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Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,18:55   

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Alexa has UD as the 538,000th most popular website in America, with page views going down and time on site going down. plus he's paying Denise out of his own pocket to keep posting four posts a day, to make it look like the site is still busy. I'm sure he'd love some more ad revenue, but I don't know how he's going to get it. Maybe he could start selling some merch.

ETA how much dinero do you think there is in shipping a cap to a shack in Montserrat?

Maybe UD brand fishing reels?

Oil of ad hominem of the month club?

A streaming service for farty videos?




       
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,19:43   

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Dr^n is now an "entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites".

Coincidentally, last night I read this interesting comment by Gregory over at TSZ where he says, more or less in passing,

         
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(Preface to Dembski’s ID: THE Bridge between Science and Theology, 1999, which also overshot its reach, but Dembski still won’t admit that openly, now back employed by the DI after officially ‘retiring’ from ID not that long ago).


I haven't bothered to try and verify that in any way, nor do I have a convenient way to ask him how he knows that.

Just checked the Dishonesty Institute's website, and Dembski is listed as a member of its Board of Directors. No idea how long he's been holding that prestigious position.

He's just in it for the free lunch.

Probably the only place on the planet which would give him a paying job.

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Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,19:57   

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Dr^n is now an "entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites".

Coincidentally, last night I read this interesting comment by Gregory over at TSZ where he says, more or less in passing,

         
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(Preface to Dembski’s ID: THE Bridge between Science and Theology, 1999, which also overshot its reach, but Dembski still won’t admit that openly, now back employed by the DI after officially ‘retiring’ from ID not that long ago).


I haven't bothered to try and verify that in any way, nor do I have a convenient way to ask him how he knows that.

Just checked the Dishonesty Institute's website, and Dembski is listed as a member of its Board of Directors. No idea how long he's been holding that prestigious position.

He's just in it for the free lunch.

Probably the only place on the planet which would give him a paying job.

Do they have a cafeteria as nice as Baylor’s?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,14:35   

KF:
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My original discussion which sparked this Op highlights that.


Ed George:
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I thought that it was one of my comments that sparked this OP. After all, my name is in the title. 🙂:)


KF:
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EG, your comment was on a series of OP’s I have been developing on logic and first principles. KF

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,15:51   

Read it before WJM deletes it.
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hazel December 19, 2018 at 2:45 pm

kf writes, “H, I repeat”

Yes, you do. 🙂

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,16:34   

Maybe somebody should ask if there's an echo in there?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,18:08   

Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 19 2018,16:34)
Maybe somebody should ask if there's an echo in there?

That is crazy talk. How could a chamber like that have an echo?

  
Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,18:27   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 19 2018,18:08)
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Maybe somebody should ask if there's an echo in there?

That is crazy talk. How could a chamber like that have an echo?

Between kf’s ears?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,20:34   

To ear is human?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2018,09:23   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Dec. 19 2018,03:57)
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Dr^n is now an "entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites".

Coincidentally, last night I read this interesting comment by Gregory over at TSZ where he says, more or less in passing,

           
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(Preface to Dembski’s ID: THE Bridge between Science and Theology, 1999, which also overshot its reach, but Dembski still won’t admit that openly, now back employed by the DI after officially ‘retiring’ from ID not that long ago).


I haven't bothered to try and verify that in any way, nor do I have a convenient way to ask him how he knows that.

Just checked the Dishonesty Institute's website, and Dembski is listed as a member of its Board of Directors. No idea how long he's been holding that prestigious position.

He's just in it for the free lunch.

Probably the only place on the planet which would give him a paying job.

Do they have a cafeteria as nice as Baylor’s?

Yes, behind the broom cupboard where there are magic ponies and a broken clock. Dembski must be hoping that nobody notices whenever he gets paid for being on staff.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2018,09:25   

Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 20 2018,04:34)
To ear is human?

To fore skin divine.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2018,16:30   

Has anyone with a sock at UD wished the denizens a Merry Kitzmas?  It's the lucky 13th anniversary of Dover!

Judge Jones bless us, every one.

Edited by Patrick on Dec. 21 2018,10:21

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2018,16:56   

Most people only lose socks in their driers, but here...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2018,18:33   

Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 20 2018,16:30)
Has anyone with a sock at UD wished the denizens a Merry Kitzmas?  Its the lucky 13th anniversary of Dover!

Judge Jones bless us, every one.

We could ask Joe. He has an active sock. It’s covered in semen, but it is still active.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2018,14:26   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 20 2018,19:33)
Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 20 2018,16:30)
Has anyone with a sock at UD wished the denizens a Merry Kitzmas?  Its the lucky 13th anniversary of Dover!

Judge Jones bless us, every one.

We could ask Joe. He has an active sock. It’s covered in semen, but it is still active.

Just when I thought it was safe to read AtBC while eating lunch.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2018,15:20   

Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 21 2018,14:26)
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Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 20 2018,16:30)
Has anyone with a sock at UD wished the denizens a Merry Kitzmas?  Its the lucky 13th anniversary of Dover!

Judge Jones bless us, every one.

We could ask Joe. He has an active sock. It’s covered in semen, but it is still active.

Just when I thought it was safe to read AtBC while eating lunch.

Sorry, I should know better than to comment here after reading Joes comments.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2018,18:08   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 21 2018,13:20)
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Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 20 2018,16:30)
Has anyone with a sock at UD wished the denizens a Merry Kitzmas?  Its the lucky 13th anniversary of Dover!

Judge Jones bless us, every one.

We could ask Joe. He has an active sock. It’s covered in semen, but it is still active.

Just when I thought it was safe to read AtBC while eating lunch.

Sorry, I should know better than to comment here after reading Joes comments.

The heart tattoo on Joe's flabby chest has "Sock" written across it.

He had "Right Hand" lasered out.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2018,18:24   

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Our universe is such that math can provide accurate descriptions of the world because the universe was intelligently designed using mathematics.
I wonder what the diameter of that circular argument is. 🙂


linky

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2018,10:26   

circumference / pi ?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2018,11:51   

Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 23 2018,10:26)
circumference / pi ?

I preferred one of Joke’s other comments.
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I was actually looking forward to a possible learning moment. I am not perfect and I am far from infallible. And, given what I have learned about evolution by reading what evolutionary biologists have to say, clearly I am capable of learning points of view contrary to my own.

I don’t think even KF is gullible enough to believe this.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2018,21:38   

normally I run all kinds of ad blocking software, so I'm not sure if it's just because I'm using a new phone with a standard chrome browser at the moment, but have there always been a shit-ton of ads all over UD? Cause I'm seeing a shit-ton now. Big gnc one for instance that follows you down the page.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2018,09:35   

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normally I run all kinds of ad blocking software, so I'm not sure if it's just because I'm using a new phone with a standard chrome browser at the moment, but have there always been a shit-ton of ads all over UD? Cause I'm seeing a shit-ton now. Big gnc one for instance that follows you down the page.

Given that the ads are geared towards a person’s internet history, I would love to see what ads pop up for some of the UD geniuses. I envision ads for conspiracy theory sites for KF, discount police scanners for ambulance chasing Barry, and ads for gay leather bars for Joe.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2018,10:07   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 25 2018,10:35)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 24 2018,21:38)
normally I run all kinds of ad blocking software, so I'm not sure if it's just because I'm using a new phone with a standard chrome browser at the moment, but have there always been a shit-ton of ads all over UD? Cause I'm seeing a shit-ton now. Big gnc one for instance that follows you down the page.

Given that the ads are geared towards a person’s internet history, I would love to see what ads pop up for some of the UD geniuses. I envision ads for conspiracy theory sites for KF, discount police scanners for ambulance chasing Barry, and ads for gay leather bars for Joe.

Ads for skin whitening cream for KF.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2018,19:09   

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Over in the Platonic Realm thread, wjm asked me to no longer post because I didn’t accept his major premise. I said I would opt out, but I did make one more post in response to something kf said. wjm deleted my post, so I thought I’d put it over here, where it is somewhat relevant (as there has been a whole string of posts, of which this is one) on the same general set of points.

kf and I disagree about some things, but I think we agree about others. I’m certain that we agree that there is a knowable world apart from our conscious experience of it.

In response to wjm, kf wrote,
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… it is impossible to be in error that one is conscious. Experience is a major process of conscious existence. However, that does not compel one to the further view that experience and particularly perceptions and propositions cannot accurately relate to a physical, external world or to external persons, etc.


and I replied “I agree with you about this, kf”

I think that the world I am conscious of really exists, and that the process, whatever it is, by which information from the physical world enters my consciousness is reasonably reliable.

I just wanted this position saved, for the record, so I posted it here to preserve it.

And I see that wjm has relied to kf:
   
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I’ll accept that it is a bare possibility that by blind chance we might be making an accurate correlation to some actual external reality should it exist, but that chance is incalculable and absolutely blind and we would have absolutely no way of verifying it.
 
 
I’ll repeat something I wrote there: this seems like solipsism to me. There’s no way to prove that solipsism isn’t true, and that what we are experiencing consciously isn’t a complete illusion, but I can’t imagine how one could seriously live with such a view.


so WJM is a ginormous douche, is what you're saying.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2018,19:27   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 25 2018,19:09)
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hazelDecember 25, 2018 at 6:34 pm
Over in the Platonic Realm thread, wjm asked me to no longer post because I didn’t accept his major premise. I said I would opt out, but I did make one more post in response to something kf said. wjm deleted my post, so I thought I’d put it over here, where it is somewhat relevant (as there has been a whole string of posts, of which this is one) on the same general set of points.

kf and I disagree about some things, but I think we agree about others. I’m certain that we agree that there is a knowable world apart from our conscious experience of it.

In response to wjm, kf wrote,
Quote

… it is impossible to be in error that one is conscious. Experience is a major process of conscious existence. However, that does not compel one to the further view that experience and particularly perceptions and propositions cannot accurately relate to a physical, external world or to external persons, etc.


and I replied “I agree with you about this, kf”

I think that the world I am conscious of really exists, and that the process, whatever it is, by which information from the physical world enters my consciousness is reasonably reliable.

I just wanted this position saved, for the record, so I posted it here to preserve it.

And I see that wjm has relied to kf:
     
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I’ll accept that it is a bare possibility that by blind chance we might be making an accurate correlation to some actual external reality should it exist, but that chance is incalculable and absolutely blind and we would have absolutely no way of verifying it.
 
 
I’ll repeat something I wrote there: this seems like solipsism to me. There’s no way to prove that solipsism isn’t true, and that what we are experiencing consciously isn’t a complete illusion, but I can’t imagine how one could seriously live with such a view.


so WJM is a ginormous douche, is what you're saying.

Why do I think that WJM doesn’t extend his “we can’t know anything is real” to certain ancient religious texts?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2018,19:57   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Dec. 25 2018,20:27)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 25 2018,19:09)
 
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hazelDecember 25, 2018 at 6:34 pm
Over in the Platonic Realm thread, wjm asked me to no longer post because I didn’t accept his major premise. I said I would opt out, but I did make one more post in response to something kf said. wjm deleted my post, so I thought I’d put it over here, where it is somewhat relevant (as there has been a whole string of posts, of which this is one) on the same general set of points.

kf and I disagree about some things, but I think we agree about others. I’m certain that we agree that there is a knowable world apart from our conscious experience of it.

In response to wjm, kf wrote,
 
Quote

… it is impossible to be in error that one is conscious. Experience is a major process of conscious existence. However, that does not compel one to the further view that experience and particularly perceptions and propositions cannot accurately relate to a physical, external world or to external persons, etc.


and I replied “I agree with you about this, kf”

I think that the world I am conscious of really exists, and that the process, whatever it is, by which information from the physical world enters my consciousness is reasonably reliable.

I just wanted this position saved, for the record, so I posted it here to preserve it.

And I see that wjm has relied to kf:
       
Quote

I’ll accept that it is a bare possibility that by blind chance we might be making an accurate correlation to some actual external reality should it exist, but that chance is incalculable and absolutely blind and we would have absolutely no way of verifying it.
 
 
I’ll repeat something I wrote there: this seems like solipsism to me. There’s no way to prove that solipsism isn’t true, and that what we are experiencing consciously isn’t a complete illusion, but I can’t imagine how one could seriously live with such a view.


so WJM is a ginormous douche, is what you're saying.

Why do I think that WJM doesn’t extend his “we can’t know anything is real” to certain ancient religious texts?

Something tells me if you took him to the Pacific Northwest and tied him to a tree and coated him with bear steak sauce he'd suddenly discover that your pathetic materialistic beliefs do in fact correlate with reality.

Edited by stevestory on Dec. 25 2018,20:59

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2018,23:09   

Over on WJM’s recent OP
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2018,12:43   

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New UD format seems a bit crap but I appear to be able to vote comments up or down without logging in. Does it work for other avid readers?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2018,13:41   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 27 2018,12:43)
[quote=Acartia_Bogart,Dec. 26 2018,18:09]Over on WJM’s recent OP
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hazel says:
December 26, 2018 at 2:12 pm
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New UD format seems a bit crap but I appear to be able to vote comments up or down without logging in. Does it work for other avid readers?

Yeesh. That site format may be just the push I need to stay off the UD sauce permanently. For an outfit that purports to be all about design, you might have thought they'd have given some thought to user experience. Had I ever considered donating to UD (for the steady influx of O'Leary News, of course), the new layout would have changed my mind.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2018,17:59   

[quote=LarTanner,Dec. 28 2018,06:41]
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hazel says:
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December 26, 2018 at 3:11 pm
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New UD format seems a bit crap but I appear to be able to vote comments up or down without logging in. Does it work for other avid readers?

Yeesh. That site format may be just the push I need to stay off the UD sauce permanently. For an outfit that purports to be all about design, you might have thought they'd have given some thought to user experience. Had I ever considered donating to UD (for the steady influx of O'Leary News, of course), the new layout would have changed my mind.

On the plus side the new format limits visible comments to a few dozen words, with a 'Read more' link to expand each one. Saves a whole lot of scrolling to get past BS77's c&p entries.

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