Joined: Dec. 2007
Speaking of liars, Barry tells a whopper in the How do you know an AI advocate is shining you on? thread:
Barry, third sentence in the OP: "As I have discussed before, we cannot in principle “know” that even other humans are conscious; far less can we know that an AI is conscious."
Barry in Reply 4: " Ed said that I said: “After all, you have already admitted that we can’t say with certainty that other humans aren’t conscious (or that they are conscious).”
What I actually said: “We infer others’ consciousness to a very high degree of certainty. We are indeed, “morally certain” that other people are not mere meat machines.”
This makes Ed a liar. Ed, what I said is right up there for everyone to see. If you are going to tell lies, at least don’t insult our intelligence when you are doing it."
Me: Barry, you're a liar. You're also a slanderer for calling Ed a liar. (Psalm 101:5)
To Ed George: Why do you put up with this shit?
Also to Ed George: I suggest you ask Barry WHO says some AI is concious? And WHICH AI is conscious? Also, remind him that the engine in his car is a metal based machine and nobody suggests that it's conscious. Why does this surprise him?
P.S. In the OP, the words "discussed before" are a link to another article by Barry, "We Cannot, In Principle, “Know” Whether A Machine Is Conscious".
P.P.S. Now that Behe has shown the way, I think we'll be seeing lots more bald-faced lies on UD.