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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 06 2007,08:53   

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ANybody that can still post needs to ask about atmospheric concentrations of C-14 and the "lines of evidence" that show it was less then it is now.


You mean like the multiple independent C14 cal curves I posted and explained to Sal in my very first message there?

The ones that clearly show the historical C14/C12 ratio was actually slightly higher in the past 20,000 years than it is now?

The ones that mean without a correction factor, items dated with C14 are really slightly older than the uncorrected C14 measured date?

The ones that Sal hand waved away by claiming "circular reasoning", then summarily deleted?

BTW, all that data is still available in the YC recycle bin under "Tiggy's remains".  I'd be tickled pink in someone would repost it.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 06 2007,09:11   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 06 2007,08:53)
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ANybody that can still post needs to ask about atmospheric concentrations of C-14 and the "lines of evidence" that show it was less then it is now.


You mean like the multiple independent C14 cal curves I posted and explained to Sal in my very first message there?

The ones that clearly show the historical C14/C12 ratio was actually slightly higher in the past 20,000 years than it is now?

The ones that mean without a correction factor, items dated with C14 are really slightly older than the uncorrected C14 measured date?

The ones that Sal hand waved away by claiming "circular reasoning", then summarily deleted?

BTW, all that data is still available in the YC recycle bin under "Tiggy's remains".  I'd be tickled pink in someone would repost it.

them's the ones :)

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 06 2007,11:29   

Well Hermagoras, Cordova's respone to your last post is up. †To absolutely no one 's surprise, spineless Sal once again completely ignored the tough †technical questions. †He did manage to accuse me of quote mining though :p , and now claims that anyone who gives the YEC articles a "fair and charitable reading" MUST agree with his position.


:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2007,00:55   

I can't seem to reply on Young Cosmos.  I can log in, and preview a message, but I when I try to submit a post it kicks me back to the editing board.  I've been able to post a message to that effect here.  I wonder what will happen next . . . .

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2007,01:04   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Aug. 07 2007,00:55)
I can't seem to reply on Young Cosmos.  I can log in, and preview a message, but I when I try to submit a post it kicks me back to the editing board.  I've been able to post a message to that effect here.  I wonder what will happen next . . . .

If it was anyone else besides Slimy Sal, I'd say "never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity".  However, considering what he's done to the account of virtually every single dissenter though...

Let us know if you get an explanation and can post again.

In the mean time, Asshat's got a boner on because he was introduced to a new YEC website full of sciency-sounding gobbledygook.

Different day, same circus, same clown.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2007,11:29   

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Bold prediction of CDK possibly confirmed!!!!
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Posted in Advanced Creation Science, Speed of Light by Salvador @ Jul 25, 2007

[Advanced Creation Science]


LOL Advanced Creation Science.

http://www.virtual-creations.net/~youngcos/blog/

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2007,11:36   

Looks like the YEC short bus just got a little shorter.  :p

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"I'm a female retired marine biologist"

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2007,11:37   

"For example, the degree of time dilation predicted when we start to look at objects at say about 30,000 light years is about 59, their physical motions will appear to be slowed down by factors of 59!"


http://www.antievolution.org/people/dembski_wa/wad_factors_59.html


Design?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2007,11:47   

Note on the YoungCosmos site        
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YoungCosmos has been overhauled and upgraded into 3 websites, and has also moved.

YoungCosmos is now split into 3 websites;

1. www.YoungCosmos.com (main website, and portal to everything else)

2. www.YoungCosmosBlog.com
(a place for fellowship, encouragement, and inspiration)

3. www.YoungCosmosDiscussion.com (professional level YEC science forum)

One wonders what a "professional level YEC science forum" might look like. Here's a guess.



BTW, the comments on that announcement, featuring Hermagoras and Sal, are pretty rich as well.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 08 2007,13:29   

Is this the art of banning without banning?

http://www.virtual-creations.net/~youngc....tart=30

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2007,09:56   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 08 2007,13:29)
Is this the art of banning without banning?

http://www.virtual-creations.net/~youngc....tart=30

OK, I'm now able to post as Hermagoras2.  Nothing substantive yet -- I'll respond soon with more substance and aggression.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2007,10:06   

Why is it that Biologists run servers better than Engineers?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2007,10:22   

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Why is it that Biologists run servers better than Engineers?

It is strange.  YouCantpost is almost as bad as UsuallyDown in that respect.  

Elsewhere at Young Comos, Thought Provoker is quietly kicking ass.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2007,10:40   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Aug. 09 2007,10:22)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 09 2007,10:06)
Why is it that Biologists run servers better than Engineers?

It is strange. †YouCantpost is almost as bad as UsuallyDown in that respect. †

Elsewhere at Young Comos, Thought Provoker is quietly kicking ass.

Hermagoras - That's funny!  Thanks for the link!  Thought provoker list 56 diffrent ways to date things for Sal.  

Sal responds:  "That's too many".

What else is YEC gonna say?  It must totally suck to be Sal!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 09 2007,10:52   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Aug. 09 2007,10:22)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 09 2007,10:06)
Why is it that Biologists run servers better than Engineers?

It is strange.  YouCantpost is almost as bad as UsuallyDown in that respect.  

Elsewhere at Young Comos, Thought Provoker is quietly kicking ass.

Yeah, I've been following that too - it's hilarious!  Sal invited TP over because TP is a EE like Sal.    Now TP's not playing the straight man flunky that Sal expected.  Oops! :D

How long before TP's account starts having 'posting issues'?    :p

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"I'm a female retired marine biologist"

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,07:11   

Sal's now mostly talking to himself on his boards. I wonder why that would be :)

Almost all the threads have Salvador as the person who added the last comment, and if they don't it's because Sal is afraid to address the issues in the thread.

E.G in the " Creation Science" section, the last non-Sal comment is from Wed Aug 08.

I guess Sal should see that it's only him who's interested in his garbage. Him and us  :p

If we hop over to the intelligent design section the last post was by Sal on Mon Aug 06.

There is a thread there by a chap called "chunk"  ;) and he asks
 
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Anybody got any hard figures for the "information" in flagellum etc? Not the probability of them coming into existence fully formed , but an actual number that goes up and down (well, only down I suppose if genetic entropy theory is true!;) depending on the mutation.

So, for example, a petri dish of bacteria will have each bacteria with an average CSI of X, but some can go so high as Y or low as Q.


what an interesting question. And more interesting that Sal has left that thead alone. You'd think he'd jump in with an answer to such a simple question, but nothing at all from Sal on that.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,08:13   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Aug. 13 2007,15:11)
Sal's now mostly talking to himself on his boards. I wonder why that would be :)

Almost all the threads have Salvador as the person who added the last comment, and if they don't it's because Sal is afraid to address the issues in the thread.

E.G in the " Creation Science" section, the last non-Sal comment is from Wed Aug 08.

I guess Sal should see that it's only him who's interested in his garbage. Him and us †:p

If we hop over to the intelligent design section the last post was by Sal on Mon Aug 06.

There is a thread there by a chap called "chunk" †;) and he asks
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Anybody got any hard figures for the "information" in flagellum etc? Not the probability of them coming into existence fully formed , but an actual number that goes up and down (well, only down I suppose if genetic entropy theory is true!) depending on the mutation.

So, for example, a petri dish of bacteria will have each bacteria with an average CSI of X, but some can go so high as Y or low as Q.


what an interesting question. And more interesting that Sal has left that thead alone. You'd think he'd jump in with an answer to such a simple question, but nothing at all from Sal on that.

HEATHEN!! BACTERIAL ENTROPY ALWAYS GOES DOWN , EXCEPT WHEN IT GOES UP. IT NEVER GOES SIDEWAYS EXCEPT WHEN FATHER O'DON JUAN  GETS THE KEYS TO THE CELLAR. HOMO!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,16:30   

Up and down? Nonsense - flagella go in circles, just like any outboard motor propeller! :p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,16:55   

Sal sounds like a precocious 10 yr old muttering to himself
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It can be seen then, as time goes on, light from a given source becomes increasingly blue shifted when observed nearby. Howevr, from a distance it will appear red shifted since the observer will be in a relatively higher blue shift state at his observation post. This would also mean the sun began generating more gamma-rays, x-rays, and UV light over time. There might have been a time the sun was more benevolent.

Aww
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There might have been a time the sun was more benevolent
link

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,16:57   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Aug. 13 2007,16:55)
Sal sounds like a precocious 10 yr old muttering to himself
 
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It can be seen then, as time goes on, light from a given source becomes increasingly blue shifted when observed nearby. Howevr, from a distance it will appear red shifted since the observer will be in a relatively higher blue shift state at his observation post. This would also mean the sun began generating more gamma-rays, x-rays, and UV light over time. There might have been a time the sun was more benevolent.

Aww
 
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There might have been a time the sun was more benevolent
link

Darn that evil sun!!11!!1

(What the hell?)

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,17:11   

The thing that amuses me most about ole Sal is he can say this with a straight face
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uncertain effect on warming of Earth if sun radiating in lower wavelength, there needs to be a compensating mechanism, although photo synthesis and color vision could remain unaffected.

After all god is standing right there doing it in the first place, what better compensating mechanism could you ask for? Why appeal to any other force, or try to rationalize it. I mean, at what point is Sal going to start investigating the mechanism  the universe was created with in the first place? Or how the bush could burn? Or how exactly water turned to wine?

At what point does Sal draw the line? I suspect it's at the point the line kinda blurs into a load of blah equations, just complex enough to be fuzzy to non scientists. just like the entire fan base of ID/DS/UD in fact.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2007,22:17   

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It can be seen then, as time goes on, light from a given source becomes increasingly blue shifted when observed nearby. Howevr, from a distance it will appear red shifted since the observer will be in a relatively higher blue shift state at his observation post.


What does the author of that think he's saying? Sounds like he's mixing up red shift from expansion with red or blue shift due to relative motion - none of which applies to the sun since its distance from the Earth is relatively constant, and far too small for universe expansion to be relevant.

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,12:44   

Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 13 2007,22:17)
   
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It can be seen then, as time goes on, light from a given source becomes increasingly blue shifted when observed nearby. Howevr, from a distance it will appear red shifted since the observer will be in a relatively higher blue shift state at his observation post.


What does the author of that think he's saying? Sounds like he's mixing up red shift from expansion with red or blue shift due to relative motion - none of which applies to the sun since its distance from the Earth is relatively constant, and far too small for universe expansion to be relevant.

Henry

What Sal thinks he is doing is providing explanations for observations that fit (mangle) the data but which also support his conclusion of a young universe.

If we adjust the speed of light like so then the universe is only 6000 years old

I mean, one of his aims is to make the figures for accelerated nuclear decay work out so that Adam and Eve don't get fried!

So, after getting (from what I can tell) roundly slated by SCheeseman who says    
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So you have two factors that would fundamentally alter the whole dynamics of a supernova: the ratio of the rates of expansion to radioactive decay is completely different, and the ratio of the energy released by thermal means and by radioactive means is altered as well. Despite this, we observe the same decay curves, even in galaxies 200 million light years away as we do in those 10 milion light years away.

The same arguments can be applied to Cepheid variables; at least some component of the variation is gravitational, and the ratio of the graviatational to CDK-dependent components is so vastly different in the CDK model that we should see fundamentally different behaviour even as close as the Globular clusters, let alone the Andromeda galaxy.


Sal then says says    
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I thank you for pointing out difficulties in our ideas, but I'm at the point I will probably split time to gather research on the thawing effect and the distance dilation issue. We have prima facie evidence this could be the case. Tifft argued there is strong evidence of time-varying redshifts. There is no reason the experiment can't be repeated.


Yeah, no reason at all except I think it would be the first ever actual ID/YEC/IDC experiment carried out to my knowledge.
 
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If the thawing tests succeed, well, then there will be a lot of hard work ahead to find a viable theory.


http://www.virtual-creations.net/~youngcos/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=132

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,13:02   

Sal also mentioned something called the "Evolutionary hypothesis of radioactivity". I'm guessing he really means the idea that standard radioactivity axioms support an old earth, so they must be wrong.

When asked to expand upon it he says




     
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There are several ideas for the presence of radioactivity:

1. stellar-planetary evolution (the evolutionary hypothesis) [not the same as biological evolution]

2. created radioactivity with missing isotopes [Sarfati Rolling Eyes ]

3. created radioactivity with accelerated decay that makes missing isotopes (Setterfield)

4. little or no created radioactivity, a late phenomena due to a rare mechanical, chemical, electrical reaction or a cosmogenic source or sources of things like neutrons(Brown unpublished, undeveloped speculation), followed up with accelerated decay


The problem with the stellar-planetary evolution model is uranium, being dense, should have sunk to the depths of the Earth and stayed there, not risen to the surface. Yet we find it in relative abundance at the surface. This would be true in any sort of "liquid" model of solid rock which geologist use. They say solid rock can be modeled like a liquid over great time scales and even the Earth was molten perhaps at one time. The "crustal recycling" ideas also fails to explain the presence of uranium at the surface because of the density issue. The same would be true of most other dense substances! Of course perhaps some chemical compound of uranium that is not so dense can help, but then we're still stuck with the issue of figuring out the mix of whatever exists on the surface in light of the density problem. Something doesn't add up either way.


And the best line
     
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Something doesn't add up either way.


And anyway, how does Sal propose to tell if the "earth was molten at some time"

And has Sal not completely oversimplified things? In his model, the atmospheric gases would settle into layers for the same reason that the      
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"crustal recycling" ideas also fails to explain the presence of uranium at the surface because of the density issue


Something does not add up? It appears that thing is Sal's inability to use a search engine

The Cosmic Origins of Uranium

   
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We might further ask how long ago this synthesis of uranium occurred. Given

   * the present day abundances of U-235 and U-238 in the various 'shells' forming our planet,
   * a knowledge of the half-lives of these isotopes, and
   * the age of the Earth (c 4.55 billion years) - known from various radiometric 'clocks', including those of the uranium-to-lead decay chains.

we can calculate the abundances of U-235 and U-238 at the time the Earth was formed. Knowing further that the production ratio of U-235 to U-238 in a supernova is about 1.65, we can calculate that if all of the uranium now in the solar system were made in a single supernova, this event must have occurred some 6.5 billion years ago.
This 'single stage' is, however, an oversimplification. In fact, multiple supernovae from over 6 billion to about 200 million years ago were involved. Additionally, studies of the isotopic abundances of elements, such as silicon and carbon in meteorites, have shown that more than ten separate stellar sources were involved in the genesis of solar system material.


Ten separate sources huh Sal? Can you model even begin to  explain the formation of uranium? Never mind where we find it in the crust...

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,13:21   

It's not Uranium Sal is concerned about it's Radium!

The Evil Evolutionist Conspriracy, has forced Timex to corner the market, to keep IDists and YECers from doing the vital experiments that will PROVE  their talking points, I mean theory.   And just like Sal, they take a licking and keep on ticking.

Unfortuantely.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,14:06   

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even the Earth was molten perhaps at one time

You mean in the last 6000 years, right Sal?

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2007,14:47   

Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Aug. 14 2007,14:06)
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even the Earth was molten perhaps at one time

You mean in the last 6000 years, right Sal?

Lord Kelvin, hero of YECs comes to our rescue! †:p

http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi144.htm

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By now, Joseph Fourier had developed a theory of heat conduction. It was based on avant-garde mathematics that a lot of people couldn't accept. Then, in 1862, a British scientist, Lord Kelvin, used Fourier's theory to calculate the age of the earth. He knew the earth's temperature increased one degree Fahrenheit for each 50 feet you went into the ground. He guessed that the earth began as molten rock at 7000į F. By solving Fourier's equation, Kelvin found that it must have taken a hundred million years for the earth's temperature to level out to one degree every 50 feet.
 Emphasis by TPH.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2007,07:30   

<chortle> Sal thinks he's going to redefine cosmology
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If one thinks CDK is outrageous, consider the alternative. The Big Bang. Everything began from a region smaller than the point of pin. Further it requires Dark Matter to make it work.

This is what Dark Matter is Dark Matter: Hidden Mass Confounds Science, Inspires Revolutionary Theories.
http://www.space.com/science....-2.html

And so there is the missing link question of how a star is formed of real matter and dark matter. If Dark matter is gravitational, why does it not accrete (attract to each other and coagulate)? One has to one wonder how stars and planets form in the presence of Dark matter. Something about this seems incredibly unwholsome. Dark matter can assemble galaxies and keep them intact, yet somehow it did not accrete into planets and stars. One could argue that Dark Matter is diffuse, to which I would say "Why?". Why would it coagulate enough to form galaxies, yet not coagulate to help form stars and planets.

So the missing link here is not just the population III star, but a formation mechanism involving Dark Matter.


yeah, whatever Sal, whatever.

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FTK

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2007,09:00   

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Something about this seems incredibly unwholsome

Oh no, it's the incontrovertible argument from misspelled unwholesomeness! We should just admit goddidit to prevent further embarassment.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2007,14:27   

Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Aug. 16 2007,09:00)
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Something about this seems incredibly unwholsome

Oh no, it's the incontrovertible argument from misspelled unwholesomeness! We should just admit goddidit to prevent further embarassment.

Whatever the spelling, that's an odd choice of a word.

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
-JoeG

  
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