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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2019,14:32   

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Oh, that darn cat.

Wrong Disney film. Try The Nutty Professor. (Perhaps he wears a cardigan.)

Or in the case of Dr. Dr. D., Now You See Him, Now You Don't.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2019,16:05   

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Oh, that darn cat.

Sounds like a Shaggy Dog story to me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2019,04:08   

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Re "BornAgain77, of course, responds by being condescending, and babbling about Isaac Newton quantum mechanics and the Bible, as per usual."

He thinks Newton had quantum mechanics? ;)

No he thought Newton had Wanton mechanics as in  Newton had wantoned with a clothes horse. BigAss77 couldn't pass a Physics101 exam to save his EVEN WORSE THAN Joeg's stupid ass. They're truly a witches curse of deplorables

I was going to join the Quantum Mechanics Union but no-one could tell me if I'd paid my dues or not.

If we know if you've paid your dues, we wouldn't know who you are.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2019,19:43   

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MatSpiritSeptember 8, 2019 at 6:10 pm
News:  For example, there’s no question that modern racism was mainly informed by Darwinism.

Right on! Less than two years after Darwin published “Origins”, the US was fighting a civil war to keep slavery and the Darwinists apparently manufactured a couple of centuries of “evidence” that we’d been kidnapping blacks from Africa, transporting then across the Atlantic (with a very high “shrinkage” rate on the way) and working them to death in America.

Well, we COULDN’T have done any of that because we were a Christian nation back then and the Bible explicitly sort of … actually allows slavery. But Darwin rewrote the Bible! It didn’t use to allow slavery until Darwin came along!


hehehehehe

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 08 2019,22:14   

But, Darwin was British. How would a rewrite in Britain get exported to the U.S.?  ;)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2019,16:38   

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MatSpiritSeptember 8, 2019 at 6:10 pm
News:  For example, there’s no question that modern racism was mainly informed by Darwinism.

Right on! Less than two years after Darwin published “Origins”, the US was fighting a civil war to keep slavery and the Darwinists apparently manufactured a couple of centuries of “evidence” that we’d been kidnapping blacks from Africa, transporting then across the Atlantic (with a very high “shrinkage” rate on the way) and working them to death in America.

Well, we COULDN’T have done any of that because we were a Christian nation back then and the Bible explicitly sort of … actually allows slavery. But Darwin rewrote the Bible! It didn’t use to allow slavery until Darwin came along!


hehehehehe

Damn the creationists are stupid.

:angry:

Charles Darwin wrote in The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex (John Murray, London, 1871), "It may be doubted whether any character can be named which is distinctive of a race and is constant."

Note that this is at a time when many White Christians argued that non-Europeans were not even human!

Daly, John Patrick
2002 "When Slavery was Called Freedom: Evangelicalism, Proslavery, and the Causes of the Civil War"  University of Kentucky Press.

Edited by Dr.GH on Sep. 09 2019,14:42

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2019,17:46   

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MatSpiritSeptember 8, 2019 at 6:10 pm
News:  For example, there’s no question that modern racism was mainly informed by Darwinism.

Right on! Less than two years after Darwin published “Origins”, the US was fighting a civil war to keep slavery and the Darwinists apparently manufactured a couple of centuries of “evidence” that we’d been kidnapping blacks from Africa, transporting then across the Atlantic (with a very high “shrinkage” rate on the way) and working them to death in America.

Well, we COULDN’T have done any of that because we were a Christian nation back then and the Bible explicitly sort of … actually allows slavery. But Darwin rewrote the Bible! It didn’t use to allow slavery until Darwin came along!


hehehehehe

Damn the creationists are stupid.

:angry:

Charles Darwin wrote in The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex (John Murray, London, 1871), "It may be doubted whether any character can be named which is distinctive of a race and is constant."

Note that this is at a time when many White Christians argued that non-Europeans were not even human!

Daly, John Patrick
2002 "When Slavery was Called Freedom: Evangelicalism, Proslavery, and the Causes of the Civil War"  University of Kentucky Press.

There will now ensue a flurry of "yabut yabut modern racism."

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2019,18:20   

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MatSpiritSeptember 8, 2019 at 6:10 pm
News:  For example, there’s no question that modern racism was mainly informed by Darwinism.

Right on! Less than two years after Darwin published “Origins”, the US was fighting a civil war to keep slavery and the Darwinists apparently manufactured a couple of centuries of “evidence” that we’d been kidnapping blacks from Africa, transporting then across the Atlantic (with a very high “shrinkage” rate on the way) and working them to death in America.

Well, we COULDN’T have done any of that because we were a Christian nation back then and the Bible explicitly sort of … actually allows slavery. But Darwin rewrote the Bible! It didn’t use to allow slavery until Darwin came along!


hehehehehe

Damn the creationists are stupid.

:angry:

Charles Darwin wrote in The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex (John Murray, London, 1871), "It may be doubted whether any character can be named which is distinctive of a race and is constant."

Note that this is at a time when many White Christians argued that non-Europeans were not even human!

Daly, John Patrick
2002 "When Slavery was Called Freedom: Evangelicalism, Proslavery, and the Causes of the Civil War"  University of Kentucky Press.

There will now ensue a flurry of "yabut yabut modern racism."

There was no racism among Christians before Darwin came along. They were just all real tolerant, open-minded, colorblind people. Like that 1543 book by Martin Luther, "On the Jews and Their Lies Yummy Latke!"

Edited by stevestory on Sep. 09 2019,19:21

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2019,19:31   

DR.GH:
Daly, John Patrick 2002 "When Slavery was Called Freedom: Evangelicalism, Proslavery, and the Causes of the Civil War"  University of Kentucky Press. 

On order from Amazon.  Thanks!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2019,22:13   

Ooops: cue BA complaining to Barry about BB in 3, 2, 1...


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The bigger question is why your loving god would let hundreds of millions die, and more suffer, because he is so incompetent at getting his objective morality across to us. The way I see it, your god could use a dose of Viagra. If he is not able to get it up, then we have to rise to the occasion and take ownership and accountability of our own morality.


Link

POTW at UD, I think.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2019,22:37   

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DR.GH:
Daly, John Patrick 2002 "When Slavery was Called Freedom: Evangelicalism, Proslavery, and the Causes of the Civil War"  University of Kentucky Press. 

On order from Amazon.  Thanks!

I hope you enjoy it. I did.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2019,22:39   

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Ooops: cue BA complaining to Barry about BB in 3, 2, 1...

Link

POTW at UD, I think.

Good call.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2019,02:33   

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Ooops: cue BA complaining to Barry about BB in 3, 2, 1...


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The bigger question is why your loving god would let hundreds of millions die, and more suffer, because he is so incompetent at getting his objective morality across to us. The way I see it, your god could use a dose of Viagra. If he is not able to get it up, then we have to rise to the occasion and take ownership and accountability of our own morality.


Link

POTW at UD, I think.

The whole comment is wonderful.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2019,08:55   

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Ooops: cue BA complaining to Barry about BB in 3, 2, 1...


 
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The bigger question is why your loving god would let hundreds of millions die, and more suffer, because he is so incompetent at getting his objective morality across to us. The way I see it, your god could use a dose of Viagra. If he is not able to get it up, then we have to rise to the occasion and take ownership and accountability of our own morality.


Link

POTW at UD, I think.

The whole comment is wonderful.

Stop, I just can't handle all the SCIENCE!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2019,09:05   

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Ooops: cue BA complaining to Barry about BB in 3, 2, 1...


   
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The bigger question is why your loving god would let hundreds of millions die, and more suffer, because he is so incompetent at getting his objective morality across to us. The way I see it, your god could use a dose of Viagra. If he is not able to get it up, then we have to rise to the occasion and take ownership and accountability of our own morality.


Link

POTW at UD, I think.

The whole comment is wonderful.

Stop, I just can't handle all the SCIENCE!!

UD's Three Stooges all paused their revolutionary and groundbreaking lab work to reply. :-)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2019,11:48   

I could not read that total nonsense to the end.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2019,10:00   

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I could not read that total nonsense to the end.

Of course, it's not "The End", merely the end of today's episode.

"This is the continuing story of Arrington's Place - based on the novel by Grace Malicious."

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2019,10:27   

Maybe it should be called "As the Stomach Turns".

Oh wait, that's been taken.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2019,15:38   

Search For Relevance?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2019,15:39   

General Horse-Spittle?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,14:31   

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September 12, 2019 at 3:39 am
BB,

you obviously have no interest in recognising the hardness of heart principle (which, ironically, respects our collective freedom), and the linked principles that law must be enforceable through significant social consensus, which can move across time due to heart softening and reform. I note this for record, and I point out the implication of the cultural marxism, oppression thesis and clear agenda on your part to impose currently fashionable perversities: such radical revolutionism has a terrible track record of reigns of terror, as the alternative to gradual reform is not waving magic wands, it is revolutionary chaos and reigns of terror.

The Scriptures advocate a different (and repeatedly successful) model: in a world of finite, fallible, morally fallen and struggling, too often hard hearted and ill-willed creatures, one regulates and ameliorates towards reform as men’s hearts are softened and as minds and consciences are soundly informed. In that context, indenture and even enslavement with regulation are survivable (and in extremis, function as a survival safety net of last resort in a world where there is not the wealth base to erect that welfare state that is the silent premise in many arguments on this or similar matters [in short, lack of historically informed economic awareness is part of the problem] . . . something already evident in Genesis with the story of the seven years regional famine — opening up the onward inherent abusiveness seen in Exodus); by contrast a system of ideas and schemes under false colour of law that in 40+ years has managed to so pervert law that we have a genocide of living posterity in the womb that mounts up at a million further victims per week (and 800+ millions since the ’70’s) manifestly marks a demonically dark, bloodily destructive age. Where in the past 100 or so years, just counting the already born, radical revolutionary terrors have murdered over 100 millions.

That is the record of history.

Given that effective choice, the prudent person will heed the counsel of Paul in Philemon every time, instead of listening to the rhetoric of the heirs of Robespierre.

Second, as we have long since corrected your obsessions with sliding into the sewer, we simply note the fact of your obvious, ruinous agenda. Already, we can see the revolutionary chaos and confusion it is opening up. Not even little girls going to the bathroom are safe. That is a foreshadowing of what is to come if such radicalism prevails again.

Finally, it is obvious in this light that you are insistent on an agenda that refuses to attend to what the OP raises. Why is that?

Because, the moral principles of the Bible stand in the way of where you and your ilk want to take our civilisation: Nero-666-Rom 1 chaos. So, you will bend every rhetorical sinew, wrench scripture heedless of any balance or correction, dismiss the actual demonstrated heritage of contribution to reform and freedom in a race to Sodom on the Tiber, or the Hudson, or the Thames or the Seine, or the Hope, or whatever other place.

We simply note the demonic chaos you would heedlessly set loose, and recognise it for what it is.

In answer, we start yet again from basics: even your implicit attempt to persuade us that we OUGHT to dismiss the Christian Faith and its Scriptures pivots on our intellectual life being morally governed in a world that is morally founded.

No worldviews are viable that do not successfully bridge the IS-OUGHT gap at world root level.

This, specifically, includes evolutionary materialism as was exposed 2350+ years ago by Plato, as the OP highlights . . . and which, of course you predictably studiously ignore in haste to try to discredit what you oppose.

Thus, there must be a root to the world adequate to sustain creatures inescapably morally governed by duties to truth, to right reason, to prudence [so, warrant and so reform rather than chaos], sound conscience, justice etc.

(Where, duty to justice, duly enlightened, is precisely the pivot used by Paul in addressing oppressive inequalities in Philemon. But so blind are you that you refuse to register or respond with due regard to what we are dealing with in this short epistle. The charter of human freedom in our civilisation, the original — but too often unrecognised — charter of civil rights. With a proved track record, twice, of opening up culture transforming reformation. That is how it is no accident, that the motto of the Antislavery Society comes from this text. It is that unyielding, blind, ruthless, radical unreasonableness and unresponsiveness on your part that is utterly telling and it is duly noted. Where, we also point to a text in the infographic in the OP that highlights: “1 Cor 7:20 Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called. 21 Were you a bondservant[d] when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.)” The implications are obvious . . . so obvious that the slaves who rose up in the 1831 Baptist War in Jamaica pointed out that they could see it for themselves . . . and even though the dissenter missionaries opposed ill-advised uprisings through the prudence advocated here [they hoped that reform would come from London where fellow dissenters were in the vanguard of abolitionism], and that those trying to use “you fundies support slavery” [yes, we can read subtext, thank you] as a rhetorical club repeatedly ignore this text jointly speak volumes on their wanton disregard for truth, prudence — directly counselled in the text! — and fair mindedness. All of which are big, bright red flags.)

We can cut to the chase scene: there is precisely one serious necessary being world-root option that answers to the IS-OUGHT gap: the inherently good, utterly wise creator God, a necessary and maximally great being. One, worthy of our loyalty and of the reasonable, responsible, honourable service of doing the good that accords with our manifest nature. I freely say this after years of the unanswered comparative difficulties challenge to provide another alternative under comparative difficulties: ___ (I predict, on that track record, that you will yet again seek to evade this while rhetorically sitting in God’s lap to try to strike his face.)

Until you provide a serious root for morality independent of God, we need not take attempts to argue against God, theism and linked traditions seriously. They become parasitical attempts to saw off the branch on which we all must sit. Or, to poison the well we all must drink from. Manifestations of potentially ruinous misanthropy.

Now, we can go further, noting that the pivot of the Judaeo Christian tradition of ethical theism is the gospel, in the context of the fulfillment of the prophecies of the Hebraic Scriptures. In the words of St Peter, on the eve of being crucified by the demonic, perverted mad man and dictator for life, Nero, on a manifestly false charge of being ringleader of treasonous arson against Rome [and in order to deflect suspicions that pointed fingers to Nero due to his increasingly obvious chaotic tendencies], we hear:

2 Peter 1:16 For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty . . .

19 And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation.

21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

(Those interested in seriously examining the underlying facts are invited to go here on.)

KF

Can someone please translate for me.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,15:07   

How about this bit of brilliant logic from kf:

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Over the years, many millions have met and been transformed through meeting God in the face of Christ. This includes countless Jamaicans [and many other people across the Caribbean]. It also includes many famed scholars, eminent scientists and leaders of powerful reformations. Logically, if just one of these millions has actually been reconciled with God through Christ, God must be real and the gospel must be true. (Where, if instead so many are deeply delusional, that would undermine the rational credibility of the human mind.)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,15:11   

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How about this bit of brilliant logic from kf:

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Over the years, many millions have met and been transformed through meeting God in the face of Christ. This includes countless Jamaicans [and many other people across the Caribbean]. It also includes many famed scholars, eminent scientists and leaders of powerful reformations. Logically, if just one of these millions has actually been reconciled with God through Christ, God must be real and the gospel must be true. (Where, if instead so many are deeply delusional, that would undermine the rational credibility of the human mind.)

I think the rational credibility of KF's mind was undermined many years ago.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,16:01   

Who can keep up with all this groundbreaking science?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,16:03   

People say that intelligent design supporters are just creationists under a new fake name, but I certainly don't see any evidence of that!

okay now back to BornAgain77's post about how Muslims are all wrong...

:D  :)  :p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,17:07   

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BB, your ability to repeatedly type a false, corrected accusation in the teeth of its direct correction (including here the text of an entire book of the Bible with highly relevant known historical impact) does not constitute addressing the substance, Instead, you are indulging the fallacy of doubling down on error. Thanks for giving us due warning on your attitude and — by repeated resort to corrected fallacy — for confirming to us that you as a known evolutionary materialist, have no objective, world-root basis for bridging IS and OUGHT; thus, no foundation for objectivity of morality or justice, forcing you in the end into the nihilist’s principle, appeal to might and manipulation to make ‘truth’ ‘right’ ‘rights’ ‘justice’ and ‘law’ — a warning sign if ever there was one. So, we may freely infer that you seek to manipulate by refusing to address the trajectory of the text, refusing to engage with the challenges of amelioration and reform (which already puts you and ilk in the Misanthrope camp of Robespierre et al), and resorting to loaded emotive appeals that rely on trying to paint the Christian Faith and its scriptures in the worst light you can as it is obviously a barrier to the sewer agenda you have shown yourself obsessed with. I suggest to you, you would be well advised to reconsider where you would lead our civilisation. KF

That man needs to learn about punctuation and sentence structure.

  
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BB,

[...]

KF

Can someone please translate for me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,21:28   

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BB, your comment inadvertently speaks for itself; starting with basic disrespect as you full well know that I am a Caribbean person of tricontinental ancestry.
   
   
Your ego precedes you. I have no idea what your ancestry is. And, frankly, I don’t care.
 
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Notice, here, that Commonwealth armed forces included many volunteers from colonies in both world wars, literally from India to the West Indies.    


And they also included conscripted “volunteers”. But don’t underestimate the promise of three squares a day to many of these indigenous peoples. There is a reason why many of the “volunteers” came from the poorest of society.
   
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I side with firemen who went into the Towers even as civilians were being shepherded out.    
   

As do I. They, and all the other first responders deserve our utmost respect.

But I also side with the small population of Gander Newfoundland who took thousands of American citizens into their houses, without question or demands, because their planes were forced to land in this WWII transit point.
     
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Your problem is…
     
     
Sorry, but when anyone starts a sentence with “your problem is”, I know they have nothing of value to listen to. I will but my moral values (atheist though they may be) up against yours any day, and twice on Tuesday. The difference between you and I is that I don’t pre-judge based on religion or world view. I accept that homosexuals are entitled to the benefits that I, as a heterosexual, have. I accept that I, as a man, can’t dictate what a woman does with her body. I accept that a Jew or Muslim is entitled to worship as they see fit as long as they don’t break any laws (Christians, as well). I accept that people (and children) are entitled to be given accurate information. I accept that my sexual mores should not be imposed on others, as long as those involved are of consenting age. I accept that people shouldn’t be allowed to use “freedom of religion” to discriminate against others.




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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 12 2019,22:08   

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BA77

So BB basically prefers hedonistic morality of pleasure seeking and simple self gratification over the morality that is based on the much higher noble purposes of God.


No, I prefer not to play the pompous, self righteous judgmental A-hole. But don’t let me stop you from filling that role.


Cue Batshit running and screaming to Barry for Brother Brian's bannination.   :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2019,07:52   

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At The Conversation: Why DO astronomers believe dark matter exists?  
   
Is dark matter the Higgs boson, hard to find but eventually found, or the ether, once believed to pervade the universe? If twenty years pass with no dark matter, unfortunately, the needle will tilt a bit more toward the ether.

Posted on September 12, 2019 AuthorNews Comments(2)


The Higgs boson was predicted in 1964. It wasn't confirmed experimentally until 2012, 48 years later.

Hard to believe intelligent design failed with these geniuses in charge.

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