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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2008,12:49   



Whole buncha stuff with nothing whatever to do with Young Cosmos.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 04 2008,12:58   

Swivel unicorns?

Never mind...

Anyway, Sal has shown his class again.  But it is a politician he's being ungenerous to, so I'm not sure it counts:

http://www.youngcosmos.com/blog/archives/173
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That said, at least for now, it appears that we won’t have to worry about having the anti-Christ for President.


All this time I've been thinking that Galapagos Finch was wMad.  But perhaps it's Sal.

Bob

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2008,07:27   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 04 2008,13:58)
Swivel unicorns?

Never mind...

Anyway, Sal has shown his class again.  But it is a politician he's being ungenerous to, so I'm not sure it counts:

http://www.youngcosmos.com/blog/archives/173
 
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That said, at least for now, it appears that we won’t have to worry about having the anti-Christ for President.


All this time I've been thinking that Galapagos Finch was wMad.  But perhaps it's Sal.

Bob

Well Sal did say he was going to quit using his own name when he posts his tard publicly.

Of course, Young Cosmos throws that right out the window, so I'm not sure what the point would be.

ETA:  Oh right.  Sal.  Nevermind.

Edited by Lou FCD on Jan. 05 2008,08:27

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2008,18:21   

Sal continues the waaaah Baylor theme at YC (I won't link to it, cause he doesn't deserve it. Instead I'll quote mine him, just because he loves it so.
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For example, I shouldn’t have to worry about studying engineering or physics because I reject Darwinism, but the forces enforcing political correctness cost me and other grad students an opportunity at Baylor when they shut down distinguished professor Robert Mark’s evolutionary informatics lab. All told, the Darwinists cost me (and if not me, another grad student) $40,000 in tuition and stipends.

Two quick points.

1) Since Sal is currently allegedly studying "engineering or physics" at a much better institution than Baylor, he should be thanking the evil darwinismus rather than blaming them.

2) AFAIK, Mark's lab is still running. The controversy was over a web server. If Marks wanted Sal to be there, he could still have him. One can only hope that this is a sign of sanity on Marks' part.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2008,20:36   

One wonders how much his current advisors knew of his character and internet shenanigans.  It would be hard to get me excited about a candidate student with that much... how-you-say-.. flambuoyancy?  Especially since he thinks that the earth is you know still under warranty it's so fresh and that if someone one the ark didn't have herpes, then the sacrifice of Christ wouldnt make sense and there'd be no atonement, so it must therefore be true that the Bible is the Ward of Gawd and ignorance is strength.  

mebbe he's cracking up.  but what is the reference for such a diagnosis.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2008,21:00   

Erasmus,

Sal's not a Ph. D. candidate.  He is taking evening classes towards a master's degree in physics:
My retreat from the public view….

No word yet on future plans.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2008,22:27   

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Erasmus,

Sal's not a Ph. D. candidate.  He is taking evening classes towards a master's degree in physics:
My retreat from the public view….

No word yet on future plans.

He's going to overthrow....













....reality.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2008,23:25   

Sal:    
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Well, let me tell you Jeff Shallit, I’m an ID proponent and I’m not a creationist in a cheap tuxedo because my tuxedo costs lots of money.
Argueing that Sal isn't a creationist because he spent too much money to dress up follows the same logic as The Emperor's new Clothes.



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 05 2008,23:56   

Due to the way Sal talks about his appearnce in Nature I am pretty sure he bought the tuxedo to be prepared for a phone call from Stockholm. However, as reported on the CRWU pages laureates are not stupid and only buy a piece of clothing that you can not really use at other occasions after receiving the phone call:
     
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In 1954, Frederick Robbins entered Bunce Bros. men's store on Shaker Square in search of a black tuxedo to buy. The young salesman who waited on his was startled, since someone actually buying a tuxedo was exceedingly rare. "What did you do, win the Nobel Prize?" the salesman cracked irreverently. As a matter of fact, he had. Robbins informed the salesman that he was going to Stockholm for the ceremony. After a moment of stunned silence, the salesman removed his foot from his mouth and found Robbins a fine tuxedo to take along on the Queen Elizabeth into the annals of medical history.
(emphasis added)

BTW, a friend of mine who worked at the Karolinska Institute and and once was invited to join the ceremony told me that nobody there would buy a tuxedo because it's much cheaper to rent one.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,02:01   

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1) Since Sal is currently allegedly studying "engineering or physics" at a much better institution than Baylor, he should be thanking the evil darwinismus rather than blaming them.

2) AFAIK, Mark's lab is still running. The controversy was over a web server. If Marks wanted Sal to be there, he could still have him. One can only hope that this is a sign of sanity on Marks' part.

3) It was Sal who declined the offer/possibility to work at Baylor.  It's not clear to me what Marks' position on Sal is.  So, the forces of Darwinism only cost Baylor the chance to educate a posturing coward.

Bob

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,02:29   

Quote (sparc @ Jan. 06 2008,00:56)
Due to the way Sal talks about his appearnce in Nature I am pretty sure he bought the tuxedo to be prepared for a phone call from Stockholm. However, as reported on the CRWU pages laureates are not stupid and only buy a piece of clothing that you can not really use at other occasions after receiving the phone call:
       
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In 1954, Frederick Robbins entered Bunce Bros. men's store on Shaker Square in search of a black tuxedo to buy. The young salesman who waited on his was startled, since someone actually buying a tuxedo was exceedingly rare. "What did you do, win the Nobel Prize?" the salesman cracked irreverently. As a matter of fact, he had. Robbins informed the salesman that he was going to Stockholm for the ceremony. After a moment of stunned silence, the salesman removed his foot from his mouth and found Robbins a fine tuxedo to take along on the Queen Elizabeth into the annals of medical history.
(emphasis added)

BTW, a friend of mine who worked at the Karolinska Institute and and once was invited to join the ceremony told me that nobody there would buy a tuxedo because it's much cheaper to rent one.

You've gotta dress according to the situation.

When I'm in Ri-O
And I'm walkin' on the beach
I'm in my Speed-O...


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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,02:34   

Oh I dunno.  The Nobel is pretty special.  I'd be tempted to buy a tux and keep it as a souvenir.  I'd probably also steal some silverware.  Maybe a centerpiece from the table, depending on the size of my pockets.

:p

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,02:42   

It's probably kind of like the US presidency, where everything is embossed and labelled down to the ashtrays and on your way out the door you steal everything you can that isn't nailed down or protected by guys with Uzis and sunglasses.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,05:22   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 06 2008,02:01)
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1) Since Sal is currently allegedly studying "engineering or physics" at a much better institution than Baylor, he should be thanking the evil darwinismus rather than blaming them.

2) AFAIK, Mark's lab is still running. The controversy was over a web server. If Marks wanted Sal to be there, he could still have him. One can only hope that this is a sign of sanity on Marks' part.

3) It was Sal who declined the offer/possibility to work at Baylor.  It's not clear to me what Marks' position on Sal is.  So, the forces of Darwinism only cost Baylor the chance to educate a posturing coward.

Bob

IIRC Sal's "expelled" story of persecution had it slightly differently. IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.

It's here somewhere
http://www.expelledthemovie.com/

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,07:10   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 06 2008,06:22)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 06 2008,02:01)
 
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1) Since Sal is currently allegedly studying "engineering or physics" at a much better institution than Baylor, he should be thanking the evil darwinismus rather than blaming them.

2) AFAIK, Mark's lab is still running. The controversy was over a web server. If Marks wanted Sal to be there, he could still have him. One can only hope that this is a sign of sanity on Marks' part.

3) It was Sal who declined the offer/possibility to work at Baylor.  It's not clear to me what Marks' position on Sal is.  So, the forces of Darwinism only cost Baylor the chance to educate a posturing coward.

Bob

IIRC Sal's "expelled" story of persecution had it slightly differently. IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.

It's here somewhere
http://www.expelledthemovie.com/

Holy Crap!  First the Darwinistas prevent the IDCH people from publishing in their own journals, now they're preventing them from hiring Sal in their own labs????//??questionmarkqueestionmark???

That's some serious power, baby!  Who do I have to sleep with to get me a place at the table?  I want to work on stopping them from speaking in churches.  Y'know, make 'em be silent like the weemins.

ETA: Oh, plus I want to help take the Christ out of Christmas and force people to say "Happy Holidays".

Edited by Lou FCD on Jan. 06 2008,08:12

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,07:14   

Got it.

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/shoutout_text.php?story=73
 
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$40,000 tuition and salary
Added by: Salvador, on 2007-10-31 09:33:52

In the Spring and Summer of 2007, Dr. Robert Marks of Baylor University offered me 2 years tuition and a small salary to work as his research assistant in the Evolutionary Informatics Lab.

The research at the lab would have overturned the false and misleading computer simulations used by Darwinists to win a major court case against ID proponents (Dover). I would have drawn a small salary and had my tuition paid to get a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering. All told, the offer amounted to about $40,000.

The Informatics Lab was shut down in August by the Darwinists at Baylor when it was evident the scientific research would put certain Darwinist organizations around the country out of business and into disrepute.  With the lab shutting down, so went my offer. Prior to this episode, I was a GMU student. I graduated with 3 degrees in scientific disciplines from GMU. At GMU, I was at Dr. Caroline Crocker's side in 2005 when the reporter from the prestigious scientific journal, Nature, interviewed us for a major story about ID on the college campuses. I knew that day would be the end of her career. Our story was told in the April 28, 2005 edition of Nature. It was the cover story. 3 weeks after our story was published, the Darwinists at GMU expelled her. Thankfully I already had my degree from GMU….I'm now a grad student at Johns Hopkins University and have greatly reduced my public involvement in the ID movement so that I can get through school…


EDIT: Amazing how many lies and half truths Sal can pack into a few paragraphs, must take years of practice.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,07:31   

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IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.
 
At UD his story rather says that he was afraid of the consequences:    
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I got the sense Baylor was putting Dr. Marks in their gunsights and that they would also put me indirectly in their gunsights as well if I worked at the informatics lab.

After I received late confirmation this Tuesday of my acceptance into the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering, I informed Dr. Marks with my regrets that I would no longer seek enrollment into Baylor’s Engineering program. I cited developments which have been in the news along with my acceptance into the Whiting School of Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
(emphasis added)

At the EXPELLED pages he tells a different story    
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In the Spring and Summer of 2007, Dr. Robert Marks of Baylor University offered me 2 years tuition and a small salary to work as his research assistant in the Evolutionary Informatics Lab.

The research at the lab would have overturned the false and misleading computer simulations used by Darwinists to win a major court case against ID proponents (Dover). I would have drawn a small salary and had my tuition paid to get a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering. All told, the offer amounted to about $40,000.

The Informatics Lab was shut down in August by the Darwinists at Baylor when it was evident the scientific research would put certain Darwinist organizations around the country out of business and into disrepute.  With the lab shutting down, so went my offer. Prior to this episode, I was a GMU student. I graduated with 3 degrees in scientific disciplines from GMU. At GMU, I was at Dr. Caroline Crocker's side in 2005 when the reporter from the prestigious scientific journal, Nature, interviewed us for a major story about ID on the college campuses. I knew that day would be the end of her career. Our story was told in the April 28, 2005 edition of Nature. It was the cover story. 3 weeks after our story was published, the Darwinists at GMU expelled her. Thankfully I already had my degree from GMU….I'm now a grad student at Johns Hopkins University and have greatly reduced my public involvement in the ID movement so that I can get through school…
(emphasis added)

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,07:34   

Nice find sparc. Why, there seems to be a disconnect between Sal's two accounts of what went down.

FTK, perhaps you could ask Sal to explain?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,07:36   

Quote (sparc @ Jan. 06 2008,07:31)
 
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IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.
 
At UD his story rather says that he was afraid of the consequences:        
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I got the sense Baylor was putting Dr. Marks in their gunsights and that they would also put me indirectly in their gunsights as well if I worked at the informatics lab.

After I received late confirmation this Tuesday of my acceptance into the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering, I informed Dr. Marks with my regrets that I would no longer seek enrollment into Baylor’s Engineering program. I cited developments which have been in the news along with my acceptance into the Whiting School of Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
(emphasis added)

At the EXPELLED pages he tells a different story      
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In the Spring and Summer of 2007, Dr. Robert Marks of Baylor University offered me 2 years tuition and a small salary to work as his research assistant in the Evolutionary Informatics Lab.

The research at the lab would have overturned the false and misleading computer simulations used by Darwinists to win a major court case against ID proponents (Dover). I would have drawn a small salary and had my tuition paid to get a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering. All told, the offer amounted to about $40,000.

The Informatics Lab was shut down in August by the Darwinists at Baylor when it was evident the scientific research would put certain Darwinist organizations around the country out of business and into disrepute.  With the lab shutting down, so went my offer. Prior to this episode, I was a GMU student. I graduated with 3 degrees in scientific disciplines from GMU. At GMU, I was at Dr. Caroline Crocker's side in 2005 when the reporter from the prestigious scientific journal, Nature, interviewed us for a major story about ID on the college campuses. I knew that day would be the end of her career. Our story was told in the April 28, 2005 edition of Nature. It was the cover story. 3 weeks after our story was published, the Darwinists at GMU expelled her. Thankfully I already had my degree from GMU….I'm now a grad student at Johns Hopkins University and have greatly reduced my public involvement in the ID movement so that I can get through school…
(emphasis added)

It appears that the story is evolving, and, contrary to what ID predicts, new information is being added at each generation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,08:46   

Quote (sparc @ Jan. 06 2008,08:31)
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IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.
 
At UD his story rather says that he was afraid of the consequences:      
Quote
I got the sense Baylor was putting Dr. Marks in their gunsights and that they would also put me indirectly in their gunsights as well if I worked at the informatics lab.

After I received late confirmation this Tuesday of my acceptance into the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering, I informed Dr. Marks with my regrets that I would no longer seek enrollment into Baylor’s Engineering program. I cited developments which have been in the news along with my acceptance into the Whiting School of Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
(emphasis added)

At the EXPELLED pages he tells a different story    
Quote
In the Spring and Summer of 2007, Dr. Robert Marks of Baylor University offered me 2 years tuition and a small salary to work as his research assistant in the Evolutionary Informatics Lab.

The research at the lab would have overturned the false and misleading computer simulations used by Darwinists to win a major court case against ID proponents (Dover). I would have drawn a small salary and had my tuition paid to get a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering. All told, the offer amounted to about $40,000.

The Informatics Lab was shut down in August by the Darwinists at Baylor when it was evident the scientific research would put certain Darwinist organizations around the country out of business and into disrepute.  With the lab shutting down, so went my offer. Prior to this episode, I was a GMU student. I graduated with 3 degrees in scientific disciplines from GMU. At GMU, I was at Dr. Caroline Crocker's side in 2005 when the reporter from the prestigious scientific journal, Nature, interviewed us for a major story about ID on the college campuses. I knew that day would be the end of her career. Our story was told in the April 28, 2005 edition of Nature. It was the cover story. 3 weeks after our story was published, the Darwinists at GMU expelled her. Thankfully I already had my degree from GMU….I'm now a grad student at Johns Hopkins University and have greatly reduced my public involvement in the ID movement so that I can get through school…
(emphasis added)

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,09:18   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 06 2008,08:46)
Quote (sparc @ Jan. 06 2008,08:31)
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IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.
 
At UD his story rather says that he was afraid of the consequences:      
Quote
I got the sense Baylor was putting Dr. Marks in their gunsights and that they would also put me indirectly in their gunsights as well if I worked at the informatics lab.

After I received late confirmation this Tuesday of my acceptance into the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering, I informed Dr. Marks with my regrets that I would no longer seek enrollment into Baylor’s Engineering program. I cited developments which have been in the news along with my acceptance into the Whiting School of Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
(emphasis added)

At the EXPELLED pages he tells a different story      
Quote
In the Spring and Summer of 2007, Dr. Robert Marks of Baylor University offered me 2 years tuition and a small salary to work as his research assistant in the Evolutionary Informatics Lab.

The research at the lab would have overturned the false and misleading computer simulations used by Darwinists to win a major court case against ID proponents (Dover). I would have drawn a small salary and had my tuition paid to get a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering. All told, the offer amounted to about $40,000.

The Informatics Lab was shut down in August by the Darwinists at Baylor when it was evident the scientific research would put certain Darwinist organizations around the country out of business and into disrepute.  With the lab shutting down, so went my offer. Prior to this episode, I was a GMU student. I graduated with 3 degrees in scientific disciplines from GMU. At GMU, I was at Dr. Caroline Crocker's side in 2005 when the reporter from the prestigious scientific journal, Nature, interviewed us for a major story about ID on the college campuses. I knew that day would be the end of her career. Our story was told in the April 28, 2005 edition of Nature. It was the cover story. 3 weeks after our story was published, the Darwinists at GMU expelled her. Thankfully I already had my degree from GMU….I'm now a grad student at Johns Hopkins University and have greatly reduced my public involvement in the ID movement so that I can get through school…
(emphasis added)

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Ahhhh, but is the addition of information due to purposeless random culled accidents, or is it by design?*



*we need a sparkle-y font for D-E-S-I-G-N like PZ does comic for the creobots.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,09:56   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 06 2008,08:46)
Quote (sparc @ Jan. 06 2008,08:31)
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IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.
 
At UD his story rather says that he was afraid of the consequences:      
Quote
I got the sense Baylor was putting Dr. Marks in their gunsights and that they would also put me indirectly in their gunsights as well if I worked at the informatics lab.

After I received late confirmation this Tuesday of my acceptance into the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering, I informed Dr. Marks with my regrets that I would no longer seek enrollment into Baylor’s Engineering program. I cited developments which have been in the news along with my acceptance into the Whiting School of Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
(emphasis added)

At the EXPELLED pages he tells a different story      
Quote
In the Spring and Summer of 2007, Dr. Robert Marks of Baylor University offered me 2 years tuition and a small salary to work as his research assistant in the Evolutionary Informatics Lab.

The research at the lab would have overturned the false and misleading computer simulations used by Darwinists to win a major court case against ID proponents (Dover). I would have drawn a small salary and had my tuition paid to get a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering. All told, the offer amounted to about $40,000.

The Informatics Lab was shut down in August by the Darwinists at Baylor when it was evident the scientific research would put certain Darwinist organizations around the country out of business and into disrepute.  With the lab shutting down, so went my offer. Prior to this episode, I was a GMU student. I graduated with 3 degrees in scientific disciplines from GMU. At GMU, I was at Dr. Caroline Crocker's side in 2005 when the reporter from the prestigious scientific journal, Nature, interviewed us for a major story about ID on the college campuses. I knew that day would be the end of her career. Our story was told in the April 28, 2005 edition of Nature. It was the cover story. 3 weeks after our story was published, the Darwinists at GMU expelled her. Thankfully I already had my degree from GMU….I'm now a grad student at Johns Hopkins University and have greatly reduced my public involvement in the ID movement so that I can get through school…
(emphasis added)

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

I know that, given his epic inability to tell the truth in the past, there is no reason that I should be surprised by this latest fib, but it's really amazing just how much he does lie, and how poor a job he does of it, too!

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,11:37   

Sal Genesis 1.

Sal Genesis 2.

What's the big deal?  He's working from a model.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,15:14   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 06 2008,09:18)
Ahhhh, but is the addition of information due to purposeless random culled accidents, or is it by design?*



*we need a sparkle-y font for D-E-S-I-G-N like PZ does comic for the creobots.

Try this thing, maybe?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,16:00   

Quote (Annyday @ Jan. 06 2008,15:14)
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Ahhhh, but is the addition of information due to purposeless random culled accidents, or is it by design?*



*we need a sparkle-y font for D-E-S-I-G-N like PZ does comic for the creobots.

Try this thing, maybe?

I tried "All Science So Far" with that link, but no luck.

This one works, though.

Look for Arden to start posting glittery lolcats in 3... 2...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,17:48   

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IIRC The reason Sal could not take up the offer at the info lab was directly because of the evil darwiniods.
 
At UD his story rather says that he was afraid of the consequences:      
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I got the sense Baylor was putting Dr. Marks in their gunsights and that they would also put me indirectly in their gunsights as well if I worked at the informatics lab.

After I received late confirmation this Tuesday of my acceptance into the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering, I informed Dr. Marks with my regrets that I would no longer seek enrollment into Baylor’s Engineering program. I cited developments which have been in the news along with my acceptance into the Whiting School of Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
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At the EXPELLED pages he tells a different story    
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In the Spring and Summer of 2007, Dr. Robert Marks of Baylor University offered me 2 years tuition and a small salary to work as his research assistant in the Evolutionary Informatics Lab.

The research at the lab would have overturned the false and misleading computer simulations used by Darwinists to win a major court case against ID proponents (Dover). I would have drawn a small salary and had my tuition paid to get a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering. All told, the offer amounted to about $40,000.

The Informatics Lab was shut down in August by the Darwinists at Baylor when it was evident the scientific research would put certain Darwinist organizations around the country out of business and into disrepute.  With the lab shutting down, so went my offer. Prior to this episode, I was a GMU student. I graduated with 3 degrees in scientific disciplines from GMU. At GMU, I was at Dr. Caroline Crocker's side in 2005 when the reporter from the prestigious scientific journal, Nature, interviewed us for a major story about ID on the college campuses. I knew that day would be the end of her career. Our story was told in the April 28, 2005 edition of Nature. It was the cover story. 3 weeks after our story was published, the Darwinists at GMU expelled her. Thankfully I already had my degree from GMU….I'm now a grad student at Johns Hopkins University and have greatly reduced my public involvement in the ID movement so that I can get through school…
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And now a third version
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For example, I shouldn’t have to worry about studying engineering or physics because I reject Darwinism, but the forces enforcing political correctness cost me and other grad students an opportunity at Baylor when they shut down distinguished professor Robert Mark’s evolutionary informatics lab. All told, the Darwinists cost me (and if not me, another grad student) $40,000 in tuition and stipends. This sort of political correctness is bad for business, especially when we should be seeking ways to get engineering and applied physics students through our educational system, not trying to get rid of them because they are skeptical of the status quo.

http://www.youngcosmos.com/blog/archives/174

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,17:57   

Arden supports the status quo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I8JmJ_P8l8

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,18:03   

Maybe it was Marks who told Sal that the "lab" was being shut down just to get rid of him, and Sal doesn't actually know that Marks merely switched servers.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,19:43   

I read through Young Cosmos to read his "apology", and I noticed this gem:

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   What we’d allow to run rampant is tolerance.

Herr PZ Myers,
just before he sent FtK to the dungeon for expressing her dissent


Hey FTK, why don't you allow others to comment on Young Kosmos?

If banning one person who went after his daughter makes him Hitler (Herr), what does that make you two?

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2008,23:45   

Some of Sal's logical inconsistencies:
       
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Well, let me tell you Jeff Shallit, I’m an ID proponent and I’m not a creationist in a cheap tuxedo because my tuxedo costs lots of money.
 
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... creationists are wearing expensive tuxedos (creationist engineers and creationist medical doctors, after all, make much more money than Darwinist biologists) ...


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