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IanBrown_101



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:33   

Out of curiosity, and not particularly relevant to the thread as a whole.

1. How did you find here super?

2. Do you hate atheists, or do you just think they are wrong? There's a big difference, someone like Wes thinks atheists are, if only with their lack of belief, wrong, but don't hate us.
On the other hand, someone who considers atheists evil, or wicked AS A WHOLE, hates atheists.

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I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest.

You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK

Roddenberry is my God.

   
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:33   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,17:29)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 18 2007,09:25)
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This would make sense from a Biblical perspective. Remember how it was that Adam and Eve walked and talked in the Garden with God? I believe Adam and Eve were probably created perfectly and designed to live forever….it was only after sin entered that they Spiritually began to degenerate...and this process continues today.


Why is it you fundies have such a hangup about sex?

It's like you are trapped permanently in the birth canal.

everyone has hangups with sex....we "fundies" just don't do it with animals and with members of our own gender like others in society.

..until you get caught.

lol...good one.

Take no notice of him spectator sport he's a complete prima donna.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:34   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:29)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 18 2007,09:25)
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,06:52)
 
Quote (k.e @ Sep. 18 2007,02:30)
 
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This would make sense from a Biblical perspective. Remember how it was that Adam and Eve walked and talked in the Garden with God? I believe Adam and Eve were probably created perfectly and designed to live forever….it was only after sin entered that they Spiritually began to degenerate...and this process continues today.


Why is it you fundies have such a hangup about sex?

It's like you are trapped permanently in the birth canal.

everyone has hangups with sex....we "fundies" just don't do it with animals and with members of our own gender like others in society.

..until you get caught.

lol...good one.

funny thing about all that Sexual stuff is that people like Ted Haggart must not really believe in god at all.

After all, it's not like god's going to "catch" you is it? Ted must have known that god knew what he was up to straight away yet did it anyway.

So, he cannot really believe in god after all. If you did, why would you put in peril your immortal sole for a bit of crack-rock?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:35   

Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 18 2007,09:33)
Out of curiosity, and not particularly relevant to the thread as a whole.

1. How did you find here super?

2. Do you hate atheists, or do you just think they are wrong? There's a big difference, someone like Wes thinks atheists are, if only with their lack of belief, wrong, but don't hate us.
On the other hand, someone who considers atheists evil, or wicked AS A WHOLE, hates atheists.

I was browsing over at Brainstorms and saw a mention of this place.  I had never heard of it.  I'm glad I found it though...you guys are a riot.

No, I don't hate atheists....I used to be an unbeliever at one time myself.

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:35   

Hi Supersport.

ERVs?

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

have fun!


Ps, are you an engineer?

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
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"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:36   

Super, the next step is to start collecting the Q+A and note

a) the questions you have answered, what the answers were

b) the questions you are ignoring.

It'll make a funny reference document and this forum is well linked to so it'll float to the top of google eventually..

So, stop now or regret it for a long time to come. your dissembling and avoidance will be on display for all comers to see. Is that what you really want?

About those creationist geologists....

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:37   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:35)
Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 18 2007,09:33)
Out of curiosity, and not particularly relevant to the thread as a whole.

1. How did you find here super?

2. Do you hate atheists, or do you just think they are wrong? There's a big difference, someone like Wes thinks atheists are, if only with their lack of belief, wrong, but don't hate us.
On the other hand, someone who considers atheists evil, or wicked AS A WHOLE, hates atheists.

I was browsing over at Brainstorms and saw a mention of this place.  I had never heard of it.  I'm glad I found it though...you guys are a riot.

No, I don't hate atheists....I used to be an unbeliever at one time myself.

Do you hate those creationist YEC geologists who went out to prove a young earth but returned having proved a old old earth?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 18 2007,09:35)
Hi Supersport.

ERVs?

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

have fun!


Ps, are you an engineer?

that dude would make a great politician, lawyer or used car salesman.

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:40   

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I think some scientists claim to be Christians on debate forums so they can better fool people (Christians) or lull them into believing that they're getting the truth.

These turkeys don't fool me though.


Gobble gobble eh? StuporSnort.

quoting oldmanintheskydidntdoit:
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funny thing about all that Sexual stuff is that people like Ted Haggart must not really believe in god at all.

After all, it's not like god's going to "catch" you is it? Ted must have known that god knew what he was up to straight away yet did it anyway.

So, he cannot really believe in god after all. If you did, why would you put in peril your immortal sole for a bit of crack-rock?


Crap oldmanintheskydidntdoit haven't you heard?

GOD'S GAY HE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING ALL THE TIME.


Sheeeeesh!!!!

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:42   

so if chimps and humans are so close genetically, why do we look so different -- and what makes us different?  Have you ever noticed that not one single piece of anatomy looks like the other?  Sure both humans and chimps share the same types of body parts, but none of them look the same at all.....why would this be?  Why would mutations + selection change a creature, yet not change a creature?

  
IanBrown_101



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:43   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,15:35)
Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 18 2007,09:33)
Out of curiosity, and not particularly relevant to the thread as a whole.

1. How did you find here super?

2. Do you hate atheists, or do you just think they are wrong? There's a big difference, someone like Wes thinks atheists are, if only with their lack of belief, wrong, but don't hate us.
On the other hand, someone who considers atheists evil, or wicked AS A WHOLE, hates atheists.

I was browsing over at Brainstorms and saw a mention of this place.  I had never heard of it.  I'm glad I found it though...you guys are a riot.

No, I don't hate atheists....I used to be an unbeliever at one time myself.

Really? Is this not you then?

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"What happened to the happy-go-lucky, peace-loving athiest? The reality is atheists are dreadfully miserable, foul-mouthed individuals....Truly the pond scum of society


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I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest.

You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK

Roddenberry is my God.

   
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:44   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,17:42)
so if chimps and humans are so close genetically, why do we look so different -- and what makes us different?  Have you ever noticed that not one single piece of anatomy looks like the other?  Sure both humans and chimps share the same types of body parts, but none of them look the same at all.....why would this be?  Why would mutations change a creature, yet not change a creature?

Ah sorry to be the bearer of bad news SS


BUT NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK!

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:44   

Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 18 2007,09:43)
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,15:35)
Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 18 2007,09:33)
Out of curiosity, and not particularly relevant to the thread as a whole.

1. How did you find here super?

2. Do you hate atheists, or do you just think they are wrong? There's a big difference, someone like Wes thinks atheists are, if only with their lack of belief, wrong, but don't hate us.
On the other hand, someone who considers atheists evil, or wicked AS A WHOLE, hates atheists.

I was browsing over at Brainstorms and saw a mention of this place.  I had never heard of it.  I'm glad I found it though...you guys are a riot.

No, I don't hate atheists....I used to be an unbeliever at one time myself.

Really? Is this not you then?

Quote
"What happened to the happy-go-lucky, peace-loving athiest? The reality is atheists are dreadfully miserable, foul-mouthed individuals....Truly the pond scum of society

that doesn't mean I hate them.  I hate science, not people.  That is just an observation.

  
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:45   

Quote (k.e @ Sep. 18 2007,09:44)
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,17:42)
so if chimps and humans are so close genetically, why do we look so different -- and what makes us different?  Have you ever noticed that not one single piece of anatomy looks like the other?  Sure both humans and chimps share the same types of body parts, but none of them look the same at all.....why would this be?  Why would mutations change a creature, yet not change a creature?

Ah sorry to be the bearer of bad news SS


BUT NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK!

don't wimp out on me intellectually...what makes humans look so different than other primates if our genetic code is so close?

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:45   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:38)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 18 2007,09:35)
Hi Supersport.

ERVs?

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

have fun!


Ps, are you an engineer?

that dude would make a great politician, lawyer or used car salesman.

Because he's honest and smart?

You were *that* impressed with his content?

Happy to cure you of YEC, SS. Welcome to reality.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:47   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:42)
so if chimps and humans are so close genetically, why do we look so different -- and what makes us different?  Have you ever noticed that not one single piece of anatomy looks like the other?  Sure both humans and chimps share the same types of body parts, but none of them look the same at all.....why would this be?

We have our theory, but we'd like to hear yours first.

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:48   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:45)
Quote (k.e @ Sep. 18 2007,09:44)
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,17:42)
so if chimps and humans are so close genetically, why do we look so different -- and what makes us different?  Have you ever noticed that not one single piece of anatomy looks like the other?  Sure both humans and chimps share the same types of body parts, but none of them look the same at all.....why would this be?  Why would mutations change a creature, yet not change a creature?

Ah sorry to be the bearer of bad news SS


BUT NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK!

don't wimp out on me intellectually...what makes humans look so different than other primates if our genetic code is so close?

I don't think we're that different at all.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:50   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:44)
I hate science...

Good to know.

Why are you here?

  
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:50   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 18 2007,09:48)
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:45)
Quote (k.e @ Sep. 18 2007,09:44)
 
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,17:42)
so if chimps and humans are so close genetically, why do we look so different -- and what makes us different?  Have you ever noticed that not one single piece of anatomy looks like the other?  Sure both humans and chimps share the same types of body parts, but none of them look the same at all.....why would this be?  Why would mutations change a creature, yet not change a creature?

Ah sorry to be the bearer of bad news SS


BUT NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK!

don't wimp out on me intellectually...what makes humans look so different than other primates if our genetic code is so close?

I don't think we're that different at all.

does your face look like a chimp's?  How about your arms, hands, legs, rear end, shoulders, pelvis, spine, knees, etc......mine don't.

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:51   

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don't wimp out on me intellectually...what makes humans look so different than other primates if our genetic code is so close?


HO LEE CRAP

Humans and apes are almost identical vis-à-vis  other mamals. If you don't believe me try warm milk direct from a cows teat and then a human teat and then tell which you prefer if peanuts are not in your reason you are a homo(or very young).

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:52   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:50)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 18 2007,09:48)
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:45)
 
Quote (k.e @ Sep. 18 2007,09:44)
 
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,17:42)
so if chimps and humans are so close genetically, why do we look so different -- and what makes us different?  Have you ever noticed that not one single piece of anatomy looks like the other?  Sure both humans and chimps share the same types of body parts, but none of them look the same at all.....why would this be?  Why would mutations change a creature, yet not change a creature?

Ah sorry to be the bearer of bad news SS


BUT NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK!

don't wimp out on me intellectually...what makes humans look so different than other primates if our genetic code is so close?

I don't think we're that different at all.

does your face look like a chimp's?  How about your arms, hands, legs, rear end, shoulders, pelvis, spine, knees, etc......mine don't.

What's you explanation for the difference?

"God wanted it that way"

Very deep.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
IanBrown_101



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:52   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,15:44)
Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 18 2007,09:43)
Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,15:35)
 
Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 18 2007,09:33)
Out of curiosity, and not particularly relevant to the thread as a whole.

1. How did you find here super?

2. Do you hate atheists, or do you just think they are wrong? There's a big difference, someone like Wes thinks atheists are, if only with their lack of belief, wrong, but don't hate us.
On the other hand, someone who considers atheists evil, or wicked AS A WHOLE, hates atheists.

I was browsing over at Brainstorms and saw a mention of this place.  I had never heard of it.  I'm glad I found it though...you guys are a riot.

No, I don't hate atheists....I used to be an unbeliever at one time myself.

Really? Is this not you then?

 
Quote
"What happened to the happy-go-lucky, peace-loving athiest? The reality is atheists are dreadfully miserable, foul-mouthed individuals....Truly the pond scum of society

that doesn't mean I hate them.  I hate science, not people.  That is just an observation.

So if I said "All christians are just bigoted scum sucking morons with the capacity for reason and honesty of a particularly twisted whelk" that's not hate?

I don't believe this, by the way.

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I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest.

You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK

Roddenberry is my God.

   
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:53   

if anyone needs proof that science is full of kooks, all you have to do is look at a recent article which claim humans became human not because of chance mutation, but because they ate onions and potatoes while other primates didn't.   You people are delusional.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070909184006.htm

regarding how apes turned into humans:

"That's the big mystery of paleoanthropology," Dominy said. "What changed? Why did our earliest human ancestors deviate from the pattern we see in living apes to evolve this incredibly large brain, which is very energetically expensive to maintain, and to become a much more efficient bipedal organism?"

For years, the answer was thought to be the growing importance of meat in the diet, as early humans learned to hunt. But, Dominy pointed out, "Even when you look at modern human hunter-gatherers, meat is a relatively small fraction of their diet. They cooperate with language, use nets; they have poisoned arrows, even, and still it's not that easy to hunt meat. To think that, two to four million years ago, a small-brained, awkwardly bipedal animal could efficiently acquire meat, even by scavenging, just doesn't make a whole lot of sense."

Some anthropologists have begun to suspect the new source of food consisted of starches, stored by plants in the form of underground tubers and bulbs--wild versions of modern-day foods like carrots, potatoes, and onions"

"Why wait for chance mutations to improve gene function?"

  
guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:55   

Now now, one at a time.  A new toy lasts longer if you don't all grab it at the corners and start pulling.

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:56   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:44)
I hate science, not people.  That is just an observation.

what about maths, do you hate maths too?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
supersport



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:56   

gotta go to work.  Have fun.

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,09:59   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:50)
does your face look like a chimp's?  How about your arms, hands, legs, rear end, shoulders, pelvis, spine, knees, etc......mine don't.

Do you know that we are genetically closer to chimps than chimps are to gorillas?

And in the same veine, we are more closely related to the lungfish than the lungfish is related to the troot.

Why is that SS? Did God want it that way?


(I should mention to our newbie that English is not my first language, hoping he's not as xenophobic as he's homophobic)

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,10:02   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:56)
gotta go to work.  Have fun.

Sure, well, I doubt we'll be seeing you again.

If you do come back, the same unanswered questions will be here waiting for you.

If I get time i'll wrap them up into a single post you can ignore.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,10:06   

Quote (supersport @ Sep. 18 2007,09:53)
if anyone needs proof that science is full of kooks, all you have to do is look at a recent article which claim humans became human not because of chance mutation, but because they ate onions and potatoes while other primates didn't.

You're confusing mutation and selection.
Your ignorance of basic biology is not going to refute any theory, sorry.

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 18 2007,10:08   

Quote (guthrie @ Sep. 18 2007,17:55)
Now now, one at a time.  A new toy lasts longer if you don't all grab it at the corners and start pulling.

I mean seriuosly rednecks eat roadkill, what's wrong with rationilists eating dogs ?

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
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