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Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2019,19:24    Re "And they wonder why no-one takes them seriously. " Except for others like them, of which there are many. (And, they vote )

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2019,19:59    Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 02 2019,17:24) Re "And they wonder why no-one takes them seriously. " Except for others like them, of which there are many. (And, they vote :O ) ... and breed. I should have qualified: no-one in the reality-based community takes them seriously. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2019,20:19    Quote 8 Brother Brian August 2, 2019 at 6:14 pm Using BA77 parlance, further to this: Probabilities in the evolution sense do come into play in that evolution can only work on existing variation. Only time can provide more variation. Much in the same way that ET can only respond with the same parroted catch phrases and insults. On occasion he can vary them (probably due to random mutation) but the changes are limited by the IQ of ET. Baby steps for baby minds. 🙂 of course the next five replies on the site are from ET, who lacks all self-awareness

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 02 2019,23:58    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 02 2019,18:19) Quote 8 Brother Brian August 2, 2019 at 6:14 pm Using BA77 parlance, further to this: Probabilities in the evolution sense do come into play in that evolution can only work on existing variation. Only time can provide more variation. Much in the same way that ET can only respond with the same parroted catch phrases and insults. On occasion he can vary them (probably due to random mutation) but the changes are limited by the IQ of ET. Baby steps for baby minds. 🙂 of course the next five replies on the site are from ET, who lacks all self-awareness :D  :)  :p   Last time Joe Gump had an original thought, it died of loneliness. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2019,03:38    Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 02 2019,16:40) Latest headline on UD: Kirk Durston Offers a Scientific Method for Design Detection Someone needs to point out the ScuzzaMan (post#2) that the chirality problem has already been solved: Noorduin et al (2008) "Emergence of a Single Solid Chiral State from a Nearly Racemic Amino Acid Derivative" Science?  We don't need no stinkin' science! -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2019,08:48    Quote (rossum @ Aug. 03 2019,11:38) Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 02 2019,16:40) Latest headline on UD: Kirk Durston Offers a Scientific Method for Design Detection Someone needs to point out the ScuzzaMan (post#2) that the chirality problem has already been solved: Noorduin et al (2008) "Emergence of a Single Solid Chiral State from a Nearly Racemic Amino Acid Derivative" Science?  We don't need no stinkin' science! So god isn't ambidextrous and is gauche? That must be in the Bible ...right? Especially her Homochirality? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2019,13:10    Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 03 2019,06:48) Quote (rossum @ Aug. 03 2019,11:38)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 02 2019,16:40) Latest headline on UD: Kirk Durston Offers a Scientific Method for Design Detection Someone needs to point out the ScuzzaMan (post#2) that the chirality problem has already been solved: Noorduin et al (2008) "Emergence of a Single Solid Chiral State from a Nearly Racemic Amino Acid Derivative" Science?  We don't need no stinkin' science! So god isn't ambidextrous and is gauche? That must be in the Bible ...right? Especially her Homochirality? Sinister. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2019,13:21    Quote 1 Brother Brian August 3, 2019 at 9:57 am   Quote only man has the capacity for abstract thought,…       Except there is plenty of evidence that some animals are capable of abstract thought. Maybe not at the level of most humans, but certainly at the level of ET. 🙂             linky Edited by stevestory on Aug. 03 2019,14:23

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2019,16:42    Quote 32 Brother Brian August 3, 2019 at 2:42 pm KF, you are invoking the fallacy of consequences. If X is true the consequences are unthinkable. But what are the consequences if right and wrong is societally subjective and not objective? We could have things like slavery, institutional racism, child labour, the holocaust, abortion on demand, the persecution of homosexuals, same sex marriage, legalized spousal abuse, child sacrifice, etc. Etc. Well, guess what? We have had all of these. You may not like the consequences of right and wrong being societally subjective, but pretending that this is not true is just believing the illusion you repeatedly talk about in Plato’s cave. I prefer to acknowledge reality and strive to develop a society that is best for all. linky

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2019,19:12    If it's not subjective, who would get to decide what the rules are that everybody else would then have to follow?

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2019,01:16    Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 04 2019,03:12) If it's not subjective, who would get to decide what the rules are that everybody else would then have to follow?  :O Mr Leathers of course! WHACK WHACK WHACK -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2019,14:02    Hugh Ross is not as bright as he thinks he is:   Quote As with all mass extinction events that have occurred in the history of Earth’s life, the Pliocene-Pleistocene mass extinction event poses a serious challenge to models attempting to explain the history of Earth’s life by strictly natural means. Those wishing to read Hugh's 'logic' on this can goto here.   Be prepared for disappointment.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 04 2019,14:54    Porn lovers rejoice!  Another picture of Denyse has been published! Who's the dude with her?  Behe?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2019,08:03    Quote 4 Mimus August 4, 2019 at 10:23 pm Let’s imagine everything in your post was true, ET. None of that would change the fact ID demised, passed, bereft of research and basically an ex-movement. Would it? Oh yeah, Minus? I just checked Bio-complexity, the ID "science journal", and while technically they haven't published one single thing in 2019, if they had, you and your evolution would have been Destroyed! linky

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2019,08:34    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 05 2019,16:03) Quote 4 Mimus August 4, 2019 at 10:23 pm Let’s imagine everything in your post was true, ET. None of that would change the fact ID demised, passed, bereft of research and basically an ex-movement. Would it? Oh yeah, Minus? I just checked Bio-complexity, the ID "science journal", and while technically they haven't published one single thing in 2019, if they had, you and your evolution would have been Destroyed! linky Their cunning plan is to outsource their rhetoric  ....ur question begging to the fundy backwash at UD. It's free and has  unlimited lemmings. Jo3G is just an amatuer compared with BS77 and George Mullings of Manjack Heights Montserrat. Jeez don't put kf into ur search engine all sorts of nasties pop up. Jo3G only has fat pix George has flaming caeks. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2019,14:12    Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 05 2019,08:34)   Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 05 2019,16:03)   Quote 4 Mimus August 4, 2019 at 10:23 pm Let’s imagine everything in your post was true, ET. None of that would change the fact ID demised, passed, bereft of research and basically an ex-movement. Would it? Oh yeah, Minus? I just checked Bio-complexity, the ID "science journal", and while technically they haven't published one single thing in 2019, if they had, you and your evolution would have been Destroyed! linky Their cunning plan is to outsource their rhetoric  ....ur question begging to the fundy backwash at UD. It's free and has  unlimited lemmings. Jo3G is just an amatuer compared with BS77 and George Mullings of Manjack Heights Montserrat. Jeez don't put kf into ur search engine all sorts of nasties pop up. Jo3G only has fat pix George has flaming caeks. Ah, yes.... lemmings - vertebrates which reproduce so quickly that their population fluctuations are chaotic. mullings - vertebrates which cut-and-paste so quickly that their blog comments are chaotic.

Tony M Nyphot Posts: 491 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2019,14:35    Quote 4 Mimus August 4, 2019 at 10:23 pm Let’s imagine everything in your post was true, ET. None of that would change the fact ID demised, passed [on], bereft of research and basically an ex-movement. Would it? ID's pinin' for the fjords. Beautiful plumage. -------------- "I, OTOH, am an underachiever...I either pee my pants or faint dead away..." FTK "You could always wrap fresh fish in the paper you publish it on, though, and sell that." - Field Man on how to find value in Gary Gaulin's real-science "theory"

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 05 2019,15:34    Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Aug. 05 2019,12:35) Quote 4 Mimus August 4, 2019 at 10:23 pm Let’s imagine everything in your post was true, ET. None of that would change the fact ID demised, passed [on], bereft of research and basically an ex-movement. Would it? ID's pinin' for the fjords. Beautiful plumage. Excellent! :D  :D

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 06 2019,04:31    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 06 2019,01:03)   Quote 4 Mimus August 4, 2019 at 10:23 pm Let’s imagine everything in your post was true, ET. None of that would change the fact ID demised, passed, bereft of research and basically an ex-movement. Would it? Oh yeah, Minus? I just checked Bio-complexity, the ID "science journal", and while technically they haven't published one single thing in 2019, if they had, you and your evolution would have been Destroyed! linky Part of a comment from EricMH on that thread:     Quote The controversy over ID has diminished, and thus the traffic, but is this because ID is dead or because it has won? As I have mentioned before, at least in my in person interaction with atheists, the latter seems to be true. No one takes purposeless evolution seriously anymore, except for a few religious people who are trying to seem ‘with it’ to a few of their secular colleagues, and mass murderers and serial killers. What world do these people live in? -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 06 2019,08:37    Maybe they're swimming in that river in Egypt?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 06 2019,18:03    Quote 22 Brother Brian August 6, 2019 at 4:27 pm Eric     Quote     The controversy over ID has diminished, and thus the traffic, but is this because ID is dead or because it has won?           The journal Evolution, one of several journals for evolutionary biology, has published 93 research papers so far this year. BioComplexity, the ID flagship “peer reviewed” journal, has published zero. If evolution science didn’t stop publishing research after they became the predominant theory, why did ID stop publishing after they “won”?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 06 2019,19:36    obviously the intelligent design people are nowhere near as capable of doing research as actual biologists, who publish hundreds of papers a month, but how does ID compare to other pseudoscience? Answers Research Journal published 21 "research papers" in 2018. Bio-Craplexity published 3. Answers Research Journal has published 8 "research papers" so far in 2019. Bio-Craplexity has published 0. The ID cranks are losers even compared to other crackpots.

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,08:30    Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 06 2019,08:37) Maybe they're swimming in that river in Egypt? Are they observing the hippos? Every time a hippo doesn't evolve into a whale, it's a win for ID.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,08:34    Quote 9 Bob O'H August 7, 2019 at 1:53 am EDTA @ 5 – Quote Those with the money decide what research can get done and therefore what gets published. Correct. And the Discovery Institute is funding ID research, through the Biologic Institute. It seems to have at least 5 staff members, but their output is minimal, especially as so many are senior: from the start of 2018 they have a total of 5 articles listed on Google Scholar (found by searching for “Biologic Institute”, and then manually checking the results). I’ve published more than that myself in the same time (and I bet the Biologic Institute fellows don’t have to do a semester of teaching as well!. linky when your lead quantum mechanics researcher is BornAgain77, all the money in the world isn't going to get you any breakthroughs.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,08:39    Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 07 2019,16:30) Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 06 2019,08:37) Maybe they're swimming in that river in Egypt? Are they observing the hippos? Every time a hippo doesn't evolve into a whale, it's a win for ID. What do you call a lesbian hippopotamus? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,08:52    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 07 2019,16:34) Quote 9 Bob O'H August 7, 2019 at 1:53 am EDTA @ 5 –   Quote Those with the money decide what research can get done and therefore what gets published. Correct. And the Discovery Institute is funding ID research, through the Biologic Institute. It seems to have at least 5 staff members, but their output is minimal, especially as so many are senior: from the start of 2018 they have a total of 5 articles listed on Google Scholar (found by searching for “Biologic Institute”, and then manually checking the results). I’ve published more than that myself in the same time (and I bet the Biologic Institute fellows don’t have to do a semester of teaching as well!). linky when your lead quantum mechanics researcher is BornAgain77, all the money in the world isn't going to get you any breakthroughs.  :p BS77 puts the Pb in your grahite. Over at UD they think a cloud chamber contains dense wet drips .... -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,11:06    Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 07 2019,08:39)   Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 07 2019,16:30)   Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 06 2019,08:37) Maybe they're swimming in that river in Egypt? Are they observing the hippos? Every time a hippo doesn't evolve into a whale, it's a win for ID. What do you call a lesbian hippopotamus? How about "Sharon"?

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,11:45    Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 07 2019,11:06) Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 07 2019,08:39)   Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 07 2019,16:30)     Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 06 2019,08:37) Maybe they're swimming in that river in Egypt? Are they observing the hippos? Every time a hippo doesn't evolve into a whale, it's a win for ID. What do you call a lesbian hippopotamus? How about "Sharon"? I see what you did there :p

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,16:48    Boring UD news today. There's a new commenter named BobRyan and he's dumb as dirt. And a rare Barry sighting. News gives powerful, compelling reasons computers will never be conscious, minus the powerful and compelling part.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 07 2019,18:01    Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 07 2019,11:06)   Quote (k.e.. @ Aug. 07 2019,08:39)     Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 07 2019,16:30)       Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 06 2019,08:37) Maybe they're swimming in that river in Egypt? Are they observing the hippos? Every time a hippo doesn't evolve into a whale, it's a win for ID. What do you call a lesbian hippopotamus? How about "Sharon"?         -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

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