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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2019,15:16   

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DaveS June 17, 2019 at 8:30 am  
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The truth hurts, eh, hazel?
 
   
ET’s whole demeanor reminds me of the guy in my high school who used to spend every lunch hour in the parking lot sitting on the hood of his Trans Am, blasting Def Leppard and eating McDonalds.    :p    

BB@92
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BB to KF @64:
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"If you doubt me, ask yourself why a certain individual feels it necessary to respond to almost every comment I make even though I never respond to him."


Followed by comments 66, 67 and 68 from ET directed towards BB. KF, I think this demonstrates my point quite conclusively that the best way to make a bully look like a pathetic fool is for the victim of the bullying to never respond directly to the bully. Doing this highlights the obsessive nature of the bully for all to see.


And then as predictable as night following day, ET@93

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Brother Brian:

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"If you doubt me, ask yourself why a certain individual feels it necessary to respond to almost every comment I make even though I never respond to him."


Stop posting easily refuted nonsense and I won’t respond to your posts.

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"KF, I think this demonstrates my point quite conclusively that the best way to make a bully look like a pathetic fool is for the victim of the bullying to never respond directly to the bully."


That does nothing. The only way to respond to a bully is to use science and facts against him/ her. Show the bully that you are right and he/ she is the fool.

Failure to do that makes you look like a coward who knows that it cannot support its nonsensical posts. Which means I am not a bully and I am merely pointing out the ignorant posts of an anti-IDists on an agenda.


Followed seconds later by:

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So I will continue to expose anyone who posts ID PRATTs and nonsense. And they will continue to cry foul because they definitely cannot defend their trope.

Should BB be worried about ET stalking him?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2019,16:14   

It's a shame that ET will never have the self-awareness to understand that BB just threw a rake on the ground and ET just stepped right on it and got whacked in the face.  :D  :D  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2019,16:39   

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It's a shame that ET will never have the self-awareness to understand that BB just threw a rake on the ground and ET just stepped right on it and got whacked in the face.  :D  :D  :D

BB should be ashamed of himself for taking advantage of the mentally disadvantaged.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2019,18:01   

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It's a shame that ET will never have the self-awareness to understand that BB just threw a rake on the ground and ET just stepped right on it and got whacked in the face.  :D  :D  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2019,19:35   

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Hazel June 17, 2019 at 6:25 am
SNIP

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ET June 17, 2019 at 7:29 am
SNIP

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Hazel June 17, 2019 at 8:00 am
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ET June 17, 2019 at 8:16 am
SNIP


   
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DaveS June 17, 2019 at 8:30 am
I already snipped above, that should be a warning enough. SNIP== KF

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Silver Asiatic June 17, 2019 at 8:39 am
SNIP

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DaveS June 17, 2019 at 8:44 am
SNIP

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ET June 17, 2019 at 9:28 am
[As there is substance, I will not simply snip all. SNIP para 1, distractive. KF]

The anti-ID arguments are never original and they all have been dealt with many times over. It has become beyond pathetic. And dealing with people who would rather erect and fight strawmen as opposed to actually leading by example- show us how you determined blind and mindless processes did it, produce those testable hypotheses and the tests- gets annoying.
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linky

This is DaveTard quality immoderating.

It's the Good Old Days all over again!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2019,18:09   

There's too much to excerpt here but on the completely asinine thread about teaching IC in engineering, BB criticizes the suggestion and ET proclaims it, and then there's an exchange of several comments where big surprise ET gets completely humiliated :D  :D  :D

the fun starts here

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2019,22:15   

A guy just said this in a political context on Twitter, but I think everybody here can appreciate it.

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"Things have not gotten as stupid as they are going to get."

John Tabin

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,00:02   

Quote (stevestory @ June 18 2019,16:09)
There's too much to excerpt here but on the completely asinine thread about teaching IC in engineering, BB criticizes the suggestion and ET proclaims it, and then there's an exchange of several comments where big surprise ET gets completely humiliated :D  :D  :D

the fun starts here

He's getting his meltdown in early this week.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,03:10   

I suspect ET's Friday meltdown has been going on for some time.

I got mine in early too. ba77 called me a mad drunk and then tried to run away from it, by pinning the mad bit on someone called "Phillip C". It took me ages to figure out there was a connection.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,07:14   

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Bob O'H June 19, 2019 at 2:04 am
You’re not a very pleasent fellow, are you ba77? You’re happy to accuse me of being a drunk (@12 and also here), but when called on it claim drinking habit is my own business. Well, if you think it’s my own business, don’t bring it up.
You also accuse my of having a mental disease, but U don’t think you’re a psychiatrist. And you back it up by saying it’s not you, and quote a video by a “Phillip C”, who I’m guessing is also you. So you’re not accusing be of mental illness because I am, because you said so? You could at least have the courage of your convictions.
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,07:18   

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Bornagain77 June 19, 2019 at 3:40 am
Bob ‘O’H, @ 16
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You’re not a very pleasant fellow, are you ba77?

Someone pointing out the reality of a situation is never very pleasant for those who live in a dream world of their own making.


linky

"I'm not an asshole, I just tell The Truth" says every asshole in the world.

BS77/Philip C continues:

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The phrase ‘perhaps lots of alcohol’ is not a personal reference to how much you may or may not drink, I don’t even know how much you personally drink, it is a reference to the fact that some people who want to escape problems in this life, i.e. a divorce, a death of a loved one, loss of a job, etc.., often turn to alcohol to avoid having to deal honestly with those problems.


What a fucking loser coward. BS77 is like the cowardly lion, if the cowardly lion also lacked every other positive attribute. :-P

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,08:13   

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PS: As a reminder, Lewontin:
linky

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,11:15   

Quote (Bob O'H @ June 19 2019,03:10)
I suspect ET's Friday meltdown has been going on for some time.

I got mine in early too. ba77 called me a mad drunk and then tried to run away from it, by pinning the mad bit on someone called "Phillip C". It took me ages to figure out there was a connection.

Phillip Cunningham.  Also known as The Sage of Minneapolis.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,18:47   

Quote (CeilingCat @ June 19 2019,12:15)
Quote (Bob O'H @ June 19 2019,03:10)
I suspect ET's Friday meltdown has been going on for some time.

I got mine in early too. ba77 called me a mad drunk and then tried to run away from it, by pinning the mad bit on someone called "Phillip C". It took me ages to figure out there was a connection.

Phillip Cunningham.  Also known as The Sage of Minneapolis.

In my undergrad physics career I only had three classes specifically dealing with QM. Those bastard naturalist Darwinist professors hid the truth from me about Shroud of Turin holograms and such. So glad Phillip came along to teach me important things about advanced QM.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2019,23:37   

Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2019,15:15)
A guy just said this in a political context on Twitter, but I think everybody here can appreciate it.

         
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"Things have not gotten as stupid as they are going to get."

John Tabin

Heh, on the Problem of “God-talk” in Biology Textbooks thread Seversky gets into a dialogue with Silver Asiatic about theology and science. It's all amicable enough, with Severski winding up a comment referencing Laplace. ET has now come along and has decided the conversation needs a bit of dumbing down:        
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seversky:

<snippity>
       
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   Again, following Laplace, it has no need of such hypotheses.


Except that has nothing to do with Laplace. Laplace was talking about the need for God to intervene in order to keep the planets and systems working.

As ever, ET is concerned about context; if Laplace's comment was about one field of science, it couldn't possibly apply anywhere else!
Linky to Severski's comment, which deserves a read.

Edited by Ptaylor on June 20 2019,16:42

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2019,02:42   

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I suspect ET's Friday meltdown has been going on for some time.

I got mine in early too. ba77 called me a mad drunk and then tried to run away from it, by pinning the mad bit on someone called "Phillip C". It took me ages to figure out there was a connection.

Phillip Cunningham.  Also known as The Sage of Minneapolis.

In my undergrad physics career I only had three classes specifically dealing with QM. Those bastard naturalist Darwinist professors hid the truth from me about Shroud of Turin holograms and such. So glad Phillip came along to teach me important things about advanced QM.

Lucky you. I was too busy being indoctrinated in evilution. It was so bad I even got a blast of that awful work of Fisher in my statistics courses.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2019,16:47   

Even the IDists are getting fed up with ET.

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@mod I recommend deleting #25 for calling commentators names. I also recommend repeat offenders be banned.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2019,17:47   

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Even the IDists are getting fed up with ET.

 
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@mod I recommend deleting #25 for calling commentators names. I also recommend repeat offenders be banned.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2019,18:08   

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Even the IDists are getting fed up with ET.

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@mod I recommend deleting #25 for calling commentators names. I also recommend repeat offenders be banned.


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In the words of the USA's other paragon of civility and deep thought, we'll see what happens.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2019,23:28   

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Even the IDists are getting fed up with ET.

   
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@mod I recommend deleting #25 for calling commentators names. I also recommend repeat offenders be banned.


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Sorry EricMH, no Jesus on toast for you then. :(



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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2019,07:27   

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Brother Brian June 20, 2019 at 7:30 pm
Pater, do you notice that we get accused of being bullies when we almost never interact with the person accusing us of being bullies? Yet this same person, for whatever twisted pathology, finds it necessary to react to everything we say. Obsession? Stalking? I don’t know.
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2019,10:34   

Joe is now claiming that the standardization of units of measure were not critical in advances in industry and technology.

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It was critical for a century’s worth of advances in industry, technology and commerce.


Evidence please- and don’t ask me a question, just provide the reference to support your claim. Or stop making them

Every time I think that he has reached the pinnacle of stupidity, he surprises me.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2019,12:15   

Only two things are infinite?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2019,12:25   

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Only two things are infinite?

There are three types of people in the world. Those who understand math and those who don't.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2019,12:54   

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ET June 21, 2019 at 7:37 am
Wow, all I said was that ID does not require God nor the belief in God.

Guillermo Gonzalez tells AP that “Darwinism does not mandate followers to adopt atheism; just as intelligent design doesn’t require a belief in God.”

Let’s take a look-in “The Design Revolution”, page 25, Dembski writes:
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Intelligent Design has theological implications, but it is not a theological enterprise. Theology does not own intelligent design. Intelligent design is not a evangelical Christian thing, or a generally Christian thing or even a generally theistic thing. Anyone willing to set aside naturalistic prejudices and consider the possibility of evidence for intelligence in the natural world is a friend of intelligent design.

He goes on to say:
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Intelligent design requires neither a meddling God nor a meddled world. For that matter, it doesn’t even require there be a God.

REQUIRES is the operative word. ID is NOT falsified by a personal God. ID is NOT falsified by the existence of salvation.

So I am not sure what set off bornagain77 as there wasn’t anything bizarre with what I posted. It all comes from the ID leaders.
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Hazel June 21, 2019 at 7:58 am
ba is not interested in ID. He is interested in proselytizing for Christianity. Suggesting that ID might not require Christianity set him off.
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Bornagain77 June 21, 2019 at 9:10 am
Well sure, there is no mandate to follow the evidence where it leads in science. People who are interested in finding the truth find it desirable to do so though.

But as I said, “regardless of what some may prefer to believe beforehand, empirical science has a way of breaking through any artificial limits we try to artificially place on it beforehand.”

And as I laid out, via empirical evidence from our most powerful theories in science, science now leads us to a direct implication for a personal God, and even when including the recent closing of the free will loop-hole in quantum mechanics, and when the Agent Causality of God is rightly let BACK into physics (as originally envisioned by the Christian founders of modern science), then that leads to a direct implication for Christianity.

I note that neither ET nor Hazel challenged the evidence. ET quoted Gonzalez, as if personal opinion can out weigh empirical evidence in science, and Hazel, predictably, disparagingly attacked my laying out the evidence for a personal God as “proselytizing for Christianity.”

Well call it what you will. The scientific evidence is what it is. To disparage my motives instead of addressing the scientific evidence that I laid out does nothing to overturn the evidence that I laid out. Good luck overturning it. Both General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are confirmed to almost absurd levels of precision.

Again, the evidence is what it is, whether you personally like it or not, and it leads to a direct inference for a personal God who created us. Even, (when including evidence for our unique ability to create information) leading us to a direct inference for God creating us in His image. (i.e. “Kingdom of Speech”; T. Wolfe).

If you don’t like the direct inferences that are to be drawn from these powerful lines of evidence, for what ever ill conceived personal reason you may have, at least have the honesty to forthrightly address the scientific evidence I’ve presented instead of arguing from authority and/or attacking my personal motives as Hazel has done,,, (as if Hazel has no personal motives that can’t be attacked if I so chose to do so)
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ET June 21, 2019 at 9:17 am
Oh my. What Gonzalez said has NOTHING to do with the evidence and EVERYTHING to do with ID in general.

What Dembski said has NOTHING to do with any evidence and EVERYTHING to do with ID in general.

Personal God? Then why doesn’t God just re-create Eden for us? I will tell you why- because we messed it all up.
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Bornagain77 June 21, 2019 at 9:21 am
So you are claiming that Dembski and Gonzalez are against ID advocates following the evidence where it leads? 🙂
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ET June 21, 2019 at 9:36 am
LoL! I never said, implied nor ever thought such a thing
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Asauber June 21, 2019 at 11:39 am
Maybe I can help by asking some questions:

What kind of mental framework has to be in place prior to a person professing to believe there is no God?

Is denial of design in nature something that occurs before that conclusion is made or afterwards?

What is the logical progression of these ideas?

Andrew


I just can't keep up with all this Science!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2019,13:15   

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Only two things are infinite?

There are three types of people in the world. Those who understand math and those who don't.

There are 10 types of people. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2019,14:46   

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Joe asks for evidence that unit standardisation a good thing. Here is a negative example:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki....Orbiter


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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2019,07:43   

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Seversky, first off, legally if the unborn baby were granted the status of person-hood, then it would be afforded legal protection under the [US] constitution.

Secondly. personhood can not be grounded within the atheistic materialism of Darwinian evolution but can only be grounded within Theism. More specifically, personhood can only be grounded within a ‘soul’ that is created by God.


OK, so by this argument a foetus can’t then be granted personhood under the US constitution, without violating the Establishment Clause.


hehehehehe

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2019,08:33   

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Seversky, first off, legally if the unborn baby were granted the status of person-hood, then it would be afforded legal protection under the [US] constitution.

Secondly. personhood can not be grounded within the atheistic materialism of Darwinian evolution but can only be grounded within Theism. More specifically, personhood can only be grounded within a ‘soul’ that is created by God.


OK, so by this argument a foetus can’t then be granted personhood under the US constitution, without violating the Establishment Clause.


hehehehehe

I think the logical extension of that is that nobody in the US is a person, but some companies may be.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2019,09:55   

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ba77 –
 
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Seversky, first off, legally if the unborn baby were granted the status of person-hood, then it would be afforded legal protection under the [US] constitution.

Secondly. personhood can not be grounded within the atheistic materialism of Darwinian evolution but can only be grounded within Theism. More specifically, personhood can only be grounded within a ‘soul’ that is created by God.


OK, so by this argument a foetus can’t then be granted personhood under the US constitution, without violating the Establishment Clause.


hehehehehe

Yikes!

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