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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2019,19:02   

I particularly liked the ending.
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From 43:04 to 46:51, James Tour told 15 lies (counting repeats). 15 lies in under 4 minutes. That is Trumpian. And, his lies are exposed by undergraduate level chemistry. They are not even sophisticated lies. They are stupid obvious lies.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,00:48   

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I did a short reply to expose the out and out lies by James Tour:

https://stonesnbones.blogspot.com/2019.......ne.html

Well done Dr. Hurd. You should post a link to this smackdown of Tour's dishonesty and incompetence in the Comments of the YouTube video you linked to just above.

Thanks.

Those Disco'tute microdicks have me blocked.   :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,06:51   

We are Siamese if you bump, please.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,07:21   

:D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,07:29   

It's not just in science that you have to deal with clueless idiots, apparently they have to in cooking too.

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Brad Fingeroot
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@kenjilopezalt
— I have a friend that claims that preheating an oven is unnecessary and that one would not be able to tell the difference as long as you used a meat thermometer to get to the correct internal temp. What’s your take on this? (and if wrong, why?)
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Brad Fingeroot
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Note: he claims this for things like roasted chicken or a piece of fish, not just big roasts or frozen pizza or things that would be a bit more forgiving. Thanks!
   
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J. Kenji “Individual Fun” López-Alt
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Depends what you want. In some cases maybe but without a properly preheated oven you won’t get the exterior browned as well and with baking you’d get no oven spring.
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Hendozer
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Is there science to back this up or meerely personal observation?
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J. Kenji “Individual Fun” López-Alt
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Yes there is science to back it up. Basic thermodynamics. The higher the exterior temperature the greater the temperature differential will arise between the surface and interior of the object being heated.
   
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Hendozer
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State ur sources please
 
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J. Kenji “Individual Fun” López-Alt
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Um, I literally wrote a book on the subject? Or get any basic college textbook on thermodynamics? Do you ask people to state sources when they claim that rocks fall down when you drop them?
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Link to book plz

This reminded me of Joe G asking for a citation for something that anybody who ever passed trigonometry 101 would automatically understand  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,10:17   

Quote (stevestory @ April 30 2019,05:29)
This reminded me of Joe G asking for a citation for something that anybody who ever passed trigonometry 101 would automatically understand  :D

That's better than average for Joe.  I'd have expected him to keep insisting ad nauseam that triangles have two sides.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,10:27   

Well, they have two legs - isn't that close enough?

ETA Or is that only right triangles?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,10:34   

Quote (Dr.GH @ April 30 2019,00:48)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 29 2019,16:32)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 29 2019,18:13)
I did a short reply to expose the out and out lies by James Tour:

https://stonesnbones.blogspot.com/2019.......ne.html

Well done Dr. Hurd. You should post a link to this smackdown of Tour's dishonesty and incompetence in the Comments of the YouTube video you linked to just above.

Thanks.

Those Disco'tute microdicks have me blocked.   :D

The link has been posted.   Must be magic.  :)

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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,10:50   

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Jack Jones
Disbelief in an intelligent Creator has almost nothing to do with the mind but rather with the heart and one's willingness to be convicted.

1 month ago
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josue jumalon
It is important to understand the complex process of life to lead us to a more logical belief in God.

1 month ago


Intelligent Creator? God? Who's this God person? We're all just a bunch of scientists discussing scientific theory here.  :D  :)  :p

   
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,12:45   

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The link has been posted.   Must be magic.  :)

Thanks for trying.

I learned there is a YouTube trick called "shadowing." You can see your posts to the comments, but nobody else will.

For example, I see my comments if I am logged on to my Goggle account, but not otherwise. And nobody else sees them at all.  :O  :angry:

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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,12:46   

Quote (stevestory @ April 29 2019,17:02)
I particularly liked the ending.
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From 43:04 to 46:51, James Tour told 15 lies (counting repeats). 15 lies in under 4 minutes. That is Trumpian. And, his lies are exposed by undergraduate level chemistry. They are not even sophisticated lies. They are stupid obvious lies.

I am glad you liked it.  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,17:41   

Quote (Dr.GH @ April 30 2019,12:45)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 30 2019,08:34)
The link has been posted.   Must be magic.  :)

Thanks for trying.

I learned there is a YouTube trick called "shadowing." You can see your posts to the comments, but nobody else will.

For example, I see my comments if I am logged on to my Goggle account, but not otherwise. And nobody else sees them at all.  :O  :angry:

Heh.  I wondered why all the comments I could see were pro-ID, DI ass-kissing ones.   Looks like the DI is blanking out all the negative ones.

Not unsurprising at all for the slimy pieces of shit they are.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"I'm a female retired marine biologist"

Whizz-dumb from Joe "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest female impersonator YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 30 2019,18:56   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 30 2019,18:41)
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 30 2019,12:45)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 30 2019,08:34)
The link has been posted.   Must be magic.  :)

Thanks for trying.

I learned there is a YouTube trick called "shadowing." You can see your posts to the comments, but nobody else will.

For example, I see my comments if I am logged on to my Goggle account, but not otherwise. And nobody else sees them at all.  :O  :angry:

Heh.  I wondered why all the comments I could see were pro-ID, DI ass-kissing ones.   Looks like the DI is blanking out all the negative ones.

Not unsurprising at all for the slimy pieces of shit they are.

After you said that I went to the YouTube page and counted 30 consecutive pro-creationism comments.

on the plus side, the vast majority of them seemed to have been written by native English speakers, so they're doing better than many pro-trump fora.  :D  :)  :p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2019,12:05   

In a new development, James Tour claimed he personally has apologized to Jack Szostak.


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Dear Peter, thank you for writing to me. That was a strong word (“lying”) which I regret saying. I have already apologized to Jack Szostak by phone, and he very graciously accepted the apology. If given a chance, I would likewise apologize to any of those cited in that talk to whom I said such a thing. My behavior was inappropriate.

Like many things that I do and say in life, there are elements upon which I have regrets and wish that I had done differently. My life is filled with those occasions. In fact, I can literally claim almost daily I do something or say something which I wish I had not. Those closest to me get the brunt of it, but thankfully they have also been gracious in forgiving me. And for that I am thankful.

“O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 7:24-25a.

I do not read or write on blogs-- or almost never. So if you wish, you may post this on Peaceful Science, though my words were far from peaceful, to my shame.

God bless,
James Tour



(Not posted to his YouTube rant)

Of course there are new questions that are suggested. I learned that at least one person emailed to Szostak about the Disco'tute YouTube. They also included a link to Stones and Bones. Prof. Szostak replied that he would leave a personal message for Prof. Tour.
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He said he might send Tour a personal message, but that publicly responding would be pointless because these people don't respond to facts.


The intermediary sent a similar email to James Tour suggesting he take down the Disco'tute YouTube to avoid "embarrassment," and also included the link. Tour's reaction was far different. He sent emails to the university where the intermediary teaches. His emails were to the Dean of the School of Medicine, and the Uni HRS. Tour accused that I was a stooge of the 'intermediary' and hinted we were merely trying to extort Tour, and the Disco'tute.

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Well, things have certainly escalated.  I had also contacted Tour about this issue, and mentioned that your video might be coming out so he should consider getting ahead of the curve and taking down the video to reduce the damage that might be done to his professional reputation.  He has interpreted this as a threat and seems to think I am now the head of some vast conspiracy to extort him.  He has gone so far as to forward my emails to the dean of my department as well as other adminstrators.

What a drama queen.


Edited by Dr.GH on May 05 2019,10:26

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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2019,13:05   

So the Disco'tutes posted some push-back on my James Tour posts.

https://evolutionnews.org/2019....r-jesus

It is built on a long whine from James Tour to John West:

http://www.jmtour.com/wp-cont....cle.pdf

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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2019,13:22   

Quote (Dr.GH @ May 14 2019,14:05)
So the Disco'tutes posted some push-back on my James Tour posts.

https://evolutionnews.org/2019.......r-jesus

It is built on a long whine from James Tour to John West:

http://www.jmtour.com/wp-cont....cle.pdf

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Finally, Hurd dismisses Tour’s lecture as a whole by asserting: “There are too many falsehoods, and misrepresentations to review in detail.” But if there really were so many falsehoods in Tour’s talk, you would think Hurd would choose to refute the ones that were the most central to Tour’s hour-long critique. Instead, Hurd obsesses about four minutes where Tour criticizes one short article. I’ve seen Hurd’s critique treated online as if it were a devastating takedown of Tour’s views. But anyone who watches Tour’s entire lecture can easily see that all Hurd offers is (at best) a skirmish at the edges.
"He only beat us up on some minor things!"  :)  :p  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2019,16:09   

Quote (stevestory @ May 14 2019,13:22)
Quote (Dr.GH @ May 14 2019,14:05)
So the Disco'tutes posted some push-back on my James Tour posts.

https://evolutionnews.org/2019.......r-jesus

It is built on a long whine from James Tour to John West:

http://www.jmtour.com/wp-cont....cle.pdf

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Finally, Hurd dismisses Tour’s lecture as a whole by asserting: “There are too many falsehoods, and misrepresentations to review in detail.” But if there really were so many falsehoods in Tour’s talk, you would think Hurd would choose to refute the ones that were the most central to Tour’s hour-long critique. Instead, Hurd obsesses about four minutes where Tour criticizes one short article. I’ve seen Hurd’s critique treated online as if it were a devastating takedown of Tour’s views. But anyone who watches Tour’s entire lecture can easily see that all Hurd offers is (at best) a skirmish at the edges.
"He only beat us up on some minor things!"  :)  :p  :D

It’s only a flesh wound!

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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2019,21:18   

Quote (Texas Teach @ May 14 2019,14:09)
It’s only a flesh wound!

:D  :D  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2019,21:19   

Quote (stevestory @ May 14 2019,11:22)
He only beat us up on some minor things!"  :)  :p  :D

:D  :D  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,11:03   

What's New About Conspiracy Theories?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,13:14   

I have forgotten who Vincent Torley is.

I recognized the name as a creationist twit, but nothing else came to mind.

Any help appreciated.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,13:27   

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What's New About Conspiracy Theories?

Excellent reading. Thanks for the link.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,14:11   

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I have forgotten who Vincent Torley is.

I recognized the name as a creationist twit, but nothing else came to mind.

Any help appreciated.

Google to the rescue.

I just don't read that BS.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,14:49   

Quote (Dr.GH @ May 16 2019,14:27)
Quote (stevestory @ May 16 2019,09:03)
What's New About Conspiracy Theories?

Excellent reading. Thanks for the link.

I was catching up on my New Yorkers yesterday and came across that excellent article and thought I would share it with everybody. Even after UD finally turns the lights off, which I expect will be sometime this year, I'll still probably use this place to drop interesting links.

and anybody who wants to find me on the book of faces can do so. Same spelling as my real name just without the s's. But be warned I'm a total Libtard  :D I even like fancy mustards!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,14:51   

Quote (Dr.GH @ May 16 2019,15:11)
Quote (Dr.GH @ May 16 2019,11:14)
I have forgotten who Vincent Torley is.

I recognized the name as a creationist twit, but nothing else came to mind.

Any help appreciated.

Google to the rescue.

I just don't read that BS.

Torley posted at UD for a while; I don't remember why he left. Now I've only seen him at The Skeptical Zone but I steer clear of that place.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,23:29   

Quote (stevestory @ May 16 2019,14:51)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ May 16 2019,15:11)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ May 16 2019,11:14)
I have forgotten who Vincent Torley is.

I recognized the name as a creationist twit, but nothing else came to mind.

Any help appreciated.

Google to the rescue.

I just don't read that BS.

Torley posted at UD for a while; I don't remember why he left. Now I've only seen him at The Skeptical Zone but I steer clear of that place.

He popped up at Peaceful Science a few days ago.   Not a regular poster there yet though.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 16 2019,23:37   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 16 2019,21:29)
He popped up at Peaceful Science a few days ago.   Not a regular poster there yet though.

That was why I asked. He was popping off supporting James Tour. But so does Swamidass.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2019,11:11   

If UD isn't enough for you and you want to witness some of the biggest crackheads on the planet, get on Facebook and join the group "Creation science vs evolution science".

Holy moly.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2019,11:17   

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If UD isn't enough for you and you want to witness some of the biggest crackheads on the planet, get on Facebook and join the group "Creation science vs evolution science".

Holy moly.

Yep. They are some very classic examples of creationism posting there.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2019,11:20   

Quote (Dr.GH @ May 27 2019,12:17)
Quote (stevestory @ May 27 2019,09:11)
If UD isn't enough for you and you want to witness some of the biggest crackheads on the planet, get on Facebook and join the group "Creation science vs evolution science".

Holy moly.

Yep. They are some very classic examples of creationism posting there.

I was thinking of a certain N. Eisner you just interacted with when I wrote that.

   
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