolution time” in the Cambrian seas. –

10. Naturalism/Materialism predicted there should be numerous transitional fossils found in the fossil record, Theism predicted sudden appearance and rapid diversity within different kinds found in the fossil record. Fossils are consistently characterized by sudden appearance of a group/kind in the fossil record(disparity), then rapid diversity within that group/kind, and then long term stability and even deterioration of variety within the overall group/kind, and within the specific species of the kind, over long periods of time. Of the few dozen or so fossils claimed as transitional, not one is uncontested as a true example of transition between major animal forms out of millions of collected fossils. –

11. Naturalism/Materialism predicted animal speciation should happen on a somewhat constant basis on earth. Theism predicted man was the last species created on earth – Man (our genus ‘modern homo’ as distinct from the highly controversial ‘early homo’) is the last generally accepted major fossil form to have suddenly appeared in the fossil record. (Tattersall; Luskin)–

12. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that the separation of human intelligence from animal intelligence ‘is one of degree and not of kind’ (C. Darwin). Theism predicted that we are made in the ‘image of God’- Despite an ‘explosion of research’ in this area over the last four decades, human beings alone are found to ‘mentally dissect the world into a multitude of discrete symbols, and combine and recombine those symbols in their minds to produce hypotheses of alternative possibilities.’ (Tattersall; Schwartz). Moreover, both biological life and the universe itself are found to be ‘information theoretic’ in their foundational basis.

13. Naturalism/Materialism predicted much of the DNA code was junk. Theism predicted we are fearfully and wonderfully made – ENCODE research into the DNA has revealed a “biological jungle deeper, denser, and more difficult to penetrate than anyone imagined.”. –

14. Naturalism/Materialism predicted a extremely beneficial and flexible mutation rate for DNA which was ultimately responsible for all the diversity and complexity of life we see on earth. Theism predicted only God created life on earth – The mutation rate to DNA is overwhelmingly detrimental. Detrimental to such a point that it is seriously questioned whether there are any truly beneficial, information building, mutations whatsoever. (M. Behe; JC Sanford) –

15. Naturalism/Materialism predicted morality is subjective and illusory. Theism predicted morality is objective and real. Morality is found to be deeply embedded in the genetic responses of humans. As well, morality is found to be deeply embedded in the structure of the universe. Embedded to the point of eliciting physiological responses in humans before humans become aware of the morally troubling situation and even prior to the event even happening.

16. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that we are merely our material bodies with no transcendent component to our being, and that we die when our material bodies die. Theism predicted that we have minds/souls that are transcendent of our bodies that live past the death of our material bodies. Transcendent, and ‘conserved’, (cannot be created or destroyed), ‘non-local’, (beyond space-time matter-energy), quantum entanglement/information, which is not reducible to matter-energy space-time, is now found in our material bodies on a massive scale (in every DNA and protein molecule).

Theism compared to Naturalism – Major predictions of each Philosophy – with references
https://docs.google.com/documen....dit

In fact modern science is even very good at pointing us to Christianity as the solution to the much sought after ‘theory of everything’

Specifically, allowing the Agent causality of God ‘back’ into physics, as the Christian founders of modern science originally envisioned,,,, (Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell, and Max Planck, to name a few of the Christian founders),,, and as quantum mechanics itself now empirically demands (with the closing of the free will loophole by Anton Zeilinger and company), rightly allowing the Agent causality of God ‘back’ into physics provides us with a very plausible resolution for the much sought after ‘theory of everything’ in that Christ’s resurrection from the dead provides an empirically backed reconciliation, via the Shroud of Turin, between quantum mechanics and general relativity into the much sought after ‘Theory of Everything”. Here are a few posts where I lay out and defend some of the evidence for that claim:

January 2020
https://uncommondescent.com/intelli....-690569

To give us a small glimpse of the power that was involved in Christ’s resurrection from the dead, the following recent article found that, ”it would take 34 Thousand Billion (Trillion) Watts of VUV radiations to make the image on the shroud. This output of electromagnetic energy remains beyond human technology.”

Astonishing discovery at Christ’s tomb supports Turin Shroud – NOV 26TH 2016
Excerpt: The first attempts made to reproduce the face on the Shroud by radiation, used a CO2 laser which produced an image on a linen fabric that is similar at a macroscopic level. However, microscopic analysis showed a coloring that is too deep and many charred linen threads, features that are incompatible with the Shroud image. Instead, the results of ENEA “show that a short and intense burst of VUV directional radiation can color a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin, including shades of color, the surface color of the fibrils of the outer linen fabric, and the absence of fluorescence”.
‘However, Enea scientists warn, “it should be noted that the total power of VUV radiations required to instantly color the surface of linen that corresponds to a human of average height, body surface area equal to = 2000 MW/cm2 17000 cm2 = 34 thousand billion watts makes it impractical today to reproduce the entire Shroud image using a single laser excimer, since this power cannot be produced by any VUV light source built to date (the most powerful available on the market come to several billion watts )”.
Comment
The ENEA study of the Holy Shroud of Turin concluded that it would take 34 Thousand Billion Watts of VUV radiations to make the image on the shroud. This output of electromagnetic energy remains beyond human technology.
http://westvirginianews.blogsp.....in-is.html/....is.html

Verse:

Colossians 1:15-20
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

   
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2020,04:24   

BS77:

"34 thousand billion watts"

Which would vaporise any burial shroud in its field of view. But of course, that is what miracles require.

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2020,11:05   

Clearly an amateur. Where's all the changes in font, size, and color?

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 15 2020,11:11   

Quote (fnxtr @ June 15 2020,12:05)
Clearly an amateur. Where's all the changes in font, size, and color?

And KF’s asinine graphs?  :p

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2020,13:16   

It’s always great when Joe gives me a reason to post these.





Edited by stevestory on June 16 2020,14:18

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2020,13:23   

Interest in intelligent design is now down to just a handful of scammers and people with mental issues and personality disorders.    :D  :)  :p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2020,14:14   

Quote (stevestory @ June 16 2020,12:23)
Interest in intelligent design is now down to just a handful of scammers and people with mental issues and personality disorders.    :D  :)  :p

What about those who've made a hobby of poking fun at the ID people? Shouldn't they be in a third category? ;)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2020,14:45   

Quote (Henry J @ June 16 2020,14:14)
Quote (stevestory @ June 16 2020,12:23)
Interest in intelligent design is now down to just a handful of scammers and people with mental issues and personality disorders.    :D  :)  :p

What about those who've made a hobby of poking fun at the ID people? Shouldn't they be in a third category? ;)

I may have to find a new hobby. :)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2020,20:03   

Quote (Henry J @ June 16 2020,14:14)
Quote (stevestory @ June 16 2020,12:23)
Interest in intelligent design is now down to just a handful of scammers and people with mental issues and personality disorders.    :D  :)  :p

What about those who've made a hobby of poking fun at the ID people? Shouldn't they be in a third category? ;)

No, I think "people with mental issues and personality disorders" covers it.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2020,21:27   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 16 2020,15:45)
Quote (Henry J @ June 16 2020,14:14)
Quote (stevestory @ June 16 2020,12:23)
Interest in intelligent design is now down to just a handful of scammers and people with mental issues and personality disorders.    :D  :)  :p

What about those who've made a hobby of poking fun at the ID people? Shouldn't they be in a third category? ;)

I may have to find a new hobby. :)

Dembski scammed Barry out of a few bucks. Anybody can see that intelligent design has been a failure. I’m just wondering if those of us poking fun will outlive their blog.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2020,00:18   

Quote (stevestory @ June 16 2020,21:27)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 16 2020,15:45)
Quote (Henry J @ June 16 2020,14:14)
 
Quote (stevestory @ June 16 2020,12:23)
Interest in intelligent design is now down to just a handful of scammers and people with mental issues and personality disorders.    :D  :)  :p

What about those who've made a hobby of poking fun at the ID people? Shouldn't they be in a third category? ;)

I may have to find a new hobby. :)

Dembski scammed Barry out of a few bucks. Anybody can see that intelligent design has been a failure. I’m just wondering if those of us poking fun will outlive their blog.

I guess that depends on how much sane interaction with other humans is required to keep it online.  For all is nastiness, Barry seems capable of functioning in the world.   Denyse probably could, but could she grift enough money off herself?  Is anyone else over there able to do more than have a regular credit card payment?  Even if Gordo or Batshit could hold it together, I can’t imagine it’d be more than a month before one of them went berserk and banned everyone but himself.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,06:00   

Quote (stevestory @ June 14 2020,16:57)
BatShit is an accurate name.

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303
Bornagain77
June 14, 2020 at 2:57 pm
Ed George falsely claims that,

“If you firmly believe that there is a God and that Jesus was the physical embodiment of that God, then you are going to filter your observations through that lens, in spite of mountains of contradictory evidence.”

Exactly where are your “mountains of contradictory evidence”? You have none!

Contrary to your false and empty claim, I can actually produce “mountains of contradictory evidence” that your materialistic Darwinian worldview is false and that Theism is true.

1. Naturalism/Materialism predicted space-time energy-matter always existed. Theism predicted space-time energy-matter were created. Big Bang cosmology now strongly indicates that time-space energy-matter had a sudden creation event approximately 14 billion years ago.

2. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that the universe is a self sustaining system that is not dependent on anything else for its continued existence. Theism predicted that God upholds this universe in its continued existence. Breakthroughs in quantum mechanics reveal that this universe is dependent on a ‘non-local’, beyond space and time, cause for its continued existence.

3. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that consciousness is an ‘emergent property’ of material reality and thus should have no particularly special position within material reality. Theism predicts consciousness precedes material reality and therefore, on that presupposition, consciousness should have a ‘special’ position within material reality. Quantum Mechanics reveals that consciousness has a special, even a central, position within material reality. –

4. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the rate at which time passed was constant everywhere in the universe. Theism predicted God is eternal and is outside of time. – Special Relativity has shown that time, as we understand it, is relative and comes to a complete stop at the speed of light. (Psalm 90:4 – 2 Timothy 1:9) –

5. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the universe did not have life in mind and that life was ultimately an accident of time and chance. Theism predicted this universe was purposely created by God with man in mind. Scientists find the universe is exquisitely fine-tuned for carbon-based life to exist in this universe. Moreover it is found, when scrutinizing the details of physics and chemistry, that not only is the universe fine-tuned for carbon based life, but is specifically fine-tuned for life like human life (R. Collins, M. Denton).-

6. Naturalism/Materialism predicted complex life in this universe should be fairly common. Theism predicted the earth is extremely unique in this universe. Statistical analysis of the hundreds of required parameters which enable complex organic life to be possible on earth gives strong indication the earth is extremely unique in this universe (G. Gonzalez; Hugh Ross). –

7. Naturalism/Materialism predicted it took a very long time for life to develop on earth. Theism predicted life to appear abruptly on earth after water appeared on earth (Genesis 1:10-11). Geochemical evidence from the oldest sedimentary rocks ever found on earth indicates that complex photosynthetic life has existed on earth as long as water has been on the face of earth. –

8. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the first life to be relatively simple. Theism predicted that God is the source for all life on earth. The simplest life ever found on Earth is far more complex than any machine man has made through concerted effort. (Michael Denton PhD) –

9. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the gradual unfolding of life would (someday) be self-evident in the fossil record. Theism predicted complex and diverse animal life to appear abruptly in the seas in God’s fifth day of creation. The Cambrian Explosion shows a sudden appearance of many different and completely unique fossils within a very short “geologic resolution time” in the Cambrian seas. –

10. Naturalism/Materialism predicted there should be numerous transitional fossils found in the fossil record, Theism predicted sudden appearance and rapid diversity within different kinds found in the fossil record. Fossils are consistently characterized by sudden appearance of a group/kind in the fossil record(disparity), then rapid diversity within that group/kind, and then long term stability and even deterioration of variety within the overall group/kind, and within the specific species of the kind, over long periods of time. Of the few dozen or so fossils claimed as transitional, not one is uncontested as a true example of transition between major animal forms out of millions of collected fossils. –

11. Naturalism/Materialism predicted animal speciation should happen on a somewhat constant basis on earth. Theism predicted man was the last species created on earth – Man (our genus ‘modern homo’ as distinct from the highly controversial ‘early homo’) is the last generally accepted major fossil form to have suddenly appeared in the fossil record. (Tattersall; Luskin)–

12. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that the separation of human intelligence from animal intelligence ‘is one of degree and not of kind’ (C. Darwin). Theism predicted that we are made in the ‘image of God’- Despite an ‘explosion of research’ in this area over the last four decades, human beings alone are found to ‘mentally dissect the world into a multitude of discrete symbols, and combine and recombine those symbols in their minds to produce hypotheses of alternative possibilities.’ (Tattersall; Schwartz). Moreover, both biological life and the universe itself are found to be ‘information theoretic’ in their foundational basis.

13. Naturalism/Materialism predicted much of the DNA code was junk. Theism predicted we are fearfully and wonderfully made – ENCODE research into the DNA has revealed a “biological jungle deeper, denser, and more difficult to penetrate than anyone imagined.”. –

14. Naturalism/Materialism predicted a extremely beneficial and flexible mutation rate for DNA which was ultimately responsible for all the diversity and complexity of life we see on earth. Theism predicted only God created life on earth – The mutation rate to DNA is overwhelmingly detrimental. Detrimental to such a point that it is seriously questioned whether there are any truly beneficial, information building, mutations whatsoever. (M. Behe; JC Sanford) –

15. Naturalism/Materialism predicted morality is subjective and illusory. Theism predicted morality is objective and real. Morality is found to be deeply embedded in the genetic responses of humans. As well, morality is found to be deeply embedded in the structure of the universe. Embedded to the point of eliciting physiological responses in humans before humans become aware of the morally troubling situation and even prior to the event even happening.

16. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that we are merely our material bodies with no transcendent component to our being, and that we die when our material bodies die. Theism predicted that we have minds/souls that are transcendent of our bodies that live past the death of our material bodies. Transcendent, and ‘conserved’, (cannot be created or destroyed), ‘non-local’, (beyond space-time matter-energy), quantum entanglement/information, which is not reducible to matter-energy space-time, is now found in our material bodies on a massive scale (in every DNA and protein molecule).

Theism compared to Naturalism – Major predictions of each Philosophy – with references
https://docs.google.com/documen........dit

In fact modern science is even very good at pointing us to Christianity as the solution to the much sought after ‘theory of everything’

Specifically, allowing the Agent causality of God ‘back’ into physics, as the Christian founders of modern science originally envisioned,,,, (Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell, and Max Planck, to name a few of the Christian founders),,, and as quantum mechanics itself now empirically demands (with the closing of the free will loophole by Anton Zeilinger and company), rightly allowing the Agent causality of God ‘back’ into physics provides us with a very plausible resolution for the much sought after ‘theory of everything’ in that Christ’s resurrection from the dead provides an empirically backed reconciliation, via the Shroud of Turin, between quantum mechanics and general relativity into the much sought after ‘Theory of Everything”. Here are a few posts where I lay out and defend some of the evidence for that claim:

January 2020
https://uncommondescent.com/intelli....-690569

To give us a small glimpse of the power that was involved in Christ’s resurrection from the dead, the following recent article found that, ”it would take 34 Thousand Billion (Trillion) Watts of VUV radiations to make the image on the shroud. This output of electromagnetic energy remains beyond human technology.”

Astonishing discovery at Christ’s tomb supports Turin Shroud – NOV 26TH 2016
Excerpt: The first attempts made to reproduce the face on the Shroud by radiation, used a CO2 laser which produced an image on a linen fabric that is similar at a macroscopic level. However, microscopic analysis showed a coloring that is too deep and many charred linen threads, features that are incompatible with the Shroud image. Instead, the results of ENEA “show that a short and intense burst of VUV directional radiation can color a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin, including shades of color, the surface color of the fibrils of the outer linen fabric, and the absence of fluorescence”.
‘However, Enea scientists warn, “it should be noted that the total power of VUV radiations required to instantly color the surface of linen that corresponds to a human of average height, body surface area equal to = 2000 MW/cm2 17000 cm2 = 34 thousand billion watts makes it impractical today to reproduce the entire Shroud image using a single laser excimer, since this power cannot be produced by any VUV light source built to date (the most powerful available on the market come to several billion watts )”.
Comment
The ENEA study of the Holy Shroud of Turin concluded that it would take 34 Thousand Billion Watts of VUV radiations to make the image on the shroud. This output of electromagnetic energy remains beyond human technology.
http://westvirginianews.blogsp.....in-is.html/....is.....is.html

Verse:

Colossians 1:15-20
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

I assume you post things like that unread.

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- William Dembski -

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,06:29   

Quote (sparc @ June 19 2020,07:00)
I assume you post things like that unread.

Nobody reads Philip’s brain-damaged babbling.  :p

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,06:32   

It is funny though that you’ve got people over there trying to pretend that they are not creationists and BatShit77  can’t get through a post without adding Bible verses.  :p  :)  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,12:25   

Barry at his homophobic best.
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  A man is not a woman, and anyone who says or implies otherwise is a liar.

On June 15, 2020, this lie prevailed in the Supreme Court of the United States of America. This lie is now the law, and it will be enforced with all of the terrible power of the government....

This day I vow to defy this lie that has become law. I will never participate in the lie. I will never say a man is a woman, and I will never imply it by using feminine pronouns to refer to him. I call on you to join me. And if you refuse?

Quickly followed by Mullings.
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BA, I stand with you. To impose lies and linked oppression under false colour of law with the lurking threat that one may not buy nor sell save s/he take the deadly mark of evil, is outright demonic and misanthropic. I will not violate truth, reason nor sound conscience, period. That it has clearly come to such is an all too telling sign of our times. GEM of TKI

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,13:32   

Barry has had it with your lies! Men aren’t women!

Seriously what an A hole. Go sue some more gay people Barry.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,14:04   

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June 19, 2020 at 12:01 pm
I have not said I intend to discriminate against anyone, including so called transgender people. I did not say that the SCOTUS decision itself will require me to misapply pronouns. But that is coming and it is already here. As I have reported before, a teacher in West Point, VA was fired on this very ground. He is suffering for the sake of his soul, just as Solzhenitsyn said.

My post is a preemptive declaration. It is none of my business, Ed George, what these people do. They can live their lie as much as they want. The government will even force their employers to treat their lie as true. But the government cannot compel me to speak in a way that violates my conscience. And if it tries to, I will defy it.
Yes, a guy who insisted on being an asshole is exactly like Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

linky

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,14:06   

We know Gordon’s elderly, but did anyone find out how old he is? 80? 90? How much longer will the world have to suffer him?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2020,14:33   

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We know Gordon’s elderly, but did anyone find out how old he is? 80? 90? How much longer will the world have to suffer him?

... and will anyone miss him when he's gone.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2020,03:56   

Quote (fnxtr @ June 19 2020,14:33)
 
Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2020,12:06)
We know Gordon’s elderly, but did anyone find out how old he is? 80? 90? How much longer will the world have to suffer him?

... and will anyone miss him when he's gone.

Does UD have to pay for its storage? If it does, the hosting company must like KF's (and BA77's) posts.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2020,07:45   

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June 20, 2020 at 1:38 am
EG, you have long since forfeited any right to simple answers through use of loaded, manipulative argument. You have repeatedly argued in bad faith for a long time, now face the consequences. You read the above for yourself and recognise the implications of hidden agendas in the hands of ruthless misanthropes and enemies of not just our civilisation but civilisation. Once the abolish the police threshold was passed, the Rubicon was irrevocably crossed. KF
Everything’s the goddamn end of the world with this idiot.  :p

linky

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2020,12:46   

Quote (stevestory @ June 20 2020,07:45)
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Kairosfocus
June 20, 2020 at 1:38 am
EG, you have long since forfeited any right to simple answers through use of loaded, manipulative argument. You have repeatedly argued in bad faith for a long time, now face the consequences. You read the above for yourself and recognise the implications of hidden agendas in the hands of ruthless misanthropes and enemies of not just our civilisation but civilisation. Once the abolish the police threshold was passed, the Rubicon was irrevocably crossed. KF
Everything’s the goddamn end of the world with this idiot.  :p

linky

If kf had the ability to step back and think about what he says for just a moment, one wonders if he’d notice how many times he thinks the Rubicon has been irrevocably crossed.  How many times do you have to start the end before it’s just the end?

Also, did he just admit he’s writing that way to punish people?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2020,16:49   

Is anybody going to watch the Super Spreader event tonight?  It may be history in the making.  

8 PM Eastern

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2020,17:16   

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Is anybody going to watch the Super Spreader event tonight?  It may be history in the making.  

8 PM Eastern

I suppose I will.

   
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2020,18:31   

Well, I watched the whole thing.  Quite a genius, President Trump.  Spend 15 minutes explaining his problems walking down a ramp, then he drank a glass of water one handed.  What a man!  Someone should explain "Streisand Effect" to him, though.

But nothing compares to his brilliant campaign strategy of getting all of his followers into intimate contact and then infecting them.  Sheer brilliance!  I'll bet none of those campaign experts thought of that!

Too bad about the crowds, but 9,000 people in a 19,000 seat venue is only one measly order of magnitude short, but watch the Fake News media make a big thing of it.

Yessir, I know how I'm voting this fall.

We now return you to Tard Talk.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 22 2020,03:12   

BobRyan History 100
   
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No statue should be torn down. They show people and symbols of history, both good and bad. If history were taught, instead of the propaganda filled textbooks, people would know why the Fire Eaters were. The Fire Eaters should have a memorial to remind us of those who opposed the United States almost from the very beginning. They were a powerful group of people who had been trying to bring about their own country for a great many years. They were instrumental in the Amistad case, just as they were instrumental in guaranteeing Lincoln won the presidency. They had the southern Democrats support a different candidate than the northern Democrats to ensure the vote was split, since they wanted to be free of Jeffersonian democracy, which they hated.

It's like he read every third word of a high school history book.
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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2020,10:24   

Hello all you church-burnin' ebola boys! Great to see you still committed to the Good Work.

As I recall, you were all very meticulous about wearing full haz-mat when checking out UD, so I won't give superfluous advice about masks.

Carry on.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2020,12:45   

Quote (Amadan @ June 23 2020,08:24)
Hello all you church-burnin' ebola boys! Great to see you still committed to the Good Work.

As I recall, you were all very meticulous about wearing full haz-mat when checking out UD, so I won't give superfluous advice about masks.

Carry on.

welcome back.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2020,19:32   

StephenB, who claims not to be a misogynist:
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However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues. This makes him a moral failure.

  
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2020,02:56   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ June 23 2020,19:32)
StephenB, who claims not to be a misogynist:
 
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However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues. This makes him a moral failure.

Sojourner Truth
Florence Nightingale
Susan B Anthony
Alexandra Kollontai
Emmeline Pankhurst
Emma Goldman
Rosa Luxemburg
Rosa Parks
Dolores Ibarruri
Constance Markowitz
Phulan Devi

There seem to be quite a lot of women who would not have hesitated to tell StephenB to go and do the washing-up.

  
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