Joined: Oct. 2009
Oh hey, did you know that if you close a Word file without saving it, you can still get it back? Found that out today looking for a piece of business, and realized that since I draft htmlified comments in Word I could call up the exact comment that Barry called a "vicious mean-spirited Christmas morning attack."
Pretty standard stuff. Barry shouts "idiot," "liar," and "hypocrite," then accuses the person he's abusing of not being civil. In this case, to credibly put himself on a moral high horse he had to delete my comment and lie about it. "Vicious mean-spirited Christmas morning attack" scores no points: it wasn't vicious, wasn't mean-spirited, wasn't an attack, and wasn't even on Christmas morning (not that the last one matters). But who needs to be honest about, or kind to, someone who disagrees with you? Apparently not Christians. Remember, by their fruits will you recognize them.
<i>You are the most hyper-partisan person who comments regularly on this blog. </i>
Am I? Can you give examples? Or is this just a belief you have to adopt to justify a personal insult?
<i>Thanks for clearing up that it is OK to depict innocent children as monkeys on a string in a political attack piece as long as it is not a racist trope. Idiot.</i>
What I actually said was, “there’s no reason to drag kids into that partisan battle, even if her intention was to criticize Cruz for politicizing them.” But if you were to respond to what I wrote, it would be harder for you to justify saying “idiot.” And what sort of conversation would it be if you weren’t spitting “liar” and “idiot” and “hypocrite” at people? People would think you were getting soft! Maybe even treating people like beloved neighbors instead of hated enemies. What would become of Uncommon Descent then?
<blockquote><i>But if someone draped traditionally Mexican images on the Cruzes, I would definitely be upset.</blockquote>
Liar. You would find some way to justify that too.</i>
No, I would find it racist and upsetting. But to believe that, you’d have to believe that I’m not a racist. Can you find it in your heart to believe that I’m not a liar, an idiot, a hypocrite, <i>and</i> a racist all at once? Can Christian charity bend so far?
<i><blockquote>Here, the cartoonist explains that she meant that Cruz uses his children as props. Which he does, although I don’t think any more obnoxiously than many politicians.</blockquote>
Yes, politicians use their families as props. And up until now it never occurred to anyone that made them fair targets for vicious political attacks. And up until now no one would have defended such viciousness. <i>
That’s not true, and it’s pretty obviously not true. <a href=”http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/06/16/beck-and-limbaugh-join-forces-to-mock-little-gi/166287”>Limbaugh</a>, for example, called Chelsea the “white house dog” and Beck insulted Obama’s daughter’s intelligence. If I made a statement that was so obviously false, how long would it take you to pound LIAR into the response box? I forgive you, your comment was a harmless overstatement that no one believed.
<i>But since the attacks are against an awful conservative they are OK. So much for not letting your politics define your beliefs.</i>
Did I say that attacks on a conservative are OK? Not in the words you quote, which have nothing to do with whether the cartoonist was right to use his kids. I wrote that the cartoonist wasn’t making a racial attack on Cruz, and that nevertheless “there’s no reason to drag kids into that partisan battle.” But I forgive you.
<i>Who cares if it is a commentary on their race?</i>
News and KF, who commented at length above. Since your comment compared this cartoon to drawing Obama’s kids as monkeys, which would be a much more racially-charged cartoon, I assumed you shared their concern.
<i>Insult me and then wish me a merry Christmas. Hypocrite.</i>
I can both have a low opinion of you and wish you a merry Christmas, with perfect sincerity. Can you not do the same? Merry Christmas, Barry! And News and KF and Zachriel and Mung and GUN and keiths and Joe G and Lizzie and all the rest—merry Christmas, and happy holidays!