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|That doesn't follow. However evolutionary biologists do call them errors and mistakes- copying errors, as in the copy is not the same as the thing being copied because of an error or mistake in the process.|
Yes science writers sometimes refer to imperfect genetic copying as "errors or mistakes" as a simplified first order approximation to explain the concept to laymen. The reality is genetic copying is not expected to occur with 100% fidelity every time so new mutations cannot be "errors or mistakes" which would imply 100% fidelity was expected. New mutations are simply variations which naturally occur in the process.
Evolutionary biologists aren't just science writers, dipshit. Evolutionary biologists refer to them as errors or mistakes in textbooks and peer-reviewed articles.
And yes, we now know that genetic copying is not expected to occur with 100% fidelity because we know that errors and mistakes happen. Proof-reading and error correction takes care of many of them- strange that there is a proof-reading and error-correction mechanism. Their existence proves that timmy is an ignorant ass.
"It ain't no error correction. The experts don't know nuthin'"
And fuck your cowardly equivocation. with respect to "natural". Things that are artificial are still natural because they exist in nature. The entire debate is whether or not they are spontaneous- as in accidents, errors and mistakes.
As simplified anthropomorphic terms to help explain the concept dipshit.
if your "Design" claims are correct then these variations can't be "errors or mistakes" because they were DESIGNED to happen.
Look, moron, just because we expect them to happen does NO mean they cannot be errors or mistakes. The literature is clear that they are errors and mistakes.
There is a proof-reading process and an error-correction process. It proof-reads because it is expecting something. It corrects the error when the expectation isn't met.
And as I have told you many, many times, ID does say that mutations are designed to happen but that errors and mistakes still creep in.
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t
simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW
"Genetic mutations are mistakes"- evolutionary biology
"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"- Intelligent Design and Timothy Horton