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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 29 2012,22:57   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 29 2012,21:14)
I know thqat Doug Axe dabbled a bit in modifying coding sequences, but has anyone ever proven that any protein coding sequence cannot tolerate change?

I'm not an expert, but my understanding is that there are many AA substitutions that can be made without really changing the protein.

Now a change to the active site itself, that would be bad, but much of the protein is just there to make sure the shape is correct.  In places you could replace a hydrophobic AA with any hydrophobic AA and there would be effectively no difference in the function of the protein (or hydrophilic, or whatever else).

That was the common understanding when I was taking these kinds of classes some 20 odd years ago.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 29 2012,23:37   

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,00:44   

... so...

What, exactly, is the "information" in a 100aa protein?  What is its "meaning"?

I concur with OgreMkV: what the fuck use is it?

Even if you think it means "this wuz deezynd!", so what?

Then what do you do with it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,02:04   

Quote (fnxtr @ Feb. 29 2012,22:44)
... so...

What, exactly, is the "information" in a 100aa protein?  What is its "meaning"?

I concur with OgreMkV: what the fuck use is it?

Even if you think it means "this wuz deezynd!", so what?

Then what do you do with it?

Good questions.

And I have another one for joe. Hey joe, I was playing cards in the woods with a Bigfoot buddy of mine the other night and asked him for his favorite cake recipe. Here's what Og (that's his name) told me:

a big handful of old fir bark, pulverized with a big rock
6 medium sized oak leaves, slightly chewed by polyphemus moth caterpillars
two ruddy duck eggs, including the shells
a small clay pot of cow parsnip root, finely chopped with a stone knife
30 fermented snowberrries
four regurgitated cherry seeds, cracked open
a big mouthful of creek water
a pinch of muskrat musk
a pinch of dried deer snot
a pinch of cougar scat
a pinch of sand, for more texture
one fresh owl pellet

mix all ingredients well, with a small maple branch, in a granite mixing bowl, and then cook over a medium hot fire in a basalt cooking bowl for the length of time that it takes to have wild Bigfoot sex with the ol' lady, but don't spend too much time on the foreplay. Remove cooking bowl from the fire and let cool while having another romp with the ol' lady. Then, eat cake from bowl with fingers.

So, joe, how much CSI is there in that cake?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,03:25   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 29 2012,21:14)
I know that Doug Axe dabbled a bit in modifying coding sequences, but has anyone ever proven that any protein coding sequence cannot tolerate change?

There are 64 different codons (AAA, AAC, AAG, … TTC, TTG, TTT), which code for 20 different amino acids (alanine through valine). Therefore, one would expect that at least a few amino acids are coded for by more than one of the available 64 codons. And one would be correct to expect such.

Coded for by 6 (six) distinct codons: Arginine, Leucine, Serine
Coded for by 4 (four) distinct codons: Alanine, Glycine, Proline, Threonine, Valine
Coded for by 3 (three) distinct codons: Isoleucine
Coded for by 2 (two) distinct codons: Asparagine, Aspartic acid, Cysteine, Glutamic acid, Glutamine, Histidine, Lysine, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine
Coded for by exactly 1 (one) distinct codon: Methionine, Tryptophan
There are also the three 'stop' codons (UAA, UAG, and UGA), which mark the end of a coding sequence; I mention them so nobody will get the idea that I can't add…
But I digress.


If a protein contains exactly one Leucine amino acid, there must be a minimum of six distinct coding sequences which will yield exactly & precisely that specific protein. I say "must" because, even if you assume the entire rest of the sequence yields a single unique result, the bit of the sequence which yields the Leucine could be any of 6 (six) distinct codons, namely, UUA; UUG; CUU; CUC; CUA; and CUG. And of course, all save two of the other amino acids (that pair being Methionine and Tryptophan) are coded for by 2+ distinct codons.
So if you want to know how many different nucleotide sequences are physically capable of yielding a given protein, count up each of the individual amino acids in that protein. Let A = the number of Alanines in the protein; C, the number of Cysteines; D, the number of Aspartic acids; E, Glutamic acids; F, Phenylalanines; G, Glycines; H, Histidines; I, Isoleucines; K, Lysines; L, Leucines; M, Methionines; N, Asparagines; P, Prolines; Q, Glutamines; R, Arginines; S, Serines; T, Threonines; V, Valines; W, Tryptophans; and Y, Tyrosines… and plug those values into this equation:
Number of sequences = 6^(L+R+S) * 4^(A+G+P+T+V) * 3^(I) * 2^(C+D+E+F+H+K+N+Q+Y)
For any protein which does not consist entirely of Methionine and Tryptophan, this calculation will yield a number of possible sequences which is appreciably greater than 1 (one). Hence, the vast majority of protein coding sequences must be able to tolerate some degree of change.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,05:47   

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For any protein which does not consist entirely of Methionine and Tryptophan, this calculation will yield a number of possible sequences which is appreciably greater than 1 (one). Hence, the vast majority of protein coding sequences must be able to tolerate some degree of change.


Interestingly, the most universally conserved sequences are not 'complex' things like enzymes, but structural proteins - eg histones. They are pretty short, and their conservation appears to be due to the very tight 'specification' of a nucleosome - a packaging unit of eukaryotic DNA. You can't fuck about with such low-level stuff without completely disabling the organism - it would be like deciding that your parity bit is 1 instead of 8, or something. System crash. It's probably circumstantial, rather than something inherently essential about one particular sequence. It may well be that early nucleosomes were not as picky on sequence, but once one became embedded in eukaryotic DNA management, it became constrained.

But enzymes - no trouble. The active site is usually pretty specific, but the binding sites less so - they need to distinguish substrate or cofactor from 'foreign body' - it's like a wire-frame model, and there is almost certain to be more than one sequence that will give the necessary specificity (or better). And the rest of the molecule, again, just another 'wire frame' that holds everything else in place.  

But Joe - 'Shannon information' in a molecule? FFS! How come only polymers can have it? What's the CSI of H2O? Couldn't be anything to do with a completely misplaced analogy between comms strings and DNA base/amino acid strings, perchance?

Edited by Soapy Sam on Mar. 01 2012,05:55

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,06:50   

Back in the early 1990s, I ran through the codon to amino acid translation table. The proportion of single-base changes that results in exactly the same amino acid being produced is about 20%. That doesn't take into account codon bias and what-not, but it is a starting point for discussing neutral changes.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,07:00   

Pardon my ignorance, but I see gpuccio running around unopposed claiming that protein coding sequences are long, irreducible, and unalterable. This seems ripe for a discussion somewhere.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,07:34   

i'm sure joe's thread at TSZ would be a great place, he loves to discuss science and to share from his broad broad base of knowledge and experience.

amirite?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,07:57   

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Pardon my ignorance, but I see gpuccio running around unopposed claiming that protein coding sequences are long, irreducible, and unalterable. This seems ripe for a discussion somewhere.



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,08:24   

Flounceout in 3...2...1...

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Elizabeth-

I am done with this thread as now the topic has been totally abandoned and it has become painfully obvious that most evos don't understand the OP and are afraid to actually address it.

If I am not going to get answers to my off-toic questions I don't see any reason to answer other people's off-topic questions.

I can start another thread for GAs, if you like- but only after Tiktaalik...


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,08:32   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 29 2012,15:50)
   
Quote (blipey @ Feb. 29 2012,17:49)
While you're here, Joe, could you calculate the CSI of something?  Anything will do.

I have asshole and I even showed you ...

and I even  ...  fuck up.

Joe tells truth!

ETA:  John W beats me ... punch.  Great minds think ...

Edited by sledgehammer on Mar. 01 2012,06:40

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,09:08   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Mar. 01 2012,05:47)
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For any protein which does not consist entirely of Methionine and Tryptophan, this calculation will yield a number of possible sequences which is appreciably greater than 1 (one). Hence, the vast majority of protein coding sequences must be able to tolerate some degree of change.


Interestingly, the most universally conserved sequences are not 'complex' things like enzymes, but structural proteins - eg histones. They are pretty short, and their conservation appears to be due to the very tight 'specification' of a nucleosome - a packaging unit of eukaryotic DNA. You can't fuck about with such low-level stuff without completely disabling the organism - it would be like deciding that your parity bit is 1 instead of 8, or something. System crash. It's probably circumstantial, rather than something inherently essential about one particular sequence. It may well be that early nucleosomes were not as picky on sequence, but once one became embedded in eukaryotic DNA management, it became constrained.

But enzymes - no trouble. The active site is usually pretty specific, but the binding sites less so - they need to distinguish substrate or cofactor from 'foreign body' - it's like a wire-frame model, and there is almost certain to be more than one sequence that will give the necessary specificity (or better). And the rest of the molecule, again, just another 'wire frame' that holds everything else in place.  

But Joe - 'Shannon information' in a molecule? FFS! How come only polymers can have it? What's the CSI of H2O? Couldn't be anything to do with a completely misplaced analogy between comms strings and DNA base/amino acid strings, perchance?

All of which is just additional evidence that common descent works.

If, there are multiple histones, then it would be much less probable that all organisms only use one particular one.  

This brings up another really useful point that Joe and the other IDiots always seem to miss.  Proteins, enzymes, etc are not yes/no.  They are not either working correctly or totally broken.  There can be a huge range of ability.

In Darwinian Evolution on a Chip, Gerald Joyce shows that RNA enzymes can, by stepwise evolution, increase the catalyzation efficiency 90 fold.  

What's really interesting is that one particular mutation, when taken by itself, resulted in a halving of the efficiency, but when combined with another mutation, resulted in a 2-4 fold improvement.  So even though it was a negative mutation, it was a potentiating mutation that resulted in a huge increase.

Finally, this paper also neatly destroys Behe's claims of x number of mutations not being possible.  Over the course of the experiment, which only ran for 3 days, 11 mutations, most of which were in 4 major mutation groups, occurred resulting in the huge increase in efficiency.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,09:29   

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In Darwinian Evolution on a Chip, Gerald Joyce shows that RNA enzymes can, by stepwise evolution, increase the catalyzation efficiency 90 fold.  




Turn those machines off! Behe and Axe, pictured.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,09:39   

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In Darwinian Evolution on a Chip, Gerald Joyce shows that RNA enzymes can, by stepwise evolution, increase the catalyzation efficiency 90 fold.  




Turn those machines off! Behe and Axe, pictured.

Well, that's on my reading list now.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,09:39   

http://www.plosbiology.org/article....0060085

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,09:54   

Hey, Joe, what's the albedo of an orange? That information is about as useful as your CSI.

Too funny.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,10:00   

Rich, I absolutely love that paper.  It crushes Joe and Behe completely.  I reference it all the time.

The standard comebacks are:
It's still an RNA enzyme
It's a designed experiment
The mutations didn't happen all at once


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At least the albedo of an orange is measurable, unlike CSI.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,10:08   

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2011....5952101

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Joe GNov 12, 2011 06:28 PM
BTW, Joseph, or Joe G, is a field service engineer.

I was- but then again I was also a research scientist, a technical specialist, a sustaining engineer, a R&D engineer and a debug technician.

I chose technology because science is shit without it- might as well be philosphy.

We get results as opposed to theoretical musings about past events.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,10:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 01 2012,10:08)
http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2011.......5952101

 
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Joe GNov 12, 2011 06:28 PM
BTW, Joseph, or Joe G, is a field service engineer.

I was- but then again I was also a research scientist, a technical specialist, a sustaining engineer, a R&D engineer and a debug technician.

I chose technology because science is shit without it- might as well be philosphy.

We get results as opposed to theoretical musings about past events.

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Research scientist = studied ticks on watermelons in his basement

debug technician = troubleshot bad toasters

sustaining engineer = ordered part to fix toasters

R&D engineer = used a paper clip when couldn't get the correct toaster part.

He left out the part where he's an expert who worked on genetic algorithms for cryptology too.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,11:26   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 01 2012,08:38)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 01 2012,10:08)
http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2011.......5952101

 
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Joe GNov 12, 2011 06:28 PM
BTW, Joseph, or Joe G, is a field service engineer.

I was- but then again I was also a research scientist, a technical specialist, a sustaining engineer, a R&D engineer and a debug technician.

I chose technology because science is shit without it- might as well be philosphy.

We get results as opposed to theoretical musings about past events.

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Research scientist = studied ticks on watermelons in his basement

debug technician = troubleshot bad toasters

sustaining engineer = ordered part to fix toasters

R&D engineer = used a paper clip when couldn't get the correct toaster part.

He left out the part where he's an expert who worked on genetic algorithms for cryptology too.

He also left out "educator" - his groundbreaking series of Theistic Awareness of Research Days.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,11:29   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 29 2012,22:57)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 29 2012,21:14)
I know thqat Doug Axe dabbled a bit in modifying coding sequences, but has anyone ever proven that any protein coding sequence cannot tolerate change?

I'm not an expert, but my understanding is that there are many AA substitutions that can be made without really changing the protein.

Now a change to the active site itself, that would be bad, but much of the protein is just there to make sure the shape is correct.  In places you could replace a hydrophobic AA with any hydrophobic AA and there would be effectively no difference in the function of the protein (or hydrophilic, or whatever else).

That was the common understanding when I was taking these kinds of classes some 20 odd years ago.

Changes to the active site of an enzyme?

Not necessarily that bad

And yes, I put that up at UD, where it was comprehensively ignored

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,11:30   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 01 2012,09:39)
http://www.plosbiology.org/article....0060085

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,14:28   

It just gets better. Over at TSZ Joe looks t have his CAEK and eat it, but not count it.

Both His front loaded GA and genetic entropy are legit. The GA doesn't succumb to genetic entropy..because some mysterious agency is protecting it!

Right up there with DaveTard's praying marines.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,14:37   

Joe is getting just hammered at TSZ and is on the verge of tears.

His demand that Lizzie give him deleting / banning privileges went over like a turd in the punchbowl. Now he's whining like a little girl about 'staying on topic' when he himself raised the issues of GAS and genetic entropy.

Too funny!

:D  :D  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,14:39   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 01 2012,14:37)
Joe is getting just hammered at TSZ and is on the verge of tears.

His demand that Lizzie give him deleting / banning privileges went over like a turd in the punchbowl. Now he's whining like a little girl about 'staying on topic' when he himself raised the issues of GAS and genetic entropy.

Too funny!

:D  :D  :D

Agreed, but i think it was me that raised genetic entropy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,14:51   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 01 2012,14:37)
Joe is getting just hammered at TSZ and is on the verge of tears.

His demand that Lizzie give him deleting / banning privileges went over like a turd in the punchbowl. Now he's whining like a little girl about 'staying on topic' when he himself raised the issues of GAS and genetic entropy.

Too funny!

:D  :D  :D

That whole thread is pretty funny. In one sense I see why UD is so "liberal" in their banninations. If they didn't this sort of creogasmic meltdown would happen in just about every thread.

I think it has been an interesting experiment in putting the ID in a petri dish and given it a rich medium in which to grow.

Perhaps it is time to cauterize the dish, cast it in lucite, and leave it on display as a warning.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,15:07   

Quote (utidjian @ Mar. 01 2012,12:51)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Mar. 01 2012,14:37)
Joe is getting just hammered at TSZ and is on the verge of tears.

His demand that Lizzie give him deleting / banning privileges went over like a turd in the punchbowl. Now he's whining like a little girl about 'staying on topic' when he himself raised the issues of GAS and genetic entropy.

Too funny!

:D  :D  :D

That whole thread is pretty funny. In one sense I see why UD is so "liberal" in their banninations. If they didn't this sort of creogasmic meltdown would happen in just about every thread.

I think it has been an interesting experiment in putting the ID in a petri dish and given it a rich medium in which to grow.

Perhaps it is time to cauterize the dish, cast it in lucite, and leave it on display as a warning.

It's interesting, when exposed to criticism without the banhammer, how quickly the sciency veil falls away to reveal full-bush YEC.

I don't know how representative a sample Joe is - he seems even dumber and less educated than the average UDer - but I hope Lizzie can persuade a few more victims guest contributors to come over from UD to repeat the experiment.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,15:29   

The thread is being closed, the tard bottled.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 01 2012,17:09   

what a hilarious read.  

Joetard you sure showed them!!!  ROFLMAO

a full 1/3 of the Guano is joetard

that is what you call affirmative action

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