Joined: July 2011
|Quote (keiths @ April 24 2019,12:01)|
|Quote (Richardthughes @ April 24 2019,05:01)|
|Is TSZ folding? That would be a shame, the current shitshow notwithstanding.|
Alan seems to want that. He keeps talking about shutting the site down and archiving everything.
I haven't seen any evidence that Lizzie is on board with that idea, however.
I just read through that discussion thread. Does Alan really think that TSZ can't continue without him? It definitely works better when Lizzie is there, but that's partly because of the abuses by Alan, Neil, and DNA Jock, none of whom support her vision for the site. I find myself disappointed in DNA Jock in particular. He used to be on the side of freedom of expression. Alan's never been strong on that or skepticism in general, so his behavior is less of a surprise (I doubt he'll ever demonstrate the integrity to defend his defamatory statements).
In the past I've jokingly referred to TSZ as Lizzie's experiment, but I'm starting to think that might be the case. Start a site dedicated to the principle of free speech and see how long it takes for people given tiny amounts of power to demonstrate their petty authoritarianism.
I'd very much like to see Lizzie return and build TSZ back up. Intelligent design creationism is dead, but her goals weren't limited to that one issue:
|My motivation for starting the site has been the experience of trying to discuss religion, politics, evolution, the Mind/Brain problem, creationism, ethics, exit polls, probability, intelligent design, and many other topics in venues where positions are strongly held and feelings run high.|
There are a lot of topics where strange bedfellows might be found.
Edited by Patrick on April 25 2019,13:27