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|Quote (stevestory @ July 05 2019,10:07)|
Brother Brian July 4, 2019 at 8:41 pm
Perhaps, it escaped your notice that there were dozens of eyewitnesses to the relevant event, many of whom are still here four years later?
None of which have come forth to give us testimony here. This is what we have:
1) you honestly believe that you witnessed a demonic possession that resulted in levitation.
2) there were a dozen other people present when you witnessed this.
3) none of these witnesses have provided independent testimony. All we have is your assertion that they saw exactly what you saw and believe as you do.
4) we know that eyewitness testimony is incredibly unreliable.
5) so, what we have is one eyewitness account, not thirteen.
This reminds me of another claim that you have made. The one about there being 500 witnesses to Christ’s resurrection. When, in fact, there is only one main account of the 500 witnesses, by one person, written approximately 20 years after his death. That is one account, not 500. Now, that one account may be completely accurate, as yours may be, but it gains no more credence by saying there were a dozen other witnesses or 500, unless you can present twelve independent accounts (preferably documented) or 500, all you have is a single account.
So, both accounts, have the same credibility (or less) than the eyewitness accounts of alien abduction. Alien abductions, by the way, have been claimed and documented by over a dozen people. Over a dozen independent and independently documented accounts. Unless you are willing to give the veracity of alien abduction equal credence than the veracity of your levitation account, then you are the one being selectively hyperskeptical.
Brother Brian July 4, 2019 at 9:28 pm
SA, I have not read any books on demonic possession or exorcism, other than fiction. I also have not read any books on zombies, angels and witches, other than fiction. In this case I think the burden of proof is on those who claim that demonic possession is real, not on those who don’t. So far, all KF has presented is that a person held down by the pelvis raised his torso. And 12 other anonymous people saw this miraculous event. And nobody took video (exorcism porn). Not exactly a compelling testimony.
The question I have is how do you distinguish between mental illness, which afflicts a significant portion of humanity, and demonic possession?
If the only tool you've got is an exorcist, all your problems tend to look like demons.