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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2019,13:01   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 14 2019,11:11)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 14 2019,08:49)
acartia the ignorant:
 
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All IC with a confirmed source are the result of an intelligent agent. A human agent. All human produced IC is non-living.


Except for Venter's bacterial DNA, Church's ribosome, designed ribozymes, insulin, GMOs, etc.

Sorry Joke, but humans didn't design the bacterial DNA, or the ribosome, or insulin. All we did is modified existing IC for our purposes.

Yes, you are very sorry as humans did synthesize bacterial DNA. Humans have synthesized the insulin gene. And humans have synthesized the IC ribosome.

acartie is an ignorant asshole and proud of it

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2019,13:01   

But then again, acartie is just a quote-mining coward.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,09:02   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 14 2019,23:11)
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Stephen Meyer: The More Science Advances, the More Science Points to Design

Here. Including a vignette about how Dr. Meyer owned a materialist who lied about Newton’s approach to science.

Posted on January 14, 2019 AuthorBarry Arrington Comment(0)


Do experiments? Do research? Derive new hypotheses and test them? No? What does intelligent design do then?

IT OWNS THE LIBS MATERIALISTS!

There aren't any blind watchmaker experiments. There aren't any testable hypotheses, either. And no one is doing any research using blind watchmaker evolution.

What does blind watchmaker evolution do then?

It eats shit and lies about it.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,09:04   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2019,23:54)
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 14 2019,23:11)
 
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Stephen Meyer: The More Science Advances, the More Science Points to Design

Here. Including a vignette about how Dr. Meyer owned a materialist who lied about Newton’s approach to science.

Posted on January 14, 2019 AuthorBarry Arrington Comment(0)


Do experiments? Do research? Derive new hypotheses and test them? No? What does intelligent design do then?

IT OWNS THE LIBS MATERIALISTS!

Meyer's sermon was delivered at the Mission Hills Church whose stated purpose is

"We believe that a full life in Jesus begins with transformation, a life fully committed to Him. Whether it’s freedom from depression and anger, a broken relationship restored, a commitment to prayer and generosity, or overcoming an addiction, transformation is the natural result of encountering the living God and of obedience to Jesus."

ALL SCIENCY SCIENCE SO FAR!   :)

So people of science can only discuss science and nothing else? Or is timmy just an ignorant troll?

People are still waiting for the science of materialism and evolutionism. I bet the ice caps melt before that happens

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,09:12   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 14 2019,22:58)
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On this site, we regularly explore the implications of ideas and world views. If we reject the historicity of Genesis, there is no salvation and no Christianity.

Nothing but science.

Except that is not UD's stated purpose, loser

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,09:54   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,09:04)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2019,23:54)
   
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 14 2019,23:11)
       
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Stephen Meyer: The More Science Advances, the More Science Points to Design

Here. Including a vignette about how Dr. Meyer owned a materialist who lied about Newton’s approach to science.

Posted on January 14, 2019 AuthorBarry Arrington Comment(0)


Do experiments? Do research? Derive new hypotheses and test them? No? What does intelligent design do then?

IT OWNS THE LIBS MATERIALISTS!

Meyer's sermon was delivered at the Mission Hills Church whose stated purpose is

"We believe that a full life in Jesus begins with transformation, a life fully committed to Him. Whether it’s freedom from depression and anger, a broken relationship restored, a commitment to prayer and generosity, or overcoming an addiction, transformation is the natural result of encountering the living God and of obedience to Jesus."

ALL SCIENCY SCIENCE SO FAR!   :)

So people of science can only discuss science and nothing else?

Maybe if you ask Meyer nicely he'll do an ID lecture with a Quran reading at your mosque, Muslim YEC Joke.   :)

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,10:18   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,09:12)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 14 2019,22:58)
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On this site, we regularly explore the implications of ideas and world views. If we reject the historicity of Genesis, there is no salvation and no Christianity.

Nothing but science.

Except that is not UD's stated purpose, loser

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Serving The Intelligent Design Community

Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,12:40   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,10:18)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,09:12)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 14 2019,22:58)
 
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On this site, we regularly explore the implications of ideas and world views. If we reject the historicity of Genesis, there is no salvation and no Christianity.

Nothing but science.

Except that is not UD's stated purpose, loser

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Serving The Intelligent Design Community

Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose.

No, you are just an ignorant asshole. And it is clear that you and yours don't even know what science is.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,12:40   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,09:54)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,09:04)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2019,23:54)
     
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 14 2019,23:11)
       
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Stephen Meyer: The More Science Advances, the More Science Points to Design

Here. Including a vignette about how Dr. Meyer owned a materialist who lied about Newton’s approach to science.

Posted on January 14, 2019 AuthorBarry Arrington Comment(0)


Do experiments? Do research? Derive new hypotheses and test them? No? What does intelligent design do then?

IT OWNS THE LIBS MATERIALISTS!

Meyer's sermon was delivered at the Mission Hills Church whose stated purpose is

"We believe that a full life in Jesus begins with transformation, a life fully committed to Him. Whether it’s freedom from depression and anger, a broken relationship restored, a commitment to prayer and generosity, or overcoming an addiction, transformation is the natural result of encountering the living God and of obedience to Jesus."

ALL SCIENCY SCIENCE SO FAR!   :)

So people of science can only discuss science and nothing else?

Maybe if you ask Meyer nicely he'll do an ID lecture with a Quran reading at your mosque, Muslim YEC Joke.   :)

LoL! Your ignorance is only amusing. It isn't an argument, dipshit

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,14:43   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,14:47   

Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,14:43)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose

The purpose is to be a BLOG.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,15:23   

Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

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Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,15:35   

Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

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"[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory

"Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,17:55   

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)
Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death. He's on his way back and when he gets here all you infidels will be piled up like cordwood along with the sons of Abraham and be put to the torch. Then I, Barry and all the other followers of ID will rise up through the various stratified layers of the Earth's atmosphere in rapture to meet teh designer. So help me designer.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,18:55   

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,17:55)
Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)
Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,19:00   

Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

Would that then make evos a Creationist community?

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There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one;


And as opposed to a rough draft, which only desperate cowards think means something, that was in published editions.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,19:31   

Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,19:38   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson


TWO YEC morons, timmy?

timmy tugjob Horton, proudly ignorant

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:15   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
   
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
     
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
 
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
 
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation.   :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:33   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,21:15)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
     
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
     
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
   
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
   
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation.   :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam. Too bad for them it failed. Now they're back to trying to pass creationism bills.

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:34   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,20:15)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
     
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
     
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
   
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
   
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

ARCHETYPE, you ignorant asshole. The context was ARCHETYPE.

Clearly I id not try to rename something that had already been so named.

timmy is too stupid to follow a two-post discussion.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:35   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 15 2019,20:33)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,21:15)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
     
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
       
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
   
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
   
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation.   :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam.

Liar. And evolutionism is the only scam, loser.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:37   

There wasn't any name change. Telic thinking has been around in one form or another since well before Creationism.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:44   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 15 2019,20:33)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,21:15)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
     
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
       
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
   
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
   
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation.   :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam. Too bad for them it failed. Now they're back to trying to pass creationism bills.

I guess the find and replace they used in “Of Pandas and People” didn’t work as well as they had planned.

  
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:46   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,20:34)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,20:15)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
       
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
         
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
           
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
           
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
         
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
         
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

ARCHETYPE The context was ARCHETYPE.

Clearly I id not try to rename something that had already been so named.

Still nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

My stars but ID-Creationism sure has some amazingly dumb dumbasses and Joke leads the class.  :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,20:56   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,20:44)
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 15 2019,20:33)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,21:15)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
     
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
       
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
       
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
     
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
     
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation.   :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam. Too bad for them it failed. Now they're back to trying to pass creationism bills.

I guess the find and replace they used in “Of Pandas and People” didn’t work as well as they had planned.

The book that had zero influence of any IDist?

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Joe G



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Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:00   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,20:46)
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,20:34)
     
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,20:15)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
         
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
         
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
           
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
             
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
         
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
         
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

ARCHETYPE The context was ARCHETYPE.

Clearly I id not try to rename something that had already been so named.

Still nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed"

Wow, what an ignorant asshole you are, timmy.

There wasn't supposed to be anything about the Created Kinds as the reference refuted your ignorant claim that I renamed the created kinds as designed archetypes.

And they were discussing, guess what? Linnaean Classification. Which was about guess what? The Created Kinds

Just how ignorant are you, timmy?

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:00   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,20:56)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,20:44)
 
Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 15 2019,20:33)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,21:15)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
       
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
       
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
         
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
           
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
       
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
       
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation.   :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam. Too bad for them it failed. Now they're back to trying to pass creationism bills.

I guess the find and replace they used in “Of Pandas and People” didn’t work as well as they had planned.

The book that had zero influence of any IDist?

Au contraire Joke.  The trial where the Creationist into ID book was exposed also showed the country how little the IDiots had in the way of actual science and that ID really was just rebranded Creationism.  

ID-Creationist morons like you have been bawling their eyes out ever since.   :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
Occam's Aftershave



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Joined: Feb. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:02   

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,21:00)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,20:46)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,20:34)
       
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,20:15)
       
Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)
           
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
           
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
             
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
               
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:
           
Quote
“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr


and
           
Quote

“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

ARCHETYPE The context was ARCHETYPE.

Clearly I id not try to rename something that had already been so named.

Still nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed"


There wasn't supposed to be anything about the Created Kinds as the reference refuted your ignorant claim that I renamed the created kinds as designed archetypes.

LOL!  I love the ridiculous lies and spin you dream up every time you get caught sticking your fat YEC foot into that ID big mouth.   :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
Joe G



Posts: 12011
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:03   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)
Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)
Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.   :D

And now you know that is only because you are an ignorant troll fishing for an evoTARD soundbite. Archetype has been used for centuries.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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