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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2014,04:20   

They Said It:

KF -  
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TVH, you have been given an answer above, not only by me but by VJT — who is a full bore philosopher.


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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2014,05:36   

Quote (afarensis @ Jan. 31 2014,12:23)
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Totally off-topic but this morning as I was walking into work a police van with a tannoy attached to the roof drew up outside the maths department and counted up to five. Was this some bizarre mathematical taunt?

It's Joe, with a Largest Known Number progress report.

I think it means they lost the instructions to the holy hand grenade of Antioch and are about to snuff it.

It looks like they finally found it this morning

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2014,23:08   

Just to not let this thread dry out: Are you aware of A Storehouse of Knowledge?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2014,23:49   

Why has KF not thanked Roy for his much need correction here upon his seat of learning? Must do better.

Editz for linkfixin.

Edited by Richardthughes on Feb. 03 2014,00:11

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 02 2014,23:54   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 02 2014,23:49)
Why has KF not thanked Roy for his much need correction (here http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....ti....) upon his seat of learning? Must do better.

Link broken.  Need a space before the last parentheses.

Mapoo and KF both sure cut and ran after Roy's smackdown though.

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Whizz-dumb from Joe "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest female impersonator YEC.

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,00:30   

interesting, Winston Ewert admits they can't calculate the probabilities for evolution, but would like to argue from BIGNUM anyways. Here.

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,03:45   

Quote (sparc @ Feb. 02 2014,23:08)
Just to not let this thread dry out: Are you aware of A Storehouse of Knowledge?

It's like a little piece of Conservapedia broke off and drifted to Australia.

  
BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,06:36   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 03 2014,09:45)
 
Quote (sparc @ Feb. 02 2014,23:08)
Just to not let this thread dry out: Are you aware of A Storehouse of Knowledge?

It's like a little piece of Conservapedia broke off and drifted to Australia.

Apparently it had set out with a YEC companion from Mexico in a small boat over a year ago, heading for El Salva-cordova. The companion slipped overboard many months earlier and the remaining conservacastawayapedia only managed to survive by drinking the gullibility of home schooled children and eating his own words.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,08:12   

Marsupial tard.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,08:13   

Hmmm, KF still hasn't thanked Roy for pointing out his hypocrisy and that he is indeed a quote-miner, and apologized to him. Sad, and very telling. Mist do better.

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BillB



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,08:41   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 03 2014,14:13)
Hmmm, KF still hasn't thanked Roy for pointing out his hypocrisy and that he is indeed a quote-miner, and apologized to him. Sad, and very telling. Mist do better.

A sudden emergency has diverted KF's attention and won't be over until the thread has been buried.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,09:30   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 03 2014,00:30)
interesting, Winston Ewert admits they can't calculate the probabilities for evolution, but would like to argue from BIGNUM anyways. Here.

Seqenenre (which one of you is he?) points out the battleship-sized hole in their reasoning.

   
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Seqenenre: What are the chances that an Intelligent Designer is capable of designing a flagellum


Chubbytard of course chimes in with his circular non-answer

   
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JoeTard:  Designers are capable of designing the things they design.

How do we know that ancient humans could design Stonehenge? Stonehemge. (SIC)


In that case Chubs evolution is capable of producing things that have evolved.

How do we know evolution produced the flagellum?  The flagellum.
 

End of discussion.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"I'm a female retired marine biologist"

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,15:29   

So when pressed on specification, UD's death spiral:

1) We've done the maths.
2) Ahem, we haven't, but it doesn't matter. DESIGN!
3) You first!!!
4) We're not talking to you until you clean up the entire internet and dissociate from anyone who has outed someone*, made rude parodies of someone^, or banned Joe for a grotesque slur.  

*Arrington and Dembski, guilty
^Farting federal judges, etc...

  
Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,18:41   

Denyse has her finger on the pulse as ever:

 
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The Onion takes a stab, so to speak, at design theory

And gets something right, too, with respect to Isaac Newton’s theories, in the new theory of Intelligent Falling


I'm sure many of you are familiar with the Onion article, from 2005.

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Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,19:43   

Clive sighting! (I think, if so Hi Clive!).
Check out this paragraph:
 
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Actually I agree that much of the Old Testament in an allegory. This is pretty standard doctrine. The Jews are an image of the church. The sacrifice of the lamb foreshadows the sacrifice of the Christ. That being said, they are an allegory that actually lived and breathed. Jesus was referred to as a “Second Adam” in that he was beginning a new people. Be that as it may, there is no sense that Jesus looked at the old testament as an allegory only. He spoke of it as actual history. And he should know, he was there.

Great stuff - it starts with a statement, and then it somehow turns right back on itself, resolving to argumentum ad kenham.

Edited: OK, probably not the original moderator Clive.

Edited by Ptaylor on Feb. 04 2014,13:15

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,21:32   

Quote (DiEb @ Feb. 01 2014,13:03)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 31 2014,09:42)

Totally off-topic but this morning as I was walking into work a police van with a tannoy attached to the roof drew up outside the maths department and counted up to five. Was this some bizarre mathematical taunt?

Wahrscheinlich im Zuge der Vorbereitungen zur Sprengung des Pädagogenturms...

Easy for you to say.

Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2014,21:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 02 2014,23:49)
Why has KF not thanked Roy for his much need correction here upon his seat of learning? Must do better.

Editz for linkfixin.

KirosFocus, you posted this in the self same thread:

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...Looks like, rather than acknowledge wrongdoing,accept correction and turn from what has been done, we have a silent tip-toeing away. Speaks volumes, sad but revealing volumes. KF


YOU ARE THE KING OF HYPOCRITES. Sad but revealing volumes.

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2014,00:00   

From the quotemining thread.
   
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72 Mapou December 25, 2013 at 3:37 pm

God darn it.

I want to see the evidence for the fine Darwinian gradation between small Precambrian shellies and trilobites.

Where are those Darwinists hiding? Are they all celebrating Christmas? LOL.


God darn it.

I want to see YOUR evidence for the abrupt transitions between small Precambrian shellies and trilobites.

Where are those IDists hiding?  Christmas is over.  Give us your data NOW!

I'll assume you're all bullshitters until one of you produces it.


Just trying for my second Mapou assisted post-bannanation posting on UD.  I don't think he's dumb enough to fall for it a second time, but that boy can surprise you sometimes.

  
Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2014,00:14   

Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 03 2014,20:32)
Quote (DiEb @ Feb. 01 2014,13:03)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 31 2014,09:42)

Totally off-topic but this morning as I was walking into work a police van with a tannoy attached to the roof drew up outside the maths department and counted up to five. Was this some bizarre mathematical taunt?

Wahrscheinlich im Zuge der Vorbereitungen zur Sprengung des Pädagogenturms...

Easy for you to say.

Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale

Meine Nippel explodieren vor Freude

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2014,11:06   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 03 2014,21:38)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 02 2014,23:49)
Why has KF not thanked Roy for his much need correction here upon his seat of learning? Must do better.

Editz for linkfixin.

KirosFocus, you posted this in the self same thread:

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...Looks like, rather than acknowledge wrongdoing,accept correction and turn from what has been done, we have a silent tip-toeing away. Speaks volumes, sad but revealing volumes. KF


YOU ARE THE KING OF HYPOCRITES. Sad but revealing volumes.

Still no apology KF? I see you are prolific in other threads. Shameful, cowardly and hypocritical. MUST DO BETTER.

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didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2014,18:37   

A new player by the name of "origin_surgeon" has appeared at UD.  Looks like they'll be fitting in just fine:

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No serious biologist would deny that Homo Sapiens have 46 Chromosomes and the great apes have 48. However, to say this is ‘proof’ of common descent is completely misleading, because to believe that 46-48 chromosomes of close human to apes relationship as ancestry would mean that potatoes,Tobacco and gray tree frogs are direct descents as well for they also have 48 chromosomes.


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Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2014,19:08   

Title at UD:

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Resources for the Nye Ham debate tonight – also, plea to ID types: Be realistic


Yeah, that'll work.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2014,22:05   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ Feb. 04 2014,19:08)
Title at UD:

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Resources for the Nye Ham debate tonight – also, plea to ID types: Be realistic


Yeah, that'll work.

Glen Davidson

It's worked so well up to now.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2014,23:06   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Feb. 04 2014,00:14)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 03 2014,20:32)
Quote (DiEb @ Feb. 01 2014,13:03)
 
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 31 2014,09:42)

Totally off-topic but this morning as I was walking into work a police van with a tannoy attached to the roof drew up outside the maths department and counted up to five. Was this some bizarre mathematical taunt?

Wahrscheinlich im Zuge der Vorbereitungen zur Sprengung des Pädagogenturms...

Easy for you to say.

Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale

Meine Nippel explodieren vor Freude

Vielleicht sollten wir einen thread für deutschsprachige Latrinalia einrichten.

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Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2014,00:03   

Quote (sparc @ Feb. 04 2014,22:06)
Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Feb. 04 2014,00:14)
Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 03 2014,20:32)
 
Quote (DiEb @ Feb. 01 2014,13:03)
   
Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 31 2014,09:42)

Totally off-topic but this morning as I was walking into work a police van with a tannoy attached to the roof drew up outside the maths department and counted up to five. Was this some bizarre mathematical taunt?

Wahrscheinlich im Zuge der Vorbereitungen zur Sprengung des Pädagogenturms...

Easy for you to say.

Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale

Meine Nippel explodieren vor Freude

Vielleicht sollten wir einen thread für deutschsprachige Latrinalia einrichten.

Wenn ich sagte, Sie hatten einen schönen Körper, würdest du es gegen mich halten?

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2014,02:27   

UD has a commentary on the Nye-Ham debate. You will like this passage:

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Also, Nye harped quite a bit on the number of species, but he seemed to misunderstand his own calculation. His number (16 million I think) of species are based off of the total number of species anywhere – including bacteria, fungus, molds, plants, single-celled organisms, fish, etc (it is also an *estimate*, not an actual count). The number of species on the ark is based on the total number of land-based animals and birds. I don’t remember exactly what the present number of species is for land-based animals, but it is a much more reasonable number (I think there is an average that each ark-kind has only diversified into 8-10 species in total).


8-10 species. Right.

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Driver



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2014,03:04   

Querius:

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On weekends, I spend time with some guys that have recently come out of prison, helping them adjust to being out.

One of them spent 18 years in prison, the other 12 years between county jail and prison. Going in, they were violent drug and alcohol abusers, and the first was also a drug dealer.

In prison, they accepted Christ, immersed themselves in the Word of God, and have changed dramatically! They are kind, loving, hard working, and dependable guys deeply ashamed of their histories and grateful for the smallest blessing or kindness. I’m humbled by them, trust them more than many other people I know, and honored to have them as friends.

Their personal relationships with God through the power of Jesus Christ has had an amazing effect on their relationships, values, and their lives. They tell me that phonies and hypocrites are quickly exposed in prison.


link

I want to comment on this because it is personal. I knew a guy who became Christian in prison. Everyone on our street, very few of them Christians (as this is middle class London) knew what he had done but they were pleasant to him and prepared to give him a chance to show he had turned over a new leaf. He found work as a painter and decorator.

He was actively involved in his Church, and I do not doubt that he found purpose and acceptance there. Unfortunately, it was not enough, as he eventually committed suicide.

It is unlikely that this story is rare. I would expect to find that ex-criminals who have been in prison are far more likely to both become Christian and kill themselves.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2014,05:51   

Quote (Driver @ Feb. 05 2014,03:27)
UD has a commentary on the Nye-Ham debate. You will like this passage:

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Also, Nye harped quite a bit on the number of species, but he seemed to misunderstand his own calculation. His number (16 million I think) of species are based off of the total number of species anywhere – including bacteria, fungus, molds, plants, single-celled organisms, fish, etc (it is also an *estimate*, not an actual count). The number of species on the ark is based on the total number of land-based animals and birds. I don’t remember exactly what the present number of species is for land-based animals, but it is a much more reasonable number (I think there is an average that each ark-kind has only diversified into 8-10 species in total).


8-10 species. Right.

It's an epically dishonest argument which serves to completely sidestep the issue of osmosis, not to mention what the herbivores ate after getting off the ark.

It wouldn't even get past basic high school Bio I or Chem I.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2014,05:55   

Lewontin!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2014,07:49   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 05 2014,05:51)
Quote (Driver @ Feb. 05 2014,03:27)
UD has a commentary on the Nye-Ham debate. You will like this passage:

 
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Also, Nye harped quite a bit on the number of species, but he seemed to misunderstand his own calculation. His number (16 million I think) of species are based off of the total number of species anywhere – including bacteria, fungus, molds, plants, single-celled organisms, fish, etc (it is also an *estimate*, not an actual count). The number of species on the ark is based on the total number of land-based animals and birds. I don’t remember exactly what the present number of species is for land-based animals, but it is a much more reasonable number (I think there is an average that each ark-kind has only diversified into 8-10 species in total).


8-10 species. Right.

It's an epically dishonest argument which serves to completely sidestep the issue of osmosis, not to mention what the herbivores ate after getting off the ark.

It wouldn't even get past basic high school Bio I or Chem I.

Not to mention which of the people on the ark had all those parasites.

Or are parasites tools of satan and therefore evolve more quickly?  Or is satan also a designer?  Man, this is more complicated than I thought.

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