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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:19   

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and stores significant amounts of water as hydroxyl groups


IOW OH's = H2O's


Your understanding of chemistry sucks as badly as your understanding of physics, and math, and evolutionary biology.

Whatever. All I know is that I know more about those topics than you do.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:19   

But the FACT remains I NEVER said that any molecule is not affected by gravity. And no one can demonstrate otherwise.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:20   

In kindergarten terms, for Timmy:

The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:20   

Maybe there is a molecular code to change hydroxyl groups into water

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:26   

Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,12:20)
In kindergarten terms, for Timmy:

The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

They still obey earth's gravity. It is just that the force exerted by buoyancy exceeds that of gravity. See, there is that "buoyancy" word again.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:30   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,12:20)
In kindergarten terms, for Timmy:

The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

They still obey earth's gravity. It is just that the force exerted by buoyancy exceeds that of gravity.

Exactly. The buoyancy allows it to disobey the calling of gravity.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:36   

Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,12:30)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 23 2019,12:26)
 
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,12:20)
In kindergarten terms, for Timmy:

The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

They still obey earth's gravity. It is just that the force exerted by buoyancy exceeds that of gravity.

Exactly. The buoyancy allows it to disobey the calling of gravity.

"disobey the calling of gravity"  :D    :D    :D

See Joke, that's why everyone knows you're such an ignorant clown.  You say stupid shit like that because you're so ignorant then squirm and jiggle like a fat fool to try and get your foot out of your mouth.

I must admit your ignorance and stupidity is one of the more entertaining things online.   :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,12:37   

Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,12:20)
Maybe there is a molecular code to change hydroxyl groups into water

It's called chemistry Joke.  Another one of things you're completely ignorant of.  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,13:44   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2019,12:36)
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,12:30)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 23 2019,12:26)
 
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,12:20)
In kindergarten terms, for Timmy:

The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

They still obey earth's gravity. It is just that the force exerted by buoyancy exceeds that of gravity.

Exactly. The buoyancy allows it to disobey the calling of gravity.

"disobey the calling of gravity"

Yes, dumbass- I am using words your little mind could understand. But clearly it is still over your pointy little head

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,13:45   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2019,12:37)
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Maybe there is a molecular code to change hydroxyl groups into water

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
             

It's called chemistry Joke.  

And yet acartia thinks there is a molecular code that transforms water into ice...

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,14:31   

Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2019,13:51)
ID is such a failed dumpster fire. The Young Earth Creationists already have six research papers out in 2019.

ID has diddly-shit. Some halfwits posting on a blog about the shroud of Turin and shit. Calling ID creationism may technically be true but it's an insult to the honest and productive creationists.  :p  :p  :p

And STILL NOTHING for blind watchmaker evolution.

You assholes don't even know how to test the claims your position makes.

How pathetic is that?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,15:05   

Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,15:10   

Quote (keiths @ April 23 2019,15:05)
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

LoL! Only if those satellites achieved their orbital status just by floating into position.

Otherwise you are humping another strawman. But at your age and level of senility, is what you have.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,15:12   

keiths once boasted that unguided evolution was billions of times more likely (or some bullshit) than ID at explaining the diversity of life.

And yet he never has presented any science to support that claim.

Why is that, keiths?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,16:17   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

Don't forget Joke's other claim the lighter an object is the more it disobeys the law of universal gravitation.  I guess Joke never saw this video.

No one has ever lost money betting against Joke Gallien's ignorance and stupidity.  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,16:28   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2019,17:17)
Quote (keiths @ April 23 2019,15:05)
       
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

Don't forget Joke's other claim the lighter an object is the more it disobeys the law of universal gravitation.  I guess Joke never saw this video.

No one has ever lost money betting against Joke Gallien's ignorance and stupidity.  :D

None of us have to be here though, we could just pay a high school kid to explain a force diagram with weight, friction, and buoyancy arrows to him.

The kid can't charge by the hour though, or we'll go broke.  :D  :p  :)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,16:32   

Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2019,14:28)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2019,17:17)
Quote (keiths @ April 23 2019,15:05)
         
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

Don't forget Joke's other claim the lighter an object is the more it disobeys the law of universal gravitation.  I guess Joke never saw this video.

No one has ever lost money betting against Joke Gallien's ignorance and stupidity.  :D

None of us have to be here though, we could just pay a high school kid to explain a force diagram with weight, friction, and buoyancy arrows to him.

The kid can't charge by the hour though, or we'll go broke.  :D  :p  :)

I'd feel morally obligated to pay for the poor kid's therapy and/or rehab.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,16:33   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2019,16:17)
Quote (keiths @ April 23 2019,15:05)
       
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

Don't forget Joke's other claim the lighter an object is the more it disobeys the law of universal gravitation.  I guess Joke never saw this video.

Don't forget that you are the Joke and a coward who is too afraid to make a case

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,16:34   

Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2019,16:28)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 23 2019,17:17)
Quote (keiths @ April 23 2019,15:05)
         
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

Don't forget Joke's other claim the lighter an object is the more it disobeys the law of universal gravitation.  I guess Joke never saw this video.

No one has ever lost money betting against Joke Gallien's ignorance and stupidity.  :D

None of us have to be here though, we could just pay a high school kid to explain a force diagram with weight, friction, and buoyancy arrows to him.

The kid can't charge by the hour though, or we'll go broke.  :D  :p  :)

You aren't here, mentally. You are still too chickenshit to actually make a case

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,16:35   

Quote (JohnW @ April 23 2019,16:32)
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Quote (keiths @ April 23 2019,15:05)
         
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,10:04)
The Earth's gravity says to all of mass, "come here".

But there are those of mass that do not obey the Earth's gravity and instead wander AWAY from it.

Heh.  According to JoePhysics, satellites disobey the law of universal gravitation.  'Cuz the earth says "come here", and those bratty satellites just keep going.

Don't forget Joke's other claim the lighter an object is the more it disobeys the law of universal gravitation.  I guess Joke never saw this video.

No one has ever lost money betting against Joke Gallien's ignorance and stupidity.  :D

None of us have to be here though, we could just pay a high school kid to explain a force diagram with weight, friction, and buoyancy arrows to him.

The kid can't charge by the hour though, or we'll go broke.  :D  :p  :)

I'd feel morally obligated to pay for the poor kid's therapy and/or rehab.

You can use all the money you saved on your lack of education.

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,16:50   

Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,17:11   

Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,16:50)
Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Keep humping that strawman, you desperate coward.


What is the surface tension of fog? And why fog and not just any cloud?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,17:21   

Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,16:50)
Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Here's another reminder of Joke's ignorance:  a video of how water behaves in zero G on board the ISS

Water at Zero G

Oops!  No water flowing downhill.  Looks like Joke was wrong again.   :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,17:35   

Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,17:11)
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,16:50)
Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Keep humping that strawman, you desperate coward.


What is the surface tension of fog? And why fog and not just any cloud?

Joe, learn what a strawman is.  Hint: it isn’t using facts and logic to tear your claims into teeny tiny little bits that float in the air.

I didn’t bring up clouds because you would have tried to claim they also contain ice crystals, and that would wind you up on your stupid definition of water again.  But you can’t weasel out of fog being water.

The surface tension could be determined for each drop, but it depends on lots of things, and what it is isn’t really relevant to you being dead wrong about flowing downhill as a way to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.   Attempted evasion duly noted, though.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,18:55   

Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,18:35)
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Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Keep humping that strawman, you desperate coward.


What is the surface tension of fog? And why fog and not just any cloud?

Joe, learn what a strawman is.  Hint: it isn’t using facts and logic to tear your claims into teeny tiny little bits that float in the air.

I didn’t bring up clouds because you would have tried to claim they also contain ice crystals, and that would wind you up on your stupid definition of water again.  But you can’t weasel out of fog being water.

The surface tension could be determined for each drop, but it depends on lots of things, and what it is isn’t really relevant to you being dead wrong about flowing downhill as a way to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.   Attempted evasion duly noted, though.

I do not miss surface tension, either calculating it or measuring it. Back when the physics research I did involved using a goniometer to measure the angle a water droplet made on the polymer surfaces I was spin-casting, which let you use the Young-Dupree equation to figure out roughly what the surface free energy was, I was doing some background reading and I came across the classic Chowdhury & Whitesides paper "How to Make Water Run Uphill". Amusing little paper.

I've got a publication in Langmuir or Macromolecules or one of those journals from that stuff, but I left that lab within a year for a biophysics lab which was more interesting.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,20:02   

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Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,16:50)
Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Keep humping that strawman, you desperate coward.


What is the surface tension of fog? And why fog and not just any cloud?

Joe, learn what a strawman is.  Hint: it isn’t using facts and logic to tear your claims into teeny tiny little bits that float in the air.

I didn’t bring up clouds because you would have tried to claim they also contain ice crystals, and that would wind you up on your stupid definition of water again.  But you can’t weasel out of fog being water.

The surface tension could be determined for each drop, but it depends on lots of things, and what it is isn’t really relevant to you being dead wrong about flowing downhill as a way to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.   Attempted evasion duly noted, though.

I do not miss surface tension, either calculating it or measuring it. Back when the physics research I did involved using a goniometer to measure the angle a water droplet made on the polymer surfaces I was spin-casting, which let you use the Young-Dupree equation to figure out roughly what the surface free energy was, I was doing some background reading and I came across the classic Chowdhury & Whitesides paper "How to Make Water Run Uphill". Amusing little paper.

I've got a publication in Langmuir or Macromolecules or one of those journals from that stuff, but I left that lab within a year for a biophysics lab which was more interesting.

Yabbut Joe still noes more'n you.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,20:36   

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Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Keep humping that strawman, you desperate coward.


What is the surface tension of fog? And why fog and not just any cloud?

Joe, learn what a strawman is.  Hint: it isn’t using facts and logic to tear your claims into teeny tiny little bits that float in the air.

I didn’t bring up clouds because you would have tried to claim they also contain ice crystals, and that would wind you up on your stupid definition of water again.  But you can’t weasel out of fog being water.

The surface tension could be determined for each drop, but it depends on lots of things, and what it is isn’t really relevant to you being dead wrong about flowing downhill as a way to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.   Attempted evasion duly noted, though.

I do not miss surface tension, either calculating it or measuring it. Back when the physics research I did involved using a goniometer to measure the angle a water droplet made on the polymer surfaces I was spin-casting, which let you use the Young-Dupree equation to figure out roughly what the surface free energy was, I was doing some background reading and I came across the classic Chowdhury & Whitesides paper "How to Make Water Run Uphill". Amusing little paper.

I've got a publication in Langmuir or Macromolecules or one of those journals from that stuff, but I left that lab within a year for a biophysics lab which was more interesting.

Steve, maybe you know why NASA doesn't use molecules which disobey the law of gravity in the space program.  Joe wouldn't answer.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,20:44   

Quote (JohnW @ April 23 2019,18:36)
Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2019,16:55)
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,18:35)
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,17:11)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,16:50)
Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Keep humping that strawman, you desperate coward.


What is the surface tension of fog? And why fog and not just any cloud?

Joe, learn what a strawman is.  Hint: it isn’t using facts and logic to tear your claims into teeny tiny little bits that float in the air.

I didn’t bring up clouds because you would have tried to claim they also contain ice crystals, and that would wind you up on your stupid definition of water again.  But you can’t weasel out of fog being water.

The surface tension could be determined for each drop, but it depends on lots of things, and what it is isn’t really relevant to you being dead wrong about flowing downhill as a way to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.   Attempted evasion duly noted, though.

I do not miss surface tension, either calculating it or measuring it. Back when the physics research I did involved using a goniometer to measure the angle a water droplet made on the polymer surfaces I was spin-casting, which let you use the Young-Dupree equation to figure out roughly what the surface free energy was, I was doing some background reading and I came across the classic Chowdhury & Whitesides paper "How to Make Water Run Uphill". Amusing little paper.

I've got a publication in Langmuir or Macromolecules or one of those journals from that stuff, but I left that lab within a year for a biophysics lab which was more interesting.

Steve, maybe you know why NASA doesn't use molecules which disobey the law of gravity in the space program.  Joe wouldn't answer.

Joe probably thinks that "goniometer" is the name for that thing he uses to measure his harbles.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,20:58   

Quote (keiths @ April 23 2019,20:44)
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Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2019,16:55)
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,18:35)
Quote (Joe G @ April 23 2019,17:11)
   
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 23 2019,16:50)
Joe has now filled page after page of his claim that water (by which he means only the liquid phase) obeys gravity because it flows downhill. He uses this effect to claim that a single water molecule is different and “doesn’t obey gravity”.  There are so many things wrong with his argument that we could go on laughing forever.

But here’s one more hilarious dimension to that claim that is wrong.  Joe claim that water flows downhill and thus obeys gravity.  He has, however, forgotten fog.  Fog is a colloid.  It is made up of small drops of liquid water (what Joe insists is the only thing properly called water).  The drops are small enough that they will not settle out of the air when left standing.  They are water (by Joe’s quixotic definition) that doesn’t flow downhill.  Thus, by Joe’s definition, not all water obeys gravity, and that behavior cannot be used to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.  QED

Keep humping that strawman, you desperate coward.


What is the surface tension of fog? And why fog and not just any cloud?

Joe, learn what a strawman is.  Hint: it isn’t using facts and logic to tear your claims into teeny tiny little bits that float in the air.

I didn’t bring up clouds because you would have tried to claim they also contain ice crystals, and that would wind you up on your stupid definition of water again.  But you can’t weasel out of fog being water.

The surface tension could be determined for each drop, but it depends on lots of things, and what it is isn’t really relevant to you being dead wrong about flowing downhill as a way to distinguish liquid water from a single molecule.   Attempted evasion duly noted, though.

I do not miss surface tension, either calculating it or measuring it. Back when the physics research I did involved using a goniometer to measure the angle a water droplet made on the polymer surfaces I was spin-casting, which let you use the Young-Dupree equation to figure out roughly what the surface free energy was, I was doing some background reading and I came across the classic Chowdhury & Whitesides paper "How to Make Water Run Uphill". Amusing little paper.

I've got a publication in Langmuir or Macromolecules or one of those journals from that stuff, but I left that lab within a year for a biophysics lab which was more interesting.

Steve, maybe you know why NASA doesn't use molecules which disobey the law of gravity in the space program.  Joe wouldn't answer.

Joe probably thinks that "goniometer" is the name for that thing he uses to measure his harbles.

My father told me that he and his classmates in the physical therapy program called them gonadometers.  He was nice enough to score me a whole pile of them at conventions to use while teaching vectors.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2019,21:26   

Quote (stevestory @ April 23 2019,17:55)
[...] I was doing some background reading and I came across the classic Chowdhury & Whitesides paper "How to Make Water Run Uphill". Amusing little paper.

Water that thinks it's super-cooled helium?

  
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