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Posted by: Lethean on April 10 2018,09:35

It seems that Robert, having conquered biology without breaking much of a sweat, has taken on physics. Apparently Einstein's work actually supports RECENT CREATION and none of that evolving crap.

   

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RECENT CREATION might indeed be a better term then young earth. it might be a new term to rally around and be defined by.
People complained about the YEC moniker.
i have recently been reading, for the third time and still only understanding a third/to a half of it, Einsteins book on physics.
i found in it plenty of opportunity to correct ideas to the advantage of YEC.
the light distance issues and generally how things can be squeezed down into simple equations.
This works for a creation week concept and not a evolving physics universe.
In fact the whole physics things suggests, by probability, that biology also has more basic equations to its origins and relationships. nOt evolving but instead hard and fast laws at a certain stage. Then the seeming as if having a mind of its own.

By the way and by now. It should be a understood equation that yEC teaches the bible is true and so other options are not. Not reality but rather humans incompetent investigation into reality.
Science is the friend of truth and ruth is YEC friend. SO science is UEC friend. WE don't disagree with our friend but with others innaccurate portrayal of our friends conclusions.
Thats no April's fool trick either!
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< This is not a April fool story >

(It's still difficult to visit PT. With the new format and loss of all the old discussion it's like someone shot a friend.)
Posted by: stevestory on April 10 2018,09:37

Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:35)
It seems that Robert, having conquered biology without breaking much of a sweat, has taken on physics. Apparently Einstein's work actually supports RECENT CREATION and none of that evolving crap.

   

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RECENT CREATION might indeed be a better term then young earth. it might be a new term to rally around and be defined by.
People complained about the YEC moniker.
i have recently been reading, for the third time and still only understanding a third/to a half of it, Einsteins book on physics.
i found in it plenty of opportunity to correct ideas to the advantage of YEC.
the light distance issues and generally how things can be squeezed down into simple equations.
This works for a creation week concept and not a evolving physics universe.
In fact the whole physics things suggests, by probability, that biology also has more basic equations to its origins and relationships. nOt evolving but instead hard and fast laws at a certain stage. Then the seeming as if having a mind of its own.

By the way and by now. It should be a understood equation that yEC teaches the bible is true and so other options are not. Not reality but rather humans incompetent investigation into reality.
Science is the friend of truth and ruth is YEC friend. SO science is UEC friend. WE don't disagree with our friend but with others innaccurate portrayal of our friends conclusions.
Thats no April's fool trick either!
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< This is not a April fool story >

(It's still difficult to visit PT. With the new format and loss of all the old discussion it's like someone shot a friend. Also, Discus licks my left nugget.)
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I have an undergrad degree in physics and I have no idea what he is babbling about.
Posted by: Lethean on April 10 2018,09:48

The previous quote was browsing followup to Robert's post on the Sandwalk DK thread. This was fresh on my mind having recently seen it in the original and then Wells quote over in the UD thread ....

   
Quote (N.Wells @ Mar. 23 2018,18:00)
My apologies if I missed a mention of this, but there is an absolutely precious bit of prose over at Larry Moran's Sandwalk, at < http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2018.......9312735 > :

Larry posted an essay on the Dunning-Kruger effect, and the infamous Robert Byers immediately pontificated:

     

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I agree with this whole concept. i think about it in origin issues and other issues of mankind.
Yet i don't think its complicated.

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Less intelligent people are more sure complicated things are easy to understand and less able to see errors and errors in their own thinking.
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One could stop right there and have sufficient cause to smile for a week.

But he continues in a second post:

     

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I know enough and quite a lot about the main points of evoltionary biology. i learn things , great and small, like learning from this blog about random drift being a prioriity/or important in evolution as opposed to histircial conclusions on natural selection alone working on mutations. That would not be in the public domaine and so i know more then the average educated public.
I also know YEC/ID ideass which brings in more awareness of evolutionary ideas.

I deny I lecture experts. Nobody wants that tag.
Whats an expert? where is the experts?
a expert is just someone with knowledge in their subject and a complete knowledge.
anyone can master the conclusions from experts as they write them down.
so anyone can think about them and take them on.
i address only certain conclusions and yES am intellectually confident .
No excuse for thinking i know my tuff and can correct error.
Your thread was about people in thev weong more likely to be slow to correct their error or recognize it.
one could also be in the right and more likely know they are in the right after dealing with contentions for a long time.
its a curve on intelligence.
Its more then knowing the subject.
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I couldn't write a better parody if I tried.
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Truly, Robert is by far my favorite creationist.
Posted by: Jim_Wynne on April 10 2018,10:29

Quote (stevestory @ April 10 2018,09:37)
Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:35)
It seems that Robert, having conquered biology without breaking much of a sweat, has taken on physics. Apparently Einstein's work actually supports RECENT CREATION and none of that evolving crap.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
RECENT CREATION might indeed be a better term then young earth. it might be a new term to rally around and be defined by.
People complained about the YEC moniker.
i have recently been reading, for the third time and still only understanding a third/to a half of it, Einsteins book on physics.
i found in it plenty of opportunity to correct ideas to the advantage of YEC.
the light distance issues and generally how things can be squeezed down into simple equations.
This works for a creation week concept and not a evolving physics universe.
In fact the whole physics things suggests, by probability, that biology also has more basic equations to its origins and relationships. nOt evolving but instead hard and fast laws at a certain stage. Then the seeming as if having a mind of its own.

By the way and by now. It should be a understood equation that yEC teaches the bible is true and so other options are not. Not reality but rather humans incompetent investigation into reality.
Science is the friend of truth and ruth is YEC friend. SO science is UEC friend. WE don't disagree with our friend but with others innaccurate portrayal of our friends conclusions.
Thats no April's fool trick either!
---------------------QUOTE-------------------




< This is not a April fool story >

(It's still difficult to visit PT. With the new format and loss of all the old discussion it's like someone shot a friend. Also, Discus licks my left nugget.)
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I have an undergrad degree in physics and I have no idea what he is babbling about.
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The only thing you need to know is that ruth is YEC friend.
Posted by: stevestory on April 10 2018,10:35

Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:48)
Truly, Robert is by far my favorite creationist.
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He's mentally defective, but not in the hateful way so many of those dimwits are.
Posted by: Texas Teach on April 10 2018,16:04



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i have recently been reading, for the third time and still only understanding a third/to a half of it, Einsteins book on physics.
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I think we can safely say this overestimates the situation.
Posted by: JohnW on April 10 2018,16:10

Quote (stevestory @ April 10 2018,08:35)
Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:48)
Truly, Robert is by far my favorite creationist.
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He's mentally defective, but not in the hateful way so many of those dimwits are.
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I don't have any links to hand, but he's a full-on racist.
Posted by: Occam's Aftershave on April 10 2018,16:31

Quote (JohnW @ April 10 2018,16:10)
Quote (stevestory @ April 10 2018,08:35)
 
Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:48)
Truly, Robert is by far my favorite creationist.
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He's mentally defective, but not in the hateful way so many of those dimwits are.
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I don't have any links to hand, but he's a full-on racist.
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He's also a full on misogynist.    :O
Posted by: Texas Teach on April 10 2018,16:35

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 10 2018,16:31)
Quote (JohnW @ April 10 2018,16:10)
 
Quote (stevestory @ April 10 2018,08:35)
 
Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:48)
Truly, Robert is by far my favorite creationist.
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He's mentally defective, but not in the hateful way so many of those dimwits are.
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I don't have any links to hand, but he's a full-on racist.
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He's also a full on misogynist.    :O
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But aside from that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
Posted by: stevestory on April 10 2018,17:10

Quote (JohnW @ April 10 2018,17:10)
Quote (stevestory @ April 10 2018,08:35)
Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:48)
Truly, Robert is by far my favorite creationist.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


He's mentally defective, but not in the hateful way so many of those dimwits are.
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I don't have any links to hand, but he's a full-on racist.
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You're right, I forgot about that. I amend my comment to something like, "He's not blatantly, ostentatiously hateful."
Posted by: Lethean on April 10 2018,17:41

Quote (stevestory @ April 10 2018,17:10)
 
Quote (JohnW @ April 10 2018,17:10)
   
Quote (stevestory @ April 10 2018,08:35)
   
Quote (Lethean @ April 10 2018,10:48)
Truly, Robert is by far my favorite creationist.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


He's mentally defective, but not in the hateful way so many of those dimwits are.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I don't have any links to hand, but he's a full-on racist.
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You're right, I forgot about that. I amend my comment to something like, "He's not blatantly, ostentatiously hateful."
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Yeah, I had pretty much forgotten those comments too. It's easy to do, what with his happy go lucky presentation in the face of getting slammed pretty hard with the criticism. Even when he's been outright teased the guy doesn't seem capable of delivering an once of anger.

So he reminds me of a puppy. Little to no bark, tail mostly on wag, occasionally soiling the carpet but difficult to be mad at him 'cause he's a puppy.
Posted by: ChemiCat on April 13 2018,08:36

Iv'e had an idea for a comedy show.

Working title; "The Big Dumb Theory"

Starring Gaulin in a shared apartment with Joke Galien and R Byers.

Would you watch it?
Posted by: stevestory on April 13 2018,09:06

I'm sure it would be taken off the air, after the advertisers fled, after mental health organizations strongly denounced it as disgustingly exploitative and regressive.
Posted by: Henry J on April 13 2018,11:30

Not to mention what would happen when those roommates got mad at each other...
Posted by: JohnW on April 13 2018,11:44

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Not to mention what would happen when those roommates got mad at each other...
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Gary would run off to his basement.  
Byers would grab his sign and go hand out tracts on a street corner.  
Joe would wait until they were safely out of earshot, then brag about how he would beat them in a fight.
Posted by: k.e.. on April 13 2018,20:13

There's no shortage of material for a script.

But I suspect the potential target audience would think such a show would be far too much of a documentary rather than comedy.

Plus Gary would look down the camera lens when he's supposed to be talking to Joe. Joe would scream COCKFACE to the director for no reason. Robert would want the bathrooms segregated. There'd be constant arguments over who got to sign the most autographs after each show.
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